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App,
Chittukkuruvi inspiration is from Dvorak New world symphony - 3rd movement. Anyway, the inspiration stays only
with the first line. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0-F...ure=grec_index
BTW, good job by vairamuthu for the tough tune.
Murali, I had a hunch you'll respond to my post :). Infact, suyamvaram came to my mind but somehow I linked Karthik to Aiswarya in my mind. Yeah, I remember now. So, Prabhu is the winner :thumbsup:
Prabhu also figures in the gender-reversed version of App's ArAichi - Ambi Chechi did with both father and son. Radha, too, sort of. Anyone else?
Oh yes and the aforementioned Lakshmi as well
Murali, wasn't Shankarabaranam Thulasi the Chinna Veedu? I remember only vaguely...
Excellent memory, Murali sir! You're amazing!
Thank you RR sir, for the link to the first line inspiration!
Yes, VM had done a commendable job. He has that unbeatable command over vocabulary!
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Originally Posted by Plum
BTW, was there any Sridevi-Prabhu movie? (I think she acted with NT in Sandhippu)...
App, No Prabhu-Sridevi. In Sandhippu itself, Prabhu-Radha. Funnily, with two Sivajis and one Prabhu, the director still finds room for Sarath Babu to perform stunts, dance etc. Embarassingly bad, caught it recently.
ok Plum, looks like Sridevi left TF (for Telugu / Indhi) before Prabhu became solo hero...
RR, thanks for that link. Never heard this one before. Spellbinding :bow:
exActly! inexplicable feel that song has!..Quote:
Originally Posted by groucho070
#207 அட மச்சம் உள்ள
(சின்ன வீடு, 1985 , ஜானகி, ஷைலஜாவுடன்)
The first line, as read in thiraippadal (அட மச்சமுள்ள) didn't bring the song into mind at all. Those two words have to be split to get the song playing in mind :-) What a cracker of a song this one is! I very clearly remember relishing this number those days (can't clearly recall connecting this number to the KBR movie, though I've seen the movie...padam andha latchaNam).
There are some hubbers who enjoyed discussing about this number here and it's quite interesting to note disk.box calling SPB "சுப்பு செல்லம்" :-) Also, this song seems to evoke nice memories and emotions outside the hub too, see this blog and notice the poster's expressions :-)
Other than the terrific percussion cocktail, the song also boasts of the spicy 'dhira nanna' thingy. Sometime back KV was trying to find out if TVG had sung in any other song - I'm not positive this is TVG but at the minimum, it's TVG-like sound made by someone. Spice taken from 'idhu oru nilAkkAlam' song and I think IR is trying to connect 'sabalam' with such lingo. In common speech, people use such jiginA phrases as 'oof, aaf, jollu, aiyyO, yabbA, yammA' to connect with this and looks like dhira nannA / nagir dhanA etc do that job in rAsA language (apart from the other mukkal munagals patented by SJ). In any case, that fusion makes this song extra-catchy and sophisticated.
I don't remember reading much dissection of this song by hub-pundits...I feel there are some brilliant musical ideas hiding in this number to be uncovered by V_Sji / Sureshji and other experts. Request their kind attention :-)
Ah yes, forgot since the good doctor mentioned Pollathavan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
DIG > Plum, those days Rajiv was the right man to play such characters. Have you seen this devotional K.R.Vijaya movie in which Rajiv tortures his son? Treats him like a dog by throwing biscuits on the floor & letting his pet dog loose on him. Kid seeks divine intervention. God makes dog bite Rajiv and then..Rajiv barks, licks and makes whimpering sounds like a dog. If you see this one, that 2 sec expression wouldn't bother u anymore! > END DIGQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Ada Machamulla is an absolute crackerjack of a song .
Just go crazy whenever i listen to this terrorizer.
Everything about this song is just so gobsmacking awesome
Right from the counterpoint of the Sax and Trumpet to the half beat challenge to the bass going parallelly in its own merry path to some oh louly phaser effects to some absolutely rip roaring singing by the evergreen duo SPB and SJ .
Raaja creates a mini magnum opus in a matter of 5 minutes
:clap: :ty: :bow:
As App rightly said , this song is loaded with so many brilliant musical ideas and it needs experts like V_S , Suresh , KV and others to uncover the brilliance.
Guys , come and decipher this googly .:)
+1.
Thats one of my favorite Bagyaraj songs. I even like the other Bagyaraj, the Drunken Monk! :ashamed:
Yes, that's a mighty composition. I have watched the movie many times especially for this song and chittukuruvi. Thanks App for your confidence in me. :D Please give me some time.
skr, can you please write about it elaborately, as I have seen you post some wonderful posts/thoughts, I see the urge in you, but somehow you keep it very short :wink:.
Thanks App for sharing Unnai ThEdi VaruvEn song, I don't remember hearing that song.
Japanil Kalyanaraman has some great songs as you posted. I remember someone saying about this film.
'EllArum flight'la YEriyaacha?'. Aamaam sir, ellaarum irukkaanga. Flight already took-off.
'Film'ku thEvaiyaana ellaam konduvandhachaa?'. Yes, sir, I checked every instruments/chairs/groceries, everything we brought sir.
'OK very good, antha script'a konjam thaangapa, konjam correction pannanum'. Script'A? appadi Yethuvum eduthuttu varalaiye sir??? I didn't have any instructions about it.
'Adappavigala, sari pona pogattum, ellam anga pOi paathukalam'. Naan edukarthu than kathai, Makkal paakarthu avanga thalai Yezhuthu! :lol:
Only good thing about the film, is they showed the expo 1984 (I think) continuing on the lines of Ulagam Sutrum Vaaliban which covered Expo 1970.
nanRi skv, V_Sji & hattori_hanzo!
While V_Sji works on his analysis of the sinna veedu song, let's move on with the next movie - this one a biggie...actually a "double" biggie:-)
#208 சோடிக்கிளி எங்கே சொல்லு சொல்லு
(படிக்காதவன், 1985 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Like Murali sir mentioned in a recent post, this movie was a 1985-er but I had a chance to watch only in 1986, that too in a horrible theater (for all practical purposes a 'tent kottakai' but in a proper structure) at the Walayar Checkpost in the TN-Kerala border. This used to be the nightmare spot those days if someone undertakes riding the buses from Kovai to Palakkad on Sunday evenings when invariably huge traffic jam strikes - with people spending hours, sometimes even until Monday morning. Walayar village is actually inside Kerala but mostly occupied by Thamizh speaking people. The only exception being the Malabar cement factory's employee quarters where most were Malayalees. Well, I spent my initial few months of Palakkad life there (living with a bachelor friend who worked in that factory). The spot is equi-distantal from Kovai & Palakkad with huge teak trees and foresty setting.
While the quarters are in one side of the highway, on the other side of the highway is a real forest and travelling about a KM (crossing the railway line) will get one to that cement plant, located in the home of elephants. It's not unusual to spot elephants in that area and a real picturesque place with heavy rains for around 3 months a year (June / July / Aug and portions of Sep, until Onam arrives). The bachelor friend was a RK fan and grabbed me to the nearest theater for this movie that had Sivaji playing Rajini's elder brother.
MV sang the sweet 'oru koottukkiLiyAka' for NT while the RK songs were shared by SPB & KJY. Obviously, KJY got the best number (IMO) - the vEppilai karuvEppilai song that can raise goosebumps each time one hears it. The movie was one of the many AB-hindi-hit-remakes that RK used to indulge in those days. I've seen the original during college days in the audi. Well, I liked the AB version more overall (possibly the theater effect for NT-RK movie :oops:).
SPB had this sweet duet with SJ and a solo. I'm generally not a big fan of SJ's speaking/ singing when there's no instrumental backing but the beginning of this song is agreeable, even sweet:-) Ofcourse, the arrival of SPB gives phenomenal enthu for the song, doubled by the slam-bang of orchestration as well. Rajinikanth was handsome in the movie and for a few years it was Ambika or Radha by default in all commercial biggies. Accordingly, this had the elder sis and the director was the same one who did malayur mambattiyAn, kAkkichchattai and thambikku entha ooru. (Typically such movies went to SPM and one wonders why Rajasekar for this).
One thing that I clearly remember about this movie was the Malayalam spelling (I was feverishly learning to read that language at that time and was reading everything on walls / hoardings / boards etc). pat(h)ikkAththavan. Usage of the second "t(h)a" that looked like English O was funny to me and so was the extra consonant that made kAdhavan read kAththavan :lol: (It wasn't unusual to have such Malayalamized titles for Thamizh movies...possibly their polite revenge to the TN akramam of ugly titles for Malayalam movies...e.g. I learnt that a Malayalam movie named eettA, meaning nANal, was translated as 'inba dhAgam' :rotfl:). In any case, if you type "padikkAthavan" in google transliteration of Malayalam, it gets you "പഠിക്കാത്തവന്*" only :lol2:
If one wants to view a "typical TF duet" on screen : sOdikkiLi engE sollu sollu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQ2yCfbGvc
app,
NIce pick.. indha padathil indha paatu dhan romba piidkum. yenu theiryadhu..
bird kathara satham. romba azhagu indha paatula.. Current poga poradhu. unga writings inum padikala.
Fb language la. romba like ...........
SPB and SJ.. always Rock.......... beautiful competition is there always............
app,
unga ambika chechi list la.. Penmaanae sangeedham paadi va.. solliteengala.
wat about the Ramarajan nos from SPB and SJ.............
ana onnu. SPB pathi naan sonnalum. Raja's composition nu solluven. adha pathi solla inga idam iruka.........
nanRi Usha Chechi!
peN mAnE got posted a few pages back...please check out this post and the next one that has the youtube.
Ramarajan has not come into scene yet :-)
நீங்க தாராளமா ராசா பத்திப்பேசுங்க...நானெல்லாம் என் காலேஜ் கதையெல்லாம் சொல்லிக்கிட்டு இருக்கேன் எஸ்பிபி / ராசா பேர சொல்லிக்கிட்டு :-)
App ,
Lovely song and funny reading about the Malayalam translations :rotfl:
Despite me having some Palakkad roots, ive never visited that place . Would love to go there one day :)
V_S ,
Thanks for the encouragement. Dont know if i could ever write like you , but your writings are always an inspiration.Will try me best though :)
skr,
My Palakkad stuff is at least 8 years old and many things have changed since then.
Ofcourse, most of the geography should be still good but not all other demographics...
#209 ராஜாவுக்கு ராஜா நான்டா
எனக்கு மந்திரிங்க யாருமில்லை
(படிக்காதவன், 1985 )
Song powered by SPB and majestic wind instruments. rAsA in jubilant mood unleashing some of his carefree orchestral indulgences.
However, song looking so ugly on screen :-( Lack of technology / poor editing + graphics pal iLichchal. Should have been an embarassment for Rajinikanth & Raja when watching the movie (for BGM work or the preview). How can a successful director with some self-respect could do such screen shots - no one can imagine. More than the fact that the director / producer made jokers of themselves, the thing that irritates one is their taking TN people for granted / grossly underestimating the sensibilities of an average movie-viewer in TN. I'm sure it would have pained a precision artist like rAsA to watch such atrocities on screen!
Well, the song was a hit nevertheless - thanks to the popularity of Rajinikanth and the hard work of IR / SPB. Possibly rAsA had gone numb over the years to such massacres of his hard work on-screen. So should we be :-)
Accordingly, one can do two things w.r.t.such songs. 1. Focus on the musical brilliance 2. Get reminded of some personal experiences / funny events in life or the news items / other nostalic stuff of the time period when the album or the movie was hot. That way, I have the third reason for indulging in some suya purANam in this thread :wink: ( First reason - documenting the effect of rAsA & SPB on a typical / average admirer in TN under a variety of everyday life situations ; Second reason - getting a personal kick in asai pOdal - like reading some old, favourite kaduthAsees that were saved over the years)
That way, the recalls of this song were the moring 7:15 bus trips from the Walayar bus stand to workplace in Palakkad koottuppAtha...bus with songs ofcourse :-) BTW, this "bus stand" was nothing more than a small open space -half the size of a soccer field- on the border of TN-Kerala where Coimbatore city bus # 96 used to transfer people into Kerala buses plus the location of a few tea stalls, some occasional drunken comedians, frequent rain and sakathi.
My few months with those bus trips didn't have any interesting events - except my precise registering of the bus stops / daily-seen-faces / "landmarks" etc. (Recently a friend sent me a picture without any details and asked me to guess the location and I stunned him by telling the precise place...well, I've crossed that exact spot 100's of times on bus those days and many times on motor cycle later on...wherever there're no big changes, I can identify every small sign / post / landscape...)
app,
ipo dhan oru Rajini paatu. tv la pathen. en kite modhadhae paatai.. stanza kaetutu. en paiyan
rajavuku raja naan . andha paatu dhanae nu kaetan. ....... haha. apadi indha paata ipo dhan
paiyan kuda pesitu vandhen. inga unga post. great thought. current pora neram. fulla padikalai.
Watched kaLavANi-II last night (titled 'eththan', this has Vimal in a very similar role).
We've recently discussed the song 'ada machcham uLLa' & await V_Sji's analysis on that. Well, this song's 'dhira nannA' in the first interlude is used as BGM in this movie...
I thought IR was talking about rights issue and forbiddance of such usage in new movies...there may be copyright loophole or the maker of eththan paid money to the rights' owner (KBR?)...
nanRi UshakkA...from your posts one can understand how acute is the power shortage problem in TN...
App, Rajavinde magan used that na dhir dha na jadhi in "Goa".
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Originally Posted by Plum
BTW, eppadi life-la ivvaLavu risk-lAm edukkaReenga? (i.e. watching GA's son's movies) :-)
#210 பாட்டுத்தலைவன் பாடினால் பாட்டுத்தான்
கூட்டம் ரசிக்கும் தாளமே போட்டுத்தான்
(இதயக்கோயில், 1985 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Let's welcome ace director MR to this series as this is the first SPB-IR song from a MR movie that gets posted :-) Unfortunately, I never had a chance to watch this movie. Only a few song clips on youtube. Strangely, I don't know anything about the story line, BO status and such details about this movie as well - despite this being a product of Motherland pictures, that too with one of my favourite directors. Well, one thing I definitely know - Mohan had his mike :lol: And, SPB had most songs (rAsA had one "track" number and the oorOramA Aththuppakkam thennanthOppu duet with KSC).
This duet used to be my top favourite those days (even now the most favourite portion in the whole album is the way SJ sings in the start of the second saraNam - such a beauty!) Also, the use of drums for the saraNam part is sweettO sweettu. I can't say the same about the tablA work for the pallavi - ordinary by rAsA standards IMO. Except the 'pAdinAl pAttuththAn' phrase, somewhat weak pallavi. Especially, 'sOrndha pOdhu sErndha suruthi' is quite dull in an otherwise brilliant song. Well, the total package is enjoyable and never boring to me :-)
Like I mentioned before, don't recall any Trichy-college connection with this album. Only Coimbatore - Palakkad connection. Possibly "the most heard album" during my night bus trips during the bachelor days. That too, I clearly remember many times hearing this in the buses while simbly sitting and waiting for the bus to start, after getting the ticket:oops: It wasn't unusual to wait for 30 minutes in buses (after the second show @ Kovai) before they took off. I had no complaints as long as there was rAsA mazhai.
I've recently read in the tidbits thread that VM had asked in a mag what things IR had given back to TN people.
Well, what did I personally give to rAsA for making my life so much -so so much - enjoyable during such moments?
How many more 1000's (possibly 100's of 1000's) had a similar enjoyment like mine in their lives, for which rAsA was never personally compensated?
I wish I get a chance to talk to VM :-)
For the past 2 days, I have been immersing myself with intoxicating females of Indian Cinema- Sushila, Lata, Janu, Asha...Ladies, How can I thank!:musicsmile:
Good to be back to Bala with Idhayak koyil, 80s Ilayaraja's fantastic album :clap:.
I watched Idhayak koyil in USA. We used to rent movies from Madras Cafe, Atlanta.
பீமால் ராய், ஸ்ரீதர், குரு தத், பாலசந்தர், ஹ்ரிஷிகேஷ் முக்ஹெர்ஜி, ர.வ.உதயகுமார், மணி ரத்னம், கமல் ஹாசன் to சேரன், அமிர்கான், விஷால் பரத்வாஜ் , மிஷ்கின், வசந்த பாலன் & more, more
I was/am catching up later & now :grin:
pattu thalaivan paadinaal paattuththaan......drunkard Bala turns into joyous mood with Janu and Raja's sax and electric guitar:musicsmile:, these compositions are perennial favorites of IR's fans.
Golden album, app_eng.
Vinatha.
IDHAYAKKOVIL
A very atypical Maniratnam movie --- too bright for his standards, formulaic and also devoid of the usual oligo syllabalic dialogues. An extended comedy track by Gounder - Barber turned "Punnagavarali" expert singer. Mohan's dad Rail Srinivasan .... another portrayal totally un mani yistic.
"Koottathile kovil pura" and "Paattu thalaivan" earned Mohan the title " Aayiram thadavai Thalai aattiya aboorva Mike Mani".
The title song "Idhayam oru Kovil" ...... flooded the Vividh Bharathi airings in those times .... but a bit iriitating number IMO , probably because of the monotony resulting from IR - SPB combination having given 100s of similar numbers sharing the same mood and rhythm.
One sign of Maniratnam I noted in the movie ..... Radha is shown as some management studies student and her lecture hall blackboard shows the "Programme Evaluation and Review Techniques " by the CPM - critical path method in the background.
True, baroque:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
However, my "connect" with this album is inferior compared to rAsA's output for earlier movies of Motherland pictures (possibly because I was in "transit")...
Try NAAN PAADUM MOUNARAAGAM.......minimalistic Ilayaraja's pathos, App_eng. You will connect plenty.:(
Trust me, App_eng, Your heart will wrench in sogam. Mother of all melancholy with flute and heart bleeding violin.
கவிஞர் வைரமுத்துவின் வரிகள் நான் பாடும் மௌன ராகம் கேட்கவில்லையா?
You host couple of more Bala delights from this album in coming days.
vinatha.
Fantastic album - no weak link
Yes, "Naan Paadum Mouna Ragam" is one of the saddest songs i've ever listened to
And Vaanuyarnda Solaiyilae is decorated sadness. It's the sadness of a forthcoming artist who is willing to ostentatiously exhibhit it. Naan Paadum on the other hand is reflective. Enna characterisationO ezhavu - didn't Mani take this project over from someone(R Sundar?) after the latter had done a bit of shoot? In the sense, it was more of a "for-hire" job?
The first portable mp3 player that I had, had a fall one day conking its earphone jack. There was, however, one good thing that this accident resulted in. While testing it (after the fall) I happened to play Ada machamulla to discover that it filtered out some tracks/layers and only the bass notes were audible! (I'm guessing this was recorded to have the bass along with a few other sounds in one track/side and the rest in the other(s). Some punniyavaan here used to do this bass line extracting a while back. God knows where he is these days.) Whoa! what a treat! This one's another killer bass score - typical IR jump notes mixed with syncopation. Add to this some crazy trumpet work and lively drums and mrudangam. Like I've said many times, nothing can match the intensity of acoustic drums/instruments and this song's another proof to it.
SPB's singing after the first charanam somehow reminds me of MV, his singing is very much like the latter here. The 2nd charanam is agmark Balu though.
+1. Yes killer bass track and trumpets and some uneven rhythm punches steal the show. KV, everything you said. :thumbsup:
Sorry App, little bit held up during these holidays, please give me few more days.
Idhaya koyil songs nalla system'la kekanum, heavenly. I felt some great recording done for this soundtrack. Every song is a masterpiece.