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Unnale Unnale is lurking at the moment, but as is typical of almost all Harris recent albums, the songs become a rage after the movie releases. It has also helped the cause of the "Master of Packaging", Harris, that the movies have been good hits. I read the review by Sureshmechnit and there are signs that this will happen with this album too.
Remember, young college girls love Harris [his music, that is ;-) ] and I suspect Unnale Unnale is a romantic theme, a typical Jeeva topic.
just heard all songs
http://rapidshare.com/files/7753410/UU.zip.html
they are only simple, and guys songs all super rehash, i feel all songs heard before, nothing new like every albem, i have no intrest nowadays on hj music, HJ change ur music, if r u arr fan, do like him, find anything new.
Thanks for the songs muzammil :D Will post my review after listening to them
r those sample songs??? All run less than 2 mins.. :?
All were :thumbsup:
muzammil......u change ur attitude 2wrds music..then can ask HJ 2 change his style
Unmaye sonna Kopam varutha Cadburyboy, me i don't have good knowladge in english, as i am in france and know only french and tamil, english i have little, so as u told me i will learn then i will change :) anyway i can change, but hj never can his music poor boy and poor his fans.
Here have full songs http://arrfans2.free.fr/forums/index...howtopic=15686
wat muzammil has told wrong here??? HJ has to come out of ARR style then we can give credit to him.......Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
then young college guys??? :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Music4Ever
so its Pokkiri Vs Unnale Unnale ?? ;)
newyz,yet to listen to the album yet...downloadin now only... wil be back after listenin...looking 4ward to the Madhushree's number... :D
college guys listen to what college girls listen to...... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
ARR was never popular amongst college girls, still he ruled whole India for the entire decade of 90.......summa kaadhu kutthadhinga....... 8-) ....
and wats this "college girls" love HJ, "small kids love vijay" ??? :?
listened to mudhal naal - starts off like Roobaroo and the pallavi is like "uyirile (VV)"..... :banghead: .........but surely this or PKMC will be the biggest hit of 2007....... :wave:
100 words on the music of Unnale Unnale!
http://itwofs.com/milliblog/
Please dont compare local dandanaka daraka daka sappai music Harris's music :wink: :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
1.JUNE PONNA
-Fantastic rendation by Krish and Arun.A melodious number with a neat
lyrics..the opening sax make us feel like having a candle light dinner with someone special...someone pointed out that the techno
that comes in the beginning and at the background sounds like the
BLUES..Well, its usuall kind of techno where we can find similar techno in many composition..exp:YSR compositions.the sax piece that comes in between simply shifting the mood.Perfect interludes..the chorus part captivating the song..The spanish words has given a great momentum.The techno beat that comes most of the time is something
usuall in HJ composition.Anniyan and VV also has it.Guess the song must have captured some romantic places in Melbourne..You'll only get to feel the magic of this song after 2-3 listenings.....
2.HELLO MISS
-It starts of with loop beat and a great hummimg/vocal by GV.Prakash..A fast number and GV's voice takes the song to another
level..I guess some of u might be mistaken to the loop of this song..It has the same background beat as in the SHAKALAKA BABY
(MUDHALVAN) INTERLUDE..well, dun worry..its commercially available loop which arrhman and Hj have used it..Even before rahman has used
it, the same loop was used in Flight IC 408 by State of Bengal and in Aint Talkin Bout Dub by Appollo 440....The baby crying sound is
something different..Must see the picturisation...the choice of the background loop is perfect with the lyrics.Surely HJ has taken a great care.Anushka has entered with a nice tweaking beat...The chorus is like village kind of tune...something nice...At the end,HJ has tried to experiment with the techno where unusual Anushka voice comes in...Surely a song to captivate girls....
3.VAIGAASI NILAVE
-Nice to see Haricharan and Madhusree combo...A heart melting song..Well, the beginning only for few seconds, HJ has used the vengelis track chariots of fire opening to the opening of this song..Guess chariots of fire is Hj's favourite...its jus 2-3secs...The tune is original..A song in a kind of fusion with a
perfect classical touch. Im really lookin for some clasical song by HJ aft Iyenggaru Veetu(Anniyan)..HJ has proven he's the best at
interludes....must listen to this awesome interlude...what a score..the song bounces in the rhythm of fusion>classical>fusion>classical....superb....A pick of the albummmm...Madhusree has sung to her utmost...
4.MUDHAL NAAL
-A foot-tapping number which takes off with a guitar riff proving HJ's skills in guitar. A nice one after Padava Padava song guitar riff from Vetri...SOME1 HAS COMPARED IT WITH ROOBAROO AND LUKKA CHUPKI GUITAR RIFF FROM RANG DE BASANTHI...HAHA!!VERY FUNNY!!WHEN I POINTED OUT NEW YORK NAGARAM AND STARING AT THE SUN BY U2 HAVE THE SAME GUITAR RIFF, PPL JUMP ON ME...WEL, TATS NOT THE MATTER...GUITAR
RIFF IS A GUITAR RIFF..IT ALWIZ SOUNDS SIMILAR...Wel,its a nice peppy tune...KK, Shalini and Mahalakshimi have created
a wave here...Nice whistle interludes...A pop kind of song...nice genre by HJ..
5.ILLAMAI ULLASAM
-A bit song...Oh my god!!What a brilliant work by HJ...Nice arrangements.The texture is so "smooth" to listen..Hats off to HJ!!
The chorus is at the best giving a boost...sure to look forward after splendid Poopol Poopol bit...
6.UNNAALE UNNAALE
-Another splendid piece...nice short rap in between...A tango music
at the end...extraordinary...
Cadbury any idea where to download the complete album ? :roll:
Wonderful review.... :clap: ..... Ilamai Ullasam and July Kaatril were my favourites :)
just heard 1 song....Madhushree's song... what a waste.... he didint use her voice maximumly....what a dissapointment for Madhushree's fans...... she didint create the MAGIC she alwiz does .... this song fades infront of her other Melodic numbers such as Mayilirage, Sandhaikozhi & Ding Dong.... :roll:
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
Her thamizh pronunciation is damn funny :oops:
The song is anyhow :thumbsup:
tamilnapster.com 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by bulb_mani
yea... by far her worse pronounsation in tamil....it beats Sandhaikozhi - AE :lol: her tamil was bad there,but this....gosh....Quote:
Originally Posted by bulb_mani
And Mudhal Naal,sounds too close to Rubaroo - RDB.....and i dun mean the guitar bit,but the pause inbetween the song,the drums that accompany the song after the pause.....hmm....
THanks for giving link villan :notworthy:Quote:
Originally Posted by villan007
Mudhal Naal,sounds too close to Rubaroo - RDB.....and i dun mean the guitar bit,but the pause inbetween the song,the drums that accompany the song after the pause.....hmm....[/quote]
Hahaha....sum serious prob....hahahaa.....wel, rubaroo was actually inspired frm INXS-Beautiful Girl....hehehehe
well, leave out ARR here.......wat do u think abt this song's guitar riff??? is it similar to Roobaroo or not ??? If ARR copies then it doesent mean and justify HJ's copy......does it??Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
if sounding similar once or twice is ok, but not always as in the case of HJ.....ARR's NYN sounded similar to u2 number but how many songs of ARR sound similar to u2??? and compare that number with HJ's similarity to ARR's numbers, u'll get to know who ARR is and who HJ is.........
also, even if they are similar guitar riffs, why isnt that HJ does it first??? y is it always ARR does it and then after 6 months/ 1year HJ has to bring it???
i never knew that all guitar riffs are similar......i didnt find it similar to any Aerosmith's riffs...... :lol:
just fnished heard all the songs....few repeats done... and overall the album is SO-SO.... i had better experience listenin to Paturi Veeran VV songs... all the songs in Unnale2 Album sounds very monotonous & jaring.... simular beats among all the songs, Hello Miss has Shakalaka Baby beats, Mudhal Naal has Rubaroo's flavour...and goodness... is there really any other MALE singers in Unnale Unnale other than Karthik??? a huge doubt :P.... JK :P neways,these r the negative parts...
the positive part is that 2 songs sounded good...Unnale Unnale & Vaigasi Nilave....i liked HJ's new attempt in composing some few diff style in 1 song...a good example Vaigasi Nilave & Hello Miss.... picturisation will help more on the songs,knowing Jeeva..... ;)
btw...isnt Krish is the winner for the Channel V's talent hunt show, Super Singer which had ARR & Adnan Saami as the judges ?!
Hahaha....sum serious prob....hahahaa.....wel, rubaroo was actually inspired frm INXS-Beautiful Girl....hehehehe[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
well...then jumping on ARR...lets look the matter on ur way...tell me ur opinion on HJ copying ARR's song that ARR copied from others?? !! and trust me...Mudhal Naal sounds more like Rubaroo than beautiful gal.... ;) .....[/b]
well...then jumping on ARR...lets look the matter on ur way...tell me ur opinion on HJ copying ARR's song that ARR copied from others?? !! and trust me...Mudhal Naal sounds more like Rubaroo than beautiful gal.... ;) .....[/b][/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
haaha.....where does robaaroo sounds like Beautiful girl??? Cardburyman, y do have to accuse ARR when there is a finger pointed at HJ??? if ARR as done it, then its ok isnt it??? dont think only ARR fans accuse HJ here, all ppl like IR fans,MSV fans are also not happy abt HJ's copy leelaigal.... :lol:
Unale Unale Album is :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Oh my god maddy..ur comments r like teaching HJ how 2 play guitar....u cant justify it as a copy when the guitar riff is diff...its electric guitar la..(base)..when its set 2 certain scale, u might be hearing it similar...trust me...well, even strange kind of women has the same kind of riff...what can we do...dun be 2 bias on HJ...if u cant find any similarities between Aerosmith's lift the try listening Scorpion's guitar riff..make sure u take it the dirt in ur ears 1st so that u can find the similarities....
wel, tis is 2 dinesh...in the case of ARR, ul say its a loop..commercially available and so on...dont u noe that arr used the same loop as in Flight IC 408 BY State of Bengal and even in Aint talkin about dub to compose Shakalaka Baby????or simply wan hide the truth ha???dun la like this ha....so cheap of u....the loop has been effectively used by HJ for Hello Miss song...
cadburyboy r ua HJ fan??? Me too :D
Even critics enjoy his music :wink:
Harris Rocks :thumbsup:
Welll....inspiration/copying has always been there and will be there forever...no doubt in it.One has 2 get some kind of input sometime in the case of composing a song...Every1 falls into that category...There r alwiz a reason why they has 2 copy or inspire from other sources...its baseless to throw stones at hj.....
simple comparison:
18 Vayathil-kadal konden(the opening)
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000468.html
Maramkothiye-Ah Ahh(the opening)
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000690.html
:rotfl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
:clap: :thumbsup:
for this topic....bring it here :Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=826918#826918
come there & see a surprise for u that im gonna post soon ! :D
well dude, i dont know whether u or me/dinesh have problems here?? :D ......that KK and AA loops are totally different......they are just beats set to same tempo........Quote:
Originally Posted by cadburyboy
Cadburyboy, the complaints that we have on HJ are not loop level......we know tat using same loops is not a copy.......we know that very well being ARR's fans.....my complaints on HJ:
1. y hasnt he bought a new sound to TFM like ARR did in 92??? when there was so much difference between IR and ARR, y isnt there so much difference between ARR and HJ sounds??
2. The resemblences are not just loops betn HJ and ARR, sometimes they are tunes as well.......tunes,arrangements - listen to "kannai katti kolladhe" from Iruvar and "love pannu" from 12b.....y the same beats and same trumpet bits in interludes?? now thats something irritating...
3. his songs are repetitive.........his songs always have a "already-heard-effect"........his rythms,arrangements, always seem to evoke same feel as his previous songs........
more importantly, dont take comments on HJ personal and to counter that dont make personal comments on us like clearing my ear dirt, calling dinesh cheap etc........ :D ......chillax, v r going to comment on HJ and not u, same way, i know u r going to comment on ARR and not us..... :D
songs can heard at www.tamilmp3tracks.com
I don't like the songs.
Maddy i have never denied that HJ inspired/copied arr...What made me 2 post my comments is because of some unconsiderable post by some members.....wel, to start of with some1 claimed that HJ has stealed arr's tune...u know wat tune????its VASEEGARA..he said when arr wanted 2 take HJ to court, HJ paid arr 30-40lakhs(nt sure the figure) for that thing...what a crap indeed...i denied with a fact..if i dont have fact then i wouldnt have bothered 2post...wel,maniratnam in his interview once quoted that when he askd arr 2 compose a tune for a particular scene in alaipayuthey, he presented both snegithene and vaseegara tune...this is true...he said vaseegara was the tune HJ composed when arr askd him to compose 4 d same scene..but mani sir choosed snegithene tune..later when HJ parted with arr, he bagged minnale project...he contacted arr and askd the vaseegara to be used in minnale..arr said, its ur own work and u could have it...the rest is history...
In another interview by H.Sridhar, he said HJ has helped a lot in arr compositions..being a keyboard player and programmer, he was allowed to improvise on certain tunes..not only that, arr treat all his team as a composer and not simply some1 who plays the notes..he always encourage his team 2come up with something better or improvise the tune that he composes..if he satisfies, then he'l accept it..Even MD.Rafi who sang Jumbalakka song said he has helped rahman to compose a particular tune in En Swasa Katre..It was a radio interview on THR Raaga(Malaysia Tamil Radio Channel)..H.Sridhar also said that in Thiruda Thiruda, the Veerapandi Kottayile yodelling was HJ's idea to arr(this is not a created story but based on what i read)..im sure sum of u must have read it..the interview was published on Hindu.net...
so, when ppl bash HJ without knowing the truth, thats wer al started...i have nothing against arr as i ws his fan b4 HJ..till now i enjoy his songs..Coming back 2 HJ&ARR, one has 2 understand what is beat, what is programming in composing tunes, the capacity of a instrument and many other aspects...we can easily fine similarities with the beats...gud example:Ace of the base and telephone manipol...there r goin 2 b a lot if we compare everything...
On ur part saying kannai kathi kollathe song and love pannu song has the same trumpet in the interludes, i feel(of course its clear) its not the same...if u wan listen again frm 2.12s-2.29s(KKK) and 2.37s-2.52s(LP)...
On saying HJ repetitive, yes i agree...he sounds repetitive..he's not he is forced 2do so but he wants it in that way...He said it in the TV interview for Deepavali 3yrs back...again even ARR was also askd about his repetitiveness in Junior Vikatan:-
Q : When IR was in top of music indudtry., he did music for 4 or 5 films at a time., but he was able to show some variety in songs. none of his 2 songs released at same time will be similar. But u r doing only one film at a time, u take lot of time but the final result -- ??
almost of all ur works look similar! Why this happens ??
A : This may be due to the fact that i use same set of instruments in all songs with different combinations !
Damn! everytime new HJ album out, must be some war going on here..
anyway i'm enjoying the song..
whoever want to fight keep on fight.. :hammer:
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Unnale Unnale - A decent album
Mudhal Mudhalaha rocks!
This is another blatant piece of lift from So Jaaon Mein - RKRathod Woh Lamhe for Vaigasi Nilave-UU. I came to know about this song from itwofs top 7 recent lists turns to one of my alltime favs. Tabla beats is throughout the song and the charanam part is a ripoff. Please check
Damn!
SJM - Woh Lamhe
Ist Charanam Middle: Hota se Mere at 3.09 Sham Savere Tabla beat
http://ww.smashits.com/music/hindi-f...woh-lamhe.html
Vaigasi Nilave:
Ist Charanam Beg: Toor Vaanam ena at 2.00 Tabla beat is ditto
Same way:
IInd Charanam Middle: Tu Mujko Chaaho 4.42
IInd Charanam Beg: : Nool Aadai ena Tabla beat is ditto Mel Aadai ena
Let me listen to other tracks... [/u]
"In another interview by H.Sridhar, he said HJ has helped a lot in arr compositions..being a keyboard player and programmer, he was allowed to improvise on certain tunes.."
Interesting tidbit. ARR, however, claims that Harris worked with him for four albums only. Given that Harris worked in Mudhalvan, did his association with ARR stretch as far back as 1993?
Secondly, your above observation subtly hints that Harris might have been the innovator of several interludes in ARR albums. How about the following example?
Listen to the song Musthafa Musthafa (Kadhal Desam) from 3:58 to 4:18. The guitar bit. Now move over to the song Azhagiya Theeye (Minnale) from 1:41 to 1:55.
Both bits are uncannily similar. Do you have any knowledge whether Harris contributed to this number in kadhal desam?
tis is rubbish.....ARR has proven beyond doubt that he has given better songs now than in 90s........where did 93 thing came here??? my uncle knows HJ thru a frnd and he was pretty jobless till 97 or 98 and used to frequent my uncle's frnds' shop........i'm sure he wasnt associated with ARR during those years......just like u cant believe that HJ stole ARR's vaseegara, we wont believe that HJ was architecht of many ARR's songs.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Music4Ever
Also, will u give credit to ARR for punnagai mannan, Agni natchithram scores to ARR bcos he was the addnl .programmer?? 8-)
cadbury, if u dont find similiraties betn Kannai katti kolladhe, Love pannu - then i guess our musical idelogies are totally different.....also, ARR has changed his sound a lot and innovated a lot during his initial days......
i havent seen a bombay theme yet from HJ or for that matter a duet or rangeela too in his first 3 years......also, he has not created earth quakes like Chikku bukku or Urvasi or a muqbla??
yes, we are talking abt a multiple oscar nominee, after all...... 8-)
[quote="Scale"]This is another blatant piece of lift from So Jaaon Mein - RKRathod Woh Lamhe for Vaigasi Nilave-UU. I came to know about this song from itwofs top 7 recent lists turns to one of my alltime favs. Tabla beats is throughout the song and the charanam part is a ripoff. Please check
Damn!
SJM - Woh Lamhe
Ist Charanam Middle: Hota se Mere at 3.09 Sham Savere Tabla beat
http://ww.smashits.com/music/hindi-f...woh-lamhe.html
Vaigasi Nilave:
Ist Charanam Beg: Toor Vaanam ena at 2.00 Tabla beat is ditto
Same way:
IInd Charanam Middle: Tu Mujko Chaaho 4.42
IInd Charanam Beg: : Nool Aadai ena Tabla beat is ditto Mel Aadai ena
Let me listen to other tracks... [/u][/quote
Oh..scale...The tabla beat is the prob rite?????wel, again another comparison:-
1.What about the tabla beat that comes throughout the song Kunnurupuchatti in Velai composed by YSR and Dolna song beat in Parasuram(Some might claim this ws composed far early)
2.What about Naadhavinu(Thirupugazh) and En veetu thoothatil....Both carnatic rite?????tabla beat us usual rite....
3.Vaanthin meethu(bu Ramalinga swamigal arutpa) and sowkyamaa kanne(sangamam)
4.This one is the another one(not tabla)...listen to Thump of Daud Mission impossible theme music....
5.Someone quoted about interludes...yes its same as kadal desam one....so, wat it is?????u should compare Amutha song interlude and Amelie movie tune...what a lift!!!!!
"Someone quoted about interludes...yes its same as kadal desam one....so, wat it is?????u should compare Amutha song interlude and Amelie movie tune...what a lift!!!!!"
You are asking "so what?" ?
This is significant because IF Harris was not the contributor of that bit but used it in one of his songs he certainly becomes culpable of lifting. Even more significant in light of this conclusion is that his admirers cannot anymore take refuge in the excuse that Harris worked with ARR and so contributed these bits, which he is reusing.