Some of them alternate between supporting role and comedy. MRRV, Sachu, VKR all fall into this category. So, Sachu is not a valid candidate here. Plus as Joe said, she started out as Heroine....
....which brings us to TR Ramachandran :P
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Some of them alternate between supporting role and comedy. MRRV, Sachu, VKR all fall into this category. So, Sachu is not a valid candidate here. Plus as Joe said, she started out as Heroine....
....which brings us to TR Ramachandran :P
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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
NOV :yessir:
Things getting complicated. Deadlock aayidichu so nomination format maathanum.
Saralakkum Chokkum example of humour quotes pannittanga. Idhu varaikkum specific quotes on nagaichuvai illadadhu Thangavelu dhaan - ellorum avar sirikka veipar, sirikka veipparnu solraanga, example dhaan vara mattengudhu.
Sachu? If we consider Sachu, then we'll have to consider TR Ramachandran and he has a bigger claim. Sachu has never been funny as far as I know but avanga mokkai pottadhu yaaravadhu quote panna mudiyuma? Indha vishayathula, Sarala's mokkai in 100's of films is legendary. IMO, Sarala has a bigger claim than Sachu - Sachu is mediocre(vandhu pogara sathame theriyadhu), Sarala has a special record in being in the limelight for unfunny.
(mis) using the powers bestowed upon me by HUB constitution, keep Sarala in the list :-)
(Besides, pengalukku sama urimaiyil enakku romba nambikkai. 50% ilalttalum, 10%-avadhu reservation kodukkanum and Sarala fits the bill ahead of sachu).
Nobody has really dissed Balaiah so he is out. Thangavelu vs Chandrababu vs Cho.
Cho-kkum quote pottutaru anja singam prabhuram.
Thangavelu? IMO, for being constantly in the limelight since the beginning of this thread , avarai list-la serthu dhaan aaganum. But enna dhaan naan Naresh Gupta-nalum, NOV dhaan Sonia Gandhi - avaru manasu vecha dhaan add panna mudiyum.
Theerpu - it has to be Sarala for sure, kazhaga kanmani CR's protest notwithstanding, I have to do my dooty.
NOV, pls add kovai sarala for sure.
Let's face off Thangavelu vs Cho vs Chandrababu.
Idhula, nobody has dissed Chandrababu so unless anyone is vehemently against him, he will also be out of the list.
Thangavelu vs Cho - final round. Let's change the debate format.
Let's recall atleast 3 different instances of outstanding comedy by each. And let's recall some kaattu mokkais (atleast 3 of them) for each.
Let's debate the nature of their humour and why a) it was atleast funny for the time b) it stands the test of time or doesnt stand c) it is singularly unfunny.
For Cho, as Joe said, the humour is political. For example, the scene in Guru Sishyan where he plays on his hand to indicate symbols of DMK, ADMK and Congress to indicate the pachondithanam of the character was great but context specific. Then again, considering the context, it was surely funny.
For Thangavelu, is there something called his style or does it depend on the script. Did he rise above the script ever? Cho sure did.
Summarising:
1. Define the style of humour of your candidate - TV or Cho
2. Describe why that style can be funny for atleast a set of people given the context
3. Did they rise above the script ever - infact this is a consideration that surely brings Sarala in the list becuse how can we credit her for Sathi Leela? So, give instances of where TV or Cho rose above the script with their unique brand of humour
4. Give a rough estimate of their strike rate (ie) if they have roughly acted in n films, and you roughly estimate m instances as funny, then strike rate =m/n. Subjectivity accepted.
Idhukkappuram naan oru mudivukku varen.
NOV, let's go ahead with Kovai Sarala
(Thambis CR and RS, what fun is there in dissing Sachu? Tell me. Non-entities-ai padutharadhula enna sugam? Sarala, while a mokkai, was there in a great % of the movies being produced at her peak, which you can not say of Sachu)
Ayya,Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Pls Thangavelu-va vittudunga..
kalyanaparisu comedy-kku sirippee varallinna ..naan enge porathu :x
Joe, naama thangavLukku vakkalaaththu vaanga thEvai illai. avar munnE niraya "comedians" pitchai vaanganum.
aduththu enna? Prabhu Ram sonna maadhiri Nagesh'a unfunny comedian list la pOda pOraanga. namakkenna? its completely their loss.
:shock: Birathar, enna ithu? Enna mathiri half-boil semi-literate film fans eppadi response pannurathu? Naan eppadi ezhuthuven, enggey ezhuthuven, aanaa ethachum ezhuthumnu tondrathu!Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
1)
Cho is satiric. He is basically good in spoofing certain segment or level of folks - mostly politicians. Good satirist, and is very contemporary. But fed with mokka lines, he is unfunny.
Tanggavelu - despite what PR said - has fine delivery and timing. His lines can be mokkai in others hand (say, the wooden pre-Pandyarajan eye roller TR Ramachandran), but he makes it funny.
So, intha vishyatula Tanggavelu gets the spot.
2. Kosteen arakuraiyaathaan purinjathu. But never mind.
Cho's best moments appeal to people in the know, namely those who follow politics and happenings.
Tanggaveloo's appeal to pretty wide range (at that time, and some at this time, except of course you-know-who and you-know-who). Especially family audience.
3.
Answer in the first kosteen. But both are not good in slapstick, or body language. Rendu peerum out. (I did laugh at KAT's hair/wig at the end of Nam Naadu, though). And Cho's Post TRR, PrePandyarajan eye rolling never really caught on.
4. Strike ellam sollurengga. Leesa thaan puriyuthu.
Okay, let me put it this way.
If Cho is Model 29 Smith & Wesson, than KAT is Walter PPK. First one, slow, but can blow your head clean off. Second one, faster, being fully automatic, but lesser damage.
Eppadi?
Cho - Thangavelu :arrow: conpeesan :confused2:
Joe, NOV - ellam oru vilayatta dhane - serious-a eduthakkadheenga. (Ingeyum, my frivolity is chasing me :-( )
Indha thread aarambichappave, ennoda character, intentions-ellam open-a solli dhaan armabichaen
Indha GM thread-la, vadivelu thread-la ellam, positive-aa, kandamenikku pugazhndu pugazhndhu pottutturundhaanga - namakku dhaan makkal positive-a sirichikittu irundha porukadhe - adhaan ipdi divert panninaen. Purinjikittu odhungina ore aal Honestraj dhaan, Manushan killadi. Neenga ellam valai-la vandhu sikkittenga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
The whole idea, as prabhuram would put it, here was to take the 'holy cow's and generate an alternate discussion on why they need not be holy cows - an attempt at de-deification, let's say. Which is why we didnt spare NSK even.
I am very open to including GM in the mix since NOV feels strongly against him. (Sonia gandhi-ai varutha paduthittu nalla irukka mudiyuma adhanaala I'll give weightage to one NOV over 100 hubbers :-) ). GM-kum case podungappa. Infact, given my intention, and given the hubbers' preference, I should have actually directed the conversation towards Gounder's failings earlier
(Now(v), let's see how anjasingam prabhuram reacts - PR, holy cows-ai deconstruct pannanumnu solluveeyale, ippo pannunga paarkalam)
Plum, holy cow steakhouse appidinnu thread-ku subtitle pOtturuveenga pOla...
varisayA varEn
adhukku munnAdi.... unga commitment-ku oru :bow: