Islamic Invasions ! Hindus Persecutions !

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

A genocide remain a genocide !

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The response to it can vary with time and how we perceive it.

Eelavar wrote: since Indian history books have chosen to keep quiet about this huge chunk of Indian history - nearly 10 centuries of horrors.

Agreed there was a genocide of Indians by the invading muslims, there is a conspicuous attempt to hide this fact for the same reason that hides the lower caste subjugation in the so called glorious vedic era as clearly elucidated by the vedas and manu sastra. The lack of unity in hinduism is mostly because of the casteism, and the definition of hinduism as propogated by certain section of the people. When the subjects are told that your sacred scriptures are vedas but you cannot read them, what sort of unity/sense of belonging can one expect ?
Is hinduism as practiced across the country has anything to do with vedas ?
Do we have a lot of temples across the country for the vedic gods ?
why the common practices of hindus across the regional affiliations appear similar and non vedic ?
untill the hijack of hinduism by the vedics is prevented, and the real essence of hinduism projected, there will be o unity among hindus, the attack stared with the vedics, continued with the muslims, gods knows who it could be in the future economic wars.

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

And who is AMR btw??

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AMR mean, A. M. Rajagopalan, who is the chief edtor of Kumudam Jyothidam. He is a great astrologer (really great) and he is person who writes often about these things in the same magazine..

www.kumudam.com

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

[tscii]unfortunately it is a militant religion, as it believes that there is only one God and all the other Gods are false.

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Not only Islam has this view, even Chritianity has the same view....I think only Sanaathana Dharma has a different view in this....

"Yepyanya Devatha Bhaktha Yajanthe Shraddhayaan Vitaha: |
Tepi Maameva Kountheya Yajanthey Vidhi Poorvakam||

this is a sloka from 9th chapter of Bhagavath Geetha, which says, whoever follows his way of life and prays to his own God( means Praying God in the way he wants) with sincerity in heart and do his Karma, will attain me (the Suprreme Almighty) by law...

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Originally Posted by dsath

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Originally Posted by Eelavar

A genocide remain a genocide !

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The response to it can vary with time and how we perceive it.

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So madam, do you mean to say, Genocide can become a service to the society when viewed from a different platform? I wish to see an example of such a situation, explained by you....

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

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Originally Posted by Surya

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Originally Posted by Srivatsan

For this act of P'Raj, he is still getting kicks from Afgani's foot. Yes this is a ritual....after P'Raj was beheaded, he was burried at the entrance of "Ghori's Mausoluem" (or memorial mosque) and every one who visits that Mosque for a prayer, will have to go and kick the "Samaadhi" of Prithivi........Look at the plight of a Great King....

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Yup, I read an article written by AMR, he also stated that the afghanis also spit on his grave. He claims that he along with many other Indians have written countless letters to different departments of the Indian Govt to make efforts to bring the remaining parts of Pritviraj Maharaj to India, but it seems that the different departments just didn't care enough. :roll: :hammer:

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:shock: :evil: :oops:......machi, not jus the departments, our society in general doesnt care enuff! :evil:
I mean, how many over here r like us.....? :(
And who is AMR btw??

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Exactly! :oops: I've spoken to people about this, and there are people who argue that doing this would create a feeling of communalism amoung Indians...WTF?!?!?! :banghead: Sure, this creates a feeling of Communalism, but Politicians quoting "Hindu Enraal Thirudan" which was completly out of context is perfectly alright?! :roll: WHAT A SHAME! :|

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Originally Posted by Elavar

* the Hindu ‘fundamentalists’ did not kill a single soul in Ayodhya

*later in revenge by Indian Muslims with the help of Pakistan, killed more than 350 innocent human beings

* Hinduism has been one of the most peaceful creeds in the world, accepting the reality of different beliefs

* The same thing cannot be said about Islam,

*has got nothing to do with vengeance. Do the Jews of today want to retaliate upon contemporary Germany? No. It is only a matter of making sure that history does not repeat its mistakes, as alas it is doing today in India : witness the persecution of Hindus in Kashmir, whose 250.000 Pandits have fled their 5000 year old homeland, or the oppression of Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

*No collective memory should be erased for appeasing a particular community. Hiding the facts and justifying past Muslim crimes has led to terrorism in the Indian sub-continent.

*Indian school books seem to have taken their cue from the Encyclopedia Brittannica , as there is hardly any mention of this dark aspect of India’s past. But why does India negate its history?

*Will Durant, Louis Frederick, or Alain Danielou, have remarked that the Muslim invaders were so certain that they were doing their holy duty by razing temples and killing Hindus

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Wonderful Post Elavar! :clap: Thanks for posting that article. :)

Lamby and Sandeep,

Yeah it's already been explained by Srivatsan. :)

I think that AMR is more of a Social and Cultural Advisor rather than just a Astrologist. :)

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Originally Posted by Mahadevan

untill the hijack of hinduism by the vedics is prevented, and the real essence of hinduism projected, there will be o unity among hindus, the attack stared with the vedics, continued with the muslims, gods knows who it could be in the future economic wars.

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Vedics? That's a term that is used over and over in this section of the hub, who are u reffering to when you say that? The hijack? What Hijack? Back in the day, when lower caste people were forbbiden to read the Vedas? If so, that so-called "Hijack" doesn't exist anymore. No one is ristricted from reading the Vedas anymore.

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Originally Posted by Surya

I've spoken to people about this, and there are people who argue that doing this would create a feeling of communalism amoung Indians...WTF?!?!?! :banghead: Sure, this creates a feeling of Communalism, but Politicians quoting "Hindu Enraal Thirudan" which was completly out of context is perfectly alright?! :roll: WHAT A SHAME! :|

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If telling the truth is going to create a communal tension, then it is better be faced and be controlled with Iron fist....Truth is truth...If a sect of people, doesnt want to accept this, then they better accept. :twisted:

dear Surya,
Thank you very much. :wink:

To all

AIT, Vedas and Caste system are the three most misunderstood subjects in India !
I will post articles which resume my opinion.
Please note that all those quotations are writted by an European who reconize, and who have admiration for the Indian civilisation, anciant as modern.
Francois Gautier is a french born journalist who live for more than 30 years in India, and know it well.
He wrote many books relating to the Indian society, he is really well informed.