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Dear Raghu,Quote:
Originally Posted by Raghu
My reference is from Vysar Virundhu . Also from the great Dr. Mazoom Razaa ...
Also, there is a posting from Mr. HariKrishnan in Ramayanam thread on this...
Pl go through that as well as he had done a very beautiful analysis and also has given a note on WHAT CARE THE TEACHERS TOOK TO TEACH THE ASTRAS TO THEIR PUPILS...
Nice one from Mr. HariKrishnan..
Dear Raghu,
Besides, I suggest you read the writings of CHO in Thuglag on Maharabaratham pesugiradhu… Wonderful analysis and presentation from CHO…
He had also mentioned about Ashwathama having used Bramasiras…
Balaji
Ashwatama will invoke the grass using the brahma siras mantra saying "Wipe out the Pandavas from the face of the earth".Arjuna will countyer it.Narada will get afraid about the destruction that these two could cause and will ask them to withdraw it.Arjuna will be able to withdraw it but Ashwatama due to his sin of butchering the sons of Draupadi will forget the mantra.I think the mantra will kill Parikshit's foetus which will later be brought back to life by Lord Krishna.
Seems Ashwatama was so beautiful and radiant before the war.he is considered as an amsa of Lord Shiva.But,when he kills the sons of draupadi in the night, all his tejas will be gone and he'll look horrible and old and will hide in ashrama of sage Vyasa.
Viggop,
I have just few points to share on your previous posting.
Aswathama was not taught by his father Drona on how to withdraw this astra. So he could not withdraw. Besides, he directed the course to another route…( He did not forget as he was not taught at all on this aspect ). It has no relation to Aswathama killing the sons of Draupadhi , I think.
I doubt whether the astra killed the foetus. Actually before it could cause damage, Krishna’s divine power saved it.
The reason for Aswatham hiding in Vyasar’s hermitage is not because of his personality undergoing a change but for fear of the Pandavas chasing him…
Just one small digression, IMO , except in the case of Satyavan , there was no case where a dead man or woman was given life again….( the foetus of Parikshit inclusive )
Even Markandeyar was saved by Lord Shiva when Yama tried to pull him along with Shivalinga in the famous shrine.. Thirukkadayur….
There were several instances of Adi Shankara and Thirunavukarasar saving the lives of several but even those were actually restored from virtual death stage and not actual death..
Sorry for this digression… Back to Mahabaratha….
really, i did not know that! :roll: :shock: :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
correctQuote:
Originally Posted by S.Balaji
Another interesting aspect of Mahabaratha war was… the anticipated Mother of all battles between Karna and Arjuna…
Krishna knew very well in advance that Karna’s only target is Arjuna and he will spare others… Krishna also knew that Karna had 2 strong weapons :
1. Sarpamugastra
2. Vajrayudha of Indira ( which Karna got it as a quid pro quo when he sacrificed his kavacha and kuntala )
Krishna started worrying about this 2 elements when Karna joined the war after Bheeshma fell…
Krishna was worried on when Karna will be using the Vajrayudha on Arjuna and will be looking for ways and means to nullify it…
Ultimately he will use Katotkacha , the son of Bheema … who will create major havoc to Gauravas in night warfare…There will be a scenario when the Kauravas will be so frustrated with Katotkacha ( he was basically an asura ) that Duryodhana will push Karna heavily to use Vajrayudha and kill him… Else the Kauvara army will be reduced to bare minimum…
Karna will reluctantly use the Sakthi weapon of Indira and this will kill poor Katotkacha…
By adopting this ploy, Krishna will successfully save Arjuna….while Karna will be repenting for the lost opportunity….
The moral ultimately is.... to gain something in life.... one has to lose something........
Poor Pandavas, eventhough they got their kingdom, none of their children existed ( due to Aswathama killing the entire sons of Draupadhi and Abimanyu and Katotkacha also dieing in the war )
Balaji
Thirugnanasampandhar will bring a dead girl back to life in Mylapore .:-)
Manmathan will be brought to life after being burnt to death.
Mahabhartah war is a phyrric victory for the Pandavas.That is why Gandhari will curse Krishna.She'll accuse him saying that he could have easily stopped the war if he had wished.She'll curse that the entire Yadava race will also perish.Krishna will accept Gandhari's curse saying that it'll solve the problem of how to get rid of his race!!!
Correct.. Gandhari will curse Krishna as in her opinion, she felt that Krishna, if he had wanted, could have easily averted the war..Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
Instead, Krishna played a lead role in eliminating all the rivals.. by wicked means…probably to restore Dharma….but Gandhari was not reconciled and hence the curse came out of her….
After the war … the pandavas will seek the blessings of Dhirudhirashtra and Gandhari… every one will fear to go near Gandhari… after all she had lost her entire 100 children…a sorrowing mother…
However, she will be composed and will bless all the pandavas…
She will pose only one question to them….
ITS TRUE… MY SON WAS A SINNER AND HE TRIED TO DISROBE DRAUPADHI AND DID SO MANY BAD THINGS TO YOU ALL AND HE DESERVES TO BE KILLED.
But the way he was beaten is not convincing to me….. as this event had happened before Krishna and Yudhistra…
She was referring to the incident when Bhima breaks the thighs of Duryodhana ( which is totally against war rules )
However, Bhima will try to comfort her by saying….
MOTHER, WE ALL KNOW THAT YOUR SON DURYODHANA CAN NEVER BE BEATEN IN MACE FIGHTING. I WAS FORCED TO USE THIS PLOY AS I HAD NO OTHER OPTION…PLEASE PARDON ME FOR THIS…
Immediately Gandhari will forgive Bhima and will bless him as well..
Gandhari’s eye rays are so powerful… While blessing Yudhistira, she will turn her eyes to another direction… even by doing that also… a portion of eye will see the foot of Yudhistira and it is said that immediately his foot will turn dark…..
So powerful was her eyes…..
Also, one of the reasons for Krishna not averting the war was….. It is believed that at that stage, the world was over populated and Bhoomadevi came pleading to the Lord saying that … I AM UNABLE TO BEAR THIS HEAVY LOAD OF OVER POPULATION. PLEASE HELP ME.
The Lord found the best way to reduce the overpopulation…. MASS DESTRUCTION …. THROUGH A WAR…. SO THAT ONE ENTIRE RACE WILL VANISH…
NEW WORLD… NEW GENERATION WILL EMERGE….
This is one of the reasons for Krishna not averting the war…..
Infact , Krishna will mention this fact to one Rishi after the war….who like Gandhari was about to curse Krishna and at that time , Krishna will reveal the reason.. He will also show his Vishwaroopa Dharshan to that Rishi….