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Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
enna style! antha kalathulaiyE
nothing to be astonished. HE DESERVES THIS AND MUCH MORE.Quote:
Originally Posted by nilavupriyan
Dear friends,
Normally most of the posts in the thread about Shivaji songs, probably 'Shivaji-MSV' combination. Now for a change I want to bring a song from 'Shivaji-IR' combination.
Movie: THIYAAGAM
Song: 'Nallavarkellaam Saatchigal Rendu'
Lyric: 'Kavinger' Kannadasan
Music: 'Isaingani' Ilaiya Raja
Singer: 'Great' T.M.Soundar Rajan
Camera: N.Balakrishnan
Producer: K.Balaji (Sujatha Cine Arts)
Director : K.Vijayan
'Thiyaagam' is the second movie from Shivaji - IR combination (first one is Deepam), which have very good songs like:
1. Vasandha kaala kolangal (one of the big list of SJ with IR)
2. Ulagam verum iruttu (indha paattu oru dhirushti pottu)
3. Varuga engal dheivangaley (a chorus song by multiple singers when Shivaji riding cycle for 72 hours, to save poor Nagesh's daughter)
4. Thenmalli Poovey (only duest for Shivaji & Lakshmi, beautifully picturised in Kerala location)
5. Nallavarkellaam Saatchigal rendu (which one we are going to discuss).
'Thiyaagam' is nearly watched most of the Film lovers at the period of late 70s and early 80s. (Due to the 'punniyam' of several private channels, even present generation also have oppertunities to watch old and semi old movies, and wondering how they were achieved in the past). So, the story of the movie well known.
The affectionate lovers of Shivaji and Lakshmi, parted due to some misunderstanding puposely created by villains VKR and MRR Vasu, to send Shivaji to jail and to swallow the properties of Shivaji. After he released from Jail, he tries to change the misunderstood lakshmi with his various good activities. One of the incident is, saving Lakshmi from villain 'Justin' by fighting in a fish market.
Next time when she was travelling in a boat in the night, the boat drivers tries to treat Lakshmi wrongly because of their 'kudi bodhai'. There also Shivaji save her from them. Lakshmi slowly understand he is not culprit, through the father of the lady, for whose murder Shivaji gone to Jail.
This song shooted in a boat, it was beautifully picturised by a wonderful Camera Director N.Balakrishnan (the camera handler of the great Sivandha Mann and MGR's 'Idhaya kani')
When Shivaji was singing, by standing on the deck of the boat, when Lakshmi is sleeping inside the cabin. Song starts with nice humming of TMS.. which followed by a nice prelude of flute solo for a long time and then by flute & guitar. The tune will perfectly coincide with the smooth movement of the boat.
"Nallavarkellaam saatchigal rendu
ondru manasaatchi
ondru dheivathin saatchiyammaa"
Kannadasan songs always well known for its power packed, same in this song also. What are all defects happened, I am not responsible, it is because of the rule of GOD.
"Nadhi vellam kaaindhu vittaal nadhi seytha kutram illai
vidhi seytha kutram andri veru yaarammaa
paravaigaley bathil sollungal
manithargal mayangumbothu neengal pesungal
manadhukku manadhu konjam thoodhu sellungal"
"Nallavarkellaam..." (suddenly director will show Lakshimi's beautiful face in close-up, with half sleep). She will wake up by hearing this song, just watch she was covered by a red blanket, (which she watched Shivaji was wearing in the night). She will just see it and close her body with the blanket again tightly with a nice smile and affection, imagining Shivaji hugs her. Director shows it without a single dialogue, that she has come out from the mis-understanding with her lover Shivaji. Then slowly moves to the deck, when Shivaji is singing second charanam.
"Aandavan ariya nenjil oru thuli vanjam illai
avanandri enakku veru aaruthal illai
manidhanamma mayangugiren
thavarukku thunindha manithan azhuvathillaiye
thavariyum vaanam mannil vizhuvathillaiye"
When Shivaji singing this line, Director will show Lakshmi's face with an expression 'ayyo paavam...ivaraiyaa sandhegapatten'.
(Lakshmi is a wonderful actress for any roll with fentastic face expressions)
After this song finished, the boat-boy will bring tea for Shivaji. Shivaji just watches Lakshmi standing behind him, giving the tea to her and asked the boy 'innoru tea konda'.
"Tea saapidu Radha.... soodu aarida poguthu"
"Soodu aari pOchu...."
anbudan
sarooo....
raghu and all other friends,
Here is lot of details about Nadigar Thilagam..But you need Murasu anjal to read this ,I think.
http://www.tamilthirai.com/biodata/sivaji/sivaji.htm
From dinamalar
http://www.dinamalar.com/2004july21/imp45.asp
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"NADIGAR THILAGAM", "SEVALIER",DR. SIVAJI GANESON!!
IS THE KING OF ACTING!!!!!!
Hi,
Whoever is trying to build Sivaji website, I have a suggeestion: We should try to get the contents of now defunct website www.sivaji-prabhu.org. If I remember correctly, that web site was maintained by Sivaji Arakattalai and the web site contents was very rich about Sivaji's cinema life.
Dear all,
I was watchin a Shivaji Sir Song film yesterday, the song is ONE of my fav Kaviarasu Kanadasan song, 'Nalavartkellam saatchihal rendu ondru mana saatchi' , it had actress lakshmi as well in the song!
Can some one tell me the film plssssssssssssssssssss
I think raghu, shivaji acted only in one movie with lakshmi (apart from rajarishi) tht must be THYAGAM.
i like the final song from the movie karnan---ullathil nalla ullam
tooo good
exxxxxxxxlcennt song. meaningful too. Makes one shed tears. I loved that movie. Shivaji stays in our mind as karnan (more than even pankaj dheer)
the body language as karnan is par beyond excellence ,NTR as kannan is also too good plus amazing music..i downloaded the song after long search
Did u happen to watch MAHABHARAT in hindi.
Nitesh bharadwaj as krishna is the bEST
shivaji is ofcourse ultimate in karnan role.
yeah i have seen he is gud ,but in the movie NTR was brilliant particulary the song
Oh thanks Shakthi acca,Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
I must watch this for Shivaji sir and of course the song!!!!!!!
Yes yes, Shivaji sir is KARNAN , he lived it, he simply lived the character of KARNAN, in fact he LIVES the character of every role he has played, a big lakalakalkalaklaklak to the GREATEST Shivaji SIR!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
well raghu,
Ive not watched the movie myself. There is a BEAUTIFUL SONG in that movie. (forgot the song now)
I warn u though, shivaji may not LOOK HIS BEST. He would have bread shaped double chinned look, and would be singing duet with LAKSHMI :banghead:
Story may be worthy. not sure.
Sakthi prabha and raghu
Apart from Thyagam, Nadigar thilagam had acted with Lakshmi as a father in RAJA RAJA CHOLAN....
yeah balaji, I meant lakshmi as his pair. (in rajarishi lakshmi is menaka)
The golden era of Bheemsingh gave new dimension to Nadigar Thilagam’s acting prowess…..
Paalum pazamum – as a doctor
Padikaaadha medhai – an orphan and uneducated , how he brings the whole family ( which goes astray ) together
Paasa malar – brother and sister affection
Padithaal mattum podhumaa – an uneducated , rough and tough character
Paarthaal pasi theerum – a matured , ex army guy , as a guardian for his friend’s family
The great Bheemsingh also directed PAAR MAGALAY PAAR A rich business man , very fond of his 2 daughters Vijayakumari and Pushpalatha ,pours his love and affection… a very devoted wife , Sowcar Janaki ( very low profile character )….soon comes to know that one of his daughters is not actually his and starts exhibiting a normal human tendency….doubting both his daughters and pours his frustration before Vijayakumari on her own leaves the house ( though will be his original daughter ) in the larger interests of the family…..soon Nadigar thilagam will realize his mistake and harsh reaction and displays THE AGONY OF A FATHER WHO IS VERY BADLY MISSING HIS DEAREST DAUGHTER……
and this is the best opportunity for the unbeatable combination of Bheemsingh, Kavignar, MSV- TKR , TMS – PBS to come out with another evergreen classic !
AVAL PARANDHU PONAALAY …..
Muthuraman …Vijayakumari’s lover, on coming to know that she has disappeared , starts the song, packed with emotions of a lover who misses his heartthrob ….Muthu is a very good actor….but was often used as a character which underplays …..
The choice of an instrument often is the key to the success of a song …..The duo disproved this theory by departing from the established standards ….a mild and gentle lead guitar ….great !! ….. a hushed silence and a violent cyclonic effect…..Aval parandhu ponaalay…. ( the gentle guitar resurfaces at various points in the song in the same pace ) ……
After the pallavi….a pause …a sequence of cellos….which rarely will be used to express pathos ( normally shenoy is the typical instrument which will come to an MDs mind ) ….the magnificent duo chose Cellos ! for a change …and gave tremendous impact …..followed by a sober flute and violin….
The cyclonic wave impact is another classic example of their presence of mind …to give maximum thrust to the situation ….. as the minds of Shivaji and Muthu will be having a virtual cyclone ……
Kavignar plays his part by adding punch to the grievance of a LOST LOVER :
Yen kaadhukku mozi illai
Yen naavukku suvai illai
Aval idhayathai pootti vaithen
Adhil ennayay kaaval vaithen
Aval kadhavai udaithaalay
Than siragai virithaalay
The first part of the song runs through the emotions of Muthu…..and after a brief pause….. TMS takes over from PBS……. Aval ennakaa magal aanaal…….( a strong guitar follow through ! ) Naan avalukku magan aaanen…….
Now Kavignar switches over to the agony of a DEAR FATHER WHO IS MISSING HIS DAUGHTER :
Aval enakka magal aanaal
Naan avalukku magan aanen
En urimai thaayallavaa
En uyirai eduthu chendraaal
Nadigar thilagam , in a rich man’s attire, will perfectly display the sadness of a Father who has lost his dear daughter ! ….with a face unshaven…..eyes without the usual glow ….face without any charm…..the proudness in the face gone….the dropped shoulders…..
I wonder, from where he took the clue ?! Such a terrific exhibition of emotions……Oru petra magalai tholaitha oru sogathai …thannudaya mugabaavathil kondu varuvaaar !!
Bheemsingh probably wanted to convey everthing through the song….which made him take some VERY CLOSE UP SHOTS…..from various angles for Shivaji…..
Mugabaavathirku oru Nadigar thilagam….. the only actor whose face was shown so closely to show the face reaction ……
God ! appadiyay nondhu poi paaduvaar…..oru alavu kadandha dhukkathodu……
Kavignar …was not finished yet !.....still had some more in his armoury……
Yen veetukku vilakkillai
Sondha kootukkul kuyil illai
Yen nenjukku ninaivillai
Oru aarudhal mozi illai…..
See how Kavignar grasps the given situation and comes with apt wordings !
The duo will finally end the song in the same manner which they started ….again the same gentle guitar flow…..
If someone sees NEERODUM VAIGAYILAY…..and this song, one will realize what ACTING is all about ….a young Shivaji ….with the pride of a business man making his children sleep …in a very cheerful mood …..and the disastrous situation of having lost his dear daughter ……
Hats off to TMS-PBS for displaying the emotions of a father and a lover through their golden voice ……
Bheemsingh was not contended with this song, he took another song ….Paar magalay paar ….Nee ilaadha maaligayay paar magalay paar ! this time , its Shivaji alone
Shivaji’s expression will be that of SOMEONE DEMORALISED AND SHATTERED …..
seated on an old fashioned chair on the main hall of his big bungalow along with Sowcar ….. this shot was needed to show the void and vacuum created by the absence of Vijayakumari ! Bheemsingh had done a thorough home work
For a change, a classic Madhura nagaril thamiz sangam, adhil mangala deepam muzangum….. PBS with PS for Muthu and Vijayakumari …..a love duet …Chorus will prevail as interludes ….
Another interesting aspect of this movie…..M.R.Radha …very uncharacteristic of him….a subdued role …..no tantrums ….. Sowcar will play the role of a devoted wife which is another U turn from her normal style ! Vijayakumari and Pushpalatha ….both will be challenging each other in acting ….the veteran and for all seasons , V.K.R. , who normally tears the ear drums by his loud mouthed comedy…. played a very sober role ….as a friend turning foe briefly ( who will break the suspense to Shivaji earlier ) and finally realizes his mistake and reconciles with Shivaji….. all well picturised…..
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Originally Posted by S.Balaji
Balaji, very aptly said. Another movie that shows his face in close-up is 'Annayin Aanai' (I may be wrong here about the title). His family is wronged by a scheming S. V. Ranga Rao and Sivaji is out to take revenge by marrying his daughter and jails SVR later (something like Baazigar, only much earlier). On his mother's death, the song 'Annayai pol oru theivam illai' starts in the background and Sivaji's face is shown in close-up. The close-up shot continues for about 10-15 secs without any cut and he brings out the feeling of grief and disbelief together so well. How I miss him.. :(
In thangap pathakkam, theer is a scene where he sits to eat his BREAKFAST with the family(when his son happens to be arrested).
Whilst his wife and daughter in law, shows displeasure in their face, he acts pretty normal and starts to eat BREAKFAST.
Soon after he says.... a dialogue "neenga ellaam unga kashtathai azhuduteenga... aanaal naan" and thump his heart rudely.
Can SOMEONE REMEMBER THE DIALOGUE PLEASE and POST IT HERE???
I SIMPLY LOVED THAT SCENE. No over acting. With just those dialogues and a iron-faced look, he would make us cry.
I am a great fan of shivaji sir... sad that i have watched only few of his movies....
I had developed interest in collecting shivaji sir's movies....
currently i hve
- Bagapirivinai
- Devar Magan
- Mudhal Mariyadhai
- Paalum Pazhamum
- Paasa Malar
- Puthiya Paravai
- Savale Samali
- Thiruvilayadal
- Vasantha Maaligai
can anyone list sum of his excellent movies.. worth buying.....?
Hi,
U MUST buy KARNAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raghu dear....
Christmas is approaching now and we are all eagerly awaiting the LAUNCH OF YOUR WEBSITE ON NADIGAR THILAGAM.....THE UNIVERSITY OF ACTING .....
Merry Christmas and happy new year to you
Hi !Quote:
Originally Posted by hi
just a suggestion :
For multidimensional personality - Navarathiri
For a father, orphan son and pet son - Deiva magan
For a rough and tough but gold at heart character - Nyana oli
For a typical middle class MYlapore character - Vietnam veedu
How the great freedom fighter Va Voo Chidambaram would have lived - Kappalotiya thamizan
For braveness and courage to take on the mighty British - Veera pandiya katta bomman
For a total UNDER ACTING : Paarthal pasi theerum
the list will continue....
NavarathiriQuote:
Originally Posted by hi
Karnan
kappalotiya thamilan
veera pandiya kattaboman
thillanga moganambal
kalyana galatta
I will update the list
Its not KALYAANA GALATTA
its
GALATTA KALYANAM
I personally didnt like Galatta Kalyanam, it was as if the jokes were thrust on the viewers. The whole cast, especially Sivaji and Nagesh were wasted in the film.
I love all of his old movies (prior to 80s) and few from recent ones. The movies that I repeat are puthayal (kongu accent - excellent - probably sathileelavathi of those days!), moondru theivangal (definitely a different movie 35 years back - full length comedy movie - hats off to shivaji for this attempt), mudhal mariyathai (did he act or lived?), karnan (even Karnan ever happen to see this, he would wish that he look like Shivaji), parasakthi, thaavani kanavugal (bhagyaraj made good use of shivaji and gave life to the movie) and not but not the least "Devar Magan" - I saw one KH interview where he said people close to him said Shivaji is not required for this movie because the script is strong and KH insists that Shivaji is the pillar no the script and he mentioned that because of Shivaji only the movie is Devar Magan, otherwise it would have been just Magan - true. I love the scenes where father and son discuss about opening up restaurant and shivaji finally broke into tears - so natural and damn good.
Shivaji - Acting defined.
Yeah brilliang acting by Shivaji his dialogue delivery was tooo good not to forget of his expression devar magan is a milestone in tamil..Quote:
Originally Posted by njv
thought they have remade it in hindi as virasaat copycat priyadarshan directed the movie ...neither Anil kapoor matched kamal nor Amrish puri matched the perfection of Shivaji
Just incase someone can quote the scene???Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Hi Prabha
I can recollect the dialogue: First shivaji will ask KR &Premila to have a breakfast they will reply ORRU NAAL SAPPADILANA SETHA POOIDUVUM(we will not die if we dont eat one day).
After a while shivaji will walk away without having breakfast fully. KR&PRAMILA will request shivaji to eat fully. HE WILL REPEAT THE SAME DIALOGUE in his own style; ORRU NAAL SAPPADILANA SETHA POOIDUVENE. Whole theatre will go into the tears after this scene.
ramesh
Thanks uma. Nice remembrance. I LVOED THAT MOVIE.
Actually I was tryin to quote one more dialogue......
he would precisely see something akin to the foll setence......
"unga kashtam neenga azhuduteenga... anaan naan en nenjukullaiyE sumanthu........."
and he would BEAT HIS HEART harshly with IRON-faced LOOK.
AMAZINGLY tearful :sad:.
IMHO, for Nadigar Thilagam , after the 150th movie – Savaalay Samaalee , very few movies were noteworthy….Even savallay samaalee was not that great compared to his established standards
The mid 70s , the late 70s and the early 80s…..witnessed the emergence and the consolidation phase of 2 great actors, Kamal and Rajinikanth…..and Shivaji has to compete with them to sustain , despite his advancing age
He was under compulsion to act with heroenes who were well below his age group….and were no match at all….( somehow Makkal Thilagam managed to overcome this vexatious generation gap )
Some of the movies were so mediocre, terrible and aweful that we started chiding the Legend , when this old man will be calling it a day…..
Again, I won’t blame Shivaji for this as HE WAS LIKE A GOLDMINE….one has to have the talent and creative thinking to get a theme for him
Even at the evening of his life, Nadigar Thilagam had all the energy , enthusiasm and the urge to outperform others…..basically because he was one of those few actors born……
One reason could be that for the kind of variety of roles that he had played , very little was left out……
KB had everything but he was such a dominating director and he used to impose his style on each character that he portrayed … Its impossible to do such things with a lion , Shivaji….
At last , it needed extraordinary imagination and creative thinking and an extraordinary guy like BR to dig out the hidden treasure in Shivaji…..
BR was very particular even for the choice of the movie title….MUDHAL MARIYAADHAI ….
he was determined to honour the IMAYAM in a befitting way…..
The story line has to suit with the ageing Colossus….
The character has to be unique…..at the same time maintain BR’s originality and style…….
By garlanding the Doyen of Tamil Cinema, the voice of BR speaks…ORU IMAYATHIRKU NANGAL SEYYUM MUDHAL MARIYAADHAI…..
Yes, ultimately it found to be THE MOST IDEAL STORY AND CHARACTER FOR NADIGAR THILAGAM…..
An ageing village chief , in the mid 50s , a kind hearted person, didn’t have a good understanding / supportive / LOVING and CARING life partner despite his monumental sacrifice for marrying her ( despite her poor background )….was craving for love and affection …which he gets through a young woman finally ……
Through various sequence of scenes, BR very poetically makes them understand each other and finally a love and bondage emerges…..
The first step to that was through a song sequence….POONKAATRU THIRUMBUMAA…..
Lets go few steps back to get into the core of the song requirement……An uncontrollable wife , chides and insults openly at regular intervals….it was another day at office but this time it was too frustrating and intolerable for even a matured person to absorb within himself…..
So , how to vent out one’s frustration ?? HERE BR’s CREATIVE THINKING AND IMAGINATIVE SKILLS COME OUT ….
1.BR choses a sober song
2.Esai paattu…….
In our villages, esai paattu is a well known phenomenon….one starts with a theme ….which the other one responds immediately …this will be followed by a bit of further developing and finally improvising them and they join together and giving a finishing touch…..Esai paattu can work out successfully only when there is absolute silence , the distance communication has to reach the other party
The old man moves out of the house, wanders in a isolated area in an agricultural field and lakeside , riverside and starts venting his sadness….
Poonkaatru thirumbumaa
Yen paatta virumbumaa
Paaraata, madiyi vachu thaalataa
Yenakoru thai madee kidaikumaa…..
Terrific lyrics from Vairamuthu ! Lets quickly understand what the poet conveys….Madiyil vachu thaaltaataa ? the aggrieved character wants a MOTHERLY AFFECTION from someone to share his agony ! splendid lyrics…..
IR – BR – VM had a wonderful equation and their chemistry was excellent
BR said once, Naan enna ninaikireno….adhai appadiyay , ennudaya Raja isayil kondu varuvaan ….. Naan avanukku sollavay vendaam……BR, in other words, says that IR understand BR’s thought vibration and quickly will come out with a precise composition !
IR, those days wrote exactly for the time required for the sequence. Without using a stop watch or music editor, he normally wrote music that exactly fitted the required timing. May be, he had a mental clock that while deciding the start cue and end cue for a music bit, was also capable of calculating the exact footage and the required timing for that footage!
Back to the song…. after Shivaji completes the first part, Poongaatru thirumbumaa….. there will be a typical IR pause , this silence was needed for the communication to reach the other end !……. its SJ this time to reciprocate for Radha …Raasaavay varuthamaa…..followed a flute resembling a Kuyil !
Now Shivaji starts looking with anxiety …who is responding to his concern ?
Again , its lovely lyrics….. Aagayam surungumaa
Engaadhey…adha ulagam thaangaadhey
Adukkumaa , Suriyan , karukkumaa !
One of the best lyrics that I have seen , giving a befitting tribute to the GREATEST ACTOR …. Equating him with a sky and Sun !
As the song moves to the second phase, both the characters exchange their thoughts …while the old man further expresses his concern, the lady , comforts by saying some soothing words…..
Indha vedhanai yaarukuthaan illai
Suga raagam sogam thaanay ( here an extended flute resembling a kuyil again !)
All through the song, the old man will be searching for that elusive lady who comforts him from a distance…..
Finally he realizes that the response is coming from a small boat / parisil which is inching towards the banks….
Now , unable to wait for the suspense any longer , he asks….
Maanay en nenjukku paal vaartha thenay…
Munnai en paarvaikku vaa vaa pennayyyyy
For which the respondent replies, esai paattu padichen naanay ! vow , terrific…. By now Shivaji , having got complete relief as someone had shared his grief, hence VM made a subtle change to the word ….
Poonkuyil yaaradhu……
Konjam paarunga pen kuyil naanunga
From now, its BR who leads the show !
There will be small small shots, showing reactions from Shivaji, Radha, the pond, the trees, the nature etc etc…all in just few seconds…..
Shivaji , showing a pleasant surprise in his face, ……
Adee nee dhaana andha kuyil ( here IR at his imaginative best ) yaar veettu sondha kuyil…. Aathaadee , manasukkula kaathaadee parandhadhey….
IMO, this ranks amongst one of the best picturisation from BR……
Another fascinating element of Nadigar Thilagam’s character ….. very few dialogues….normally he is penchant for extensive dialogue delivery….but BR chose the visual route….just few clippings, facial reaction, mini expressions ….thats all for Shivaji….
The way BR builds the bondage between the 2 characters is a story by itself ……
Whatever aspects that the old man is missing from his wife , BR gives them through the young lady ……….its not mere age or biological needs which a man or a woman looks at ….but what is real love and care for each other is paramount ……behind a successful man or an unsuccessful man , there will be a woman .....
This movie should top in the list of the greatest among the greatest characterization of THE IMAYAM OF TAMIL FILM INDUSTRY
balaji,
and at the end of his career shivaji did a memorable performance in devar mahan....what a performance!!