Maestro Ilaiyaraja New Albums 2011 - Hello Jaihind / Sri Rama Rajyam

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Originally Posted by rajaalltheway

Todays Malayala Manorama carries a statement issued by Ayya on Pazhassi Raja lyrics controversy.Ayya says he never said anything against ONV and he is nothing before the great poet.He further adds that when Hariharan narrated the song situation he had a particular idea on the shaping up of the song.When he got the lyrics he had to keep it aside and come with a new one which became "Aadhi usha sandhya".Manorama is gutter press personified.After Paa music got released there was a lengthy article in the lines of "how dare Ilaiyaraaja criticize when he can only rehash his old tunes for a movie starring amitabh himself".It was their reports that lead usually very silent people like Ouseppachan and Hariharan declare war on Ayya

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Nalla vishayam. Andha aRikkaila yaarum kuttaya kuzhappaama irundhaa seri!

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Originally Posted by irir123

i didnt want to post this, but cudnt resist after the repeated harking abt social and cultural relevance without substantiating the same with real examples

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How about you widening your knowledge about Folk music of south India and then getting to know that these jinkchaks, jamchaks, dingdongs, damaku dams and numerous other catch phrases employed by Raaja in various songs are from the vocabulary of the common folks of Rural India?!!

How do I substantiate this with real examples? It was there, It is there and It will be there in common mans Vocabulary. I've seen and heard people singing without words using only jingsa jingsa while separating rice and husk with Ural+Ualkkai or chamchak, jinguchaks, in multiple Rural Festivals. Infact I've never heard 'Ailelo' or 'Ailesaa' in real life which are distinct sounds to seashore folks. I've heard them only through cinema songs. Had I been a blinded Cat, I would've dismissed them as some alien sounds which Raaja (or any other composer) has conjured up himself.

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Originally Posted by irir123

felt odd/disgusted by IR's use of such nonsense! have u listened to 'ku ku ku kokila raave' from sitara (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GoZuUdh-cQ) ? such a beautiful tune (complete in its pallavi and charanam et al) is totally spoilt by the 'pee pee' (again!) in the second interlude! i simply dont see any connection between the quality of the sublime tune and this anything-but-sublime nonsense!

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Again! you heard only the 'pee pee' not the accompanying 'dam dam' both sounds accentuating each other because an artist was trying to experiment instrumental sounds with human voices as does young children. ( My own childhood personal experience relates to these 'pee peeeeii' and 'dam dams' or 'tataaataaans' being played without instruments with our own mouths when playing games or even the 'darrr' 'uzzz' sound of bikes and scooters were created with our own mouths during some other games.) If 'Vamsi' the director of the movie wanted to emulate such a scene with 'kiddishness' thrown in this situation what is there for us to bother?

Listening to Vamsi/Raaja combo is always a delight since these two crossed the limits in their artistic ways of exploring into film making and music making. both were made for each other and had sheer fun in breaking the norms of then film/music making style. The music from these mens films are replete with such incorrigible human voices adding them on to music and layering them in their stupidest form, Questioning every authority about what is music and what is not? Madmen they are, filled with such nonsense, Experimentation at its height. It is only possible to get engulfed into this madness or get away from them to live in sanity. I want to be MAD!

Vamsi/Raaja Combo :

Sitara
April 1st Vidhuthala
Anveshana
Maharshi
Preminchu Pelladu
Chettukinda Pleader
Sri Kanaka Mahalaxmi Recording Dance Troupe
Aalapana
Ladies Tailor
Anumanaspadam

Madmen at Work :lol: After posting the above I've put all the songs from these films and playing @ shuffle mode. ...tha Sheer fun & Hilarious - the way they have pushed the limits of music language. :rotfl3: Raaja needs someone like this now to motivate him :|

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Originally Posted by K

one help Sir KSMS Song theriyum, Poraada daa from Alaiosai? unga kitta iruntha pls share. Thank u.

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Here
http://www.mediafire.com/?tjamwyfdx4v

When Charu criticize abt Raaja no body should discuss on that, but when Kumudam writes charu is a joker on his comments on Raaja , he will do monky dance and cry that how can he write that , if he write he will not work in kumudam like that… what a zero man…

RS, you forgot Detective Narada in that Vamsi-IR combo. Good songs!

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Originally Posted by rajaalltheway

Todays Malayala Manorama carries a statement issued by Ayya on Pazhassi Raja lyrics controversy.Ayya says he never said anything against ONV and he is nothing before the great poet.He further adds that when Hariharan narrated the song situation he had a particular idea on the shaping up of the song.When he got the lyrics he had to keep it aside and come with a new one which became "Aadhi usha sandhya".Manorama is gutter press personified.After Paa music got released there was a lengthy article in the lines of "how dare Ilaiyaraaja criticize when he can only rehash his old tunes for a movie starring amitabh himself".It was their reports that lead usually very silent people like Ouseppachan and Hariharan declare war on Ayya

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It was obvious from the way he spoke on the function that he was not criticising Ouseppachan but rather speaking on how he felt should have been tuned. Enna seivethu if thalaivar uses a single odd-sounding word , they would immediately create a 2-page article sound like 2012 has arrived.

As everybody had a 'final' comment on Charu, let me have one too. :D

Even though I haven't said anything wrong about Ilaiyaraaja (which I would never say) or anything good about Charu, the regulars here were on to me quickly. No surprises there. :D

In an argument, you say something... the other one says something... you say another thing.. the situation heats up... then an unwanted thing is said in a angry state of mind. It is always the case, unless one withdraws mid way.

Charu's dislike for Ilaiyaraaja is nothing new. He is saying uncharitable things about him for years now. If Ilaiyaraaja's fans have not responded to those comments at the initial stage, Charu may have stopped writing about Ilaiyaraaja (I am only guessing here :) ). To my mind, now it's more of Charu vs Fans of Ilaiyaraaja than Charu vs Ilaiyaraaja.

About this jinkchaks, jamchaks stuff.......

I live very near to Ilaiyaraaja's native place. I have not heard anything like that in these parts.

There are two possibilities I may guess. Folk songs may have been sung with words like that in his younger days. There are not that many who sings folk songs here these days. Second, he may have got it from other parts of TN. We all know he travelled all over TN in his younger days.

even in PR's 'ambum kombum' the tribals ye chorus sounds very funny and creates an upbeat mood. if asali pisili kathakali (aadhavan) is meaningful and appealing for this generation...why should we cry over jinkchaks, jamchaks, dingdongs, damaku dams