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The post was not "for" you. I had quoted your post in reply to app_engine saying that UO had more recognition and appreciation than NK in general (you had said just the opposite in your reply as to why you hadnt talked about NK) :)
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Originally Posted by vel
Did you watch that kandraavi movie on a DVD? Amazing songs gone utter waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Hello,
First let us congratulate A.R.Rahman for his twin oscar's.
Regarding NK song "Amma un pillai Nan" and "Kannil" , both the songs are extra ordinary which penetrates our brain squeezing the agony of beggars world wide , the songs doesn't need any movie picturisation to support. IR captivated the human minds by his skill with the contemporary keyboard usuage but still mesmerising. The song "Amma un pillai Nan" resembles the pain and cry of indian women's when their beloved are dead or taken away.
Only drawback in the song is the sadhana sargam's sweetness in her voice which is inherent , but she justified for being selected to sing the song.
Otherwise the song is universal for all language and no other song deserve to compare with it.
I am confident IR is getting his "master blaster" form again.
Let us wish him all the best.
Indeed, while it's awesome to see ARR win it, it is kinda sad that Ilayaraja did not get this kind of global recognition he truly deserved. Wish he had released his "Royal philharmonic symphony"!
What's even more astonishing is that our Indian govt did not bestow with him with even a PadmaSri.
Guess these days talent alone is not sufficient. You need the PR
teja - there is no point in either you or me feeling sad abt IR not getting any recognition - that man himself should feel it, which I sincerely doubt is happening at all!
just wait and watch - some Rajkiran-like composer will approach him for a 'rural' film and IR will simply do a rustic score with a small ensemble of violins - and people like you and me will marvel at the counterpoints et al, the movie will never get released or will be a C-grade output
at this rate, recognition or not, IR should just stop doing movies, and focus ONLY on non-film albums - if he doesnt do it now, its never for him - n he simply retire for good
irir123 hit it straight !
I am so sad today that a genius here is yet to be recognized :( :(
All because not lack of stuff, but lack of
1. Fruitful associations.
2. marketing himself in a modern way instead of roaming like a Sanyasi.
3. Attitude to get along with people who would have taken him to Mumbai in a big way. Whether we like it or not, Mumbai is the gateway of India as it has been proved today.
Ok...anyways..Oscar is great..but it is not a stamp for genius..Take the example of Thyagaraja. He is greatest regardless of how many people know about him !
A gem is a gem wherever it stays even hidden :)
But dont you think at a time like this, the indian kind of music particularly songs in movies are getting popular in the west should ilayaraja stop doing movies? :o or try some more time?Quote:
Originally Posted by irir123
Jus kidding. He shd have done that atleast a decade back. I am today feeling so bad as a raaja fan. its inevitable... the comparisons will come now...
wat he cud have achieved as a composer of non film albums, if had he chosen to starting from the royal philharmonic symphony is anybody's imagination... by this time he wud not have won any oscar but wud have definitely ranked along with all time great composers!!!
Let's face reality. This poor guy is not even being recognized by his own countrymen, including the Indian government not bestowing any civilian awards. This is the truth, his numerous mind blowing scores were for sori dappa movies; of-late, his score in Guru was simply mind blowing and outstanding and yet no one knows about it; his Tiruvasagam deserved a Grammy nomination to say the least and yet it was a royal screw up;the list goes on. This poor dude had all it takes to win every possible award. He totally lost it ….
I think the only guy whose metaphor like comparison that is shockingly coming true is Kamal's. "Bharathi madhiri kitta thatta talent". Poor souls the former never crossed the boundaries of Chennai and latter was a little better, but never crossed Guduvancheri.
The only hope is for a guy like Balki to market him to the right level. Hopefully as a staunch IR fan he does something.
AR Rahman speech
"God gave me a choice of love and hate, I chose love thats why I am here."
hate, jealousy, cheating never gets a man the fame even if he stands upside down. you know to whom the reference go to.
Rahman made it because he didn't have any above said virtue and learned to appreciate other MD without any ego.
Dude I have no idea what you trying to say here. IR is one of the biggest open mouthed MD, who appreciates true genius talent - be it C.Ramachandra, SDB, Roshan, Salil, MSV. So stop the rubbish whatever you are trying to startQuote:
Originally Posted by Vysar