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Moderators Why dont you do something on new/old hubbers posting this type of messagesQuote:
Originally Posted by Scale
rajdes, ennappa enna paththi edholaam solra, do you know me? :-)
like you pointed out, sometimes to counter illogical ARR-bashing you have to use their own (il)logic :-) When they talk about RDB as if they were around in the 70s (with what they have read in magazines) I guess I can do the same, more so because I was a regular VVB listener of Hindi songs in the late 70s/early 80s although I wasnt probably old enough to measure impacts.I assume some of these guys werent even born then.
But seriously, when someone says "ARR is making waves in TFM" or "RDB had a huge impact in HFM" you dont expect them to quantify their statements completely right? Its just a figurative way of speaking.
To a certain extent the "impact" that was I was talking of Rahman, I have realized or felt it in terms of sales reports/kind of directors he works with in HFM/coverage that he gets in press/"vayatherichchal" comments of his HFM counterparts etc.
That he did all this in a handful of albums without being a Mumbaiite, or worse being one amongst the South MDs who have traditionally had trouble breaking the barrier, to me felt like it demanded more points. Maybe if I had just said "Rahman had a big impact" instead of saying "bigger" impact(which sounded like as if I was directly comparing impacts) it would have come across better.
kangal kandadhu song from OKK was really superb that too the situation when that song comes. really great!!anybody who had watched the movie wud know what i am saying.infact all the songs were simply great.but i wonder y it didint get the recognoition it deserved.
anyway my pick wud also be mayiliragae.after long time arr at his best
is rahman acting in music videos?
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2005/10/14/s...1400280700.htm
Sanjeevi!
Were you the moderator here?
Ur unwarranted entry here reminds me of the "Oranguttan". Majority of them were seriously injured breaking their hands & legs trying similar activities!!
Act maturely! :D.
Dont count on that, his attempt to look like Michael Jackson in "vaande maataram" was a bad attempt, for rahamns career its not good to make a fool out of him by acting on movies or appear on 1 song.
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Originally Posted by interz
shivaji miss-ana kobam appadiye theriyudhu........he looked gorgeous in vande mataram and he was looking better than dhanush and simbu in that hindu photo......... :lol: ....
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Originally Posted by Scale
Highlight of AIBI is YSR
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/17375.html
came across this,this is a 2001 interview,and lately Hj claimed he worked for ARR for 7 years... :roll:
But how did the first film happen? We ask him a bit about his history in Kollywood and about reports that say he was Rahman's associate.
I JUST played for him. I was a keyboard player. I have been a keyboard player for 20-25 music directors. When Mr.Ravichandran, director of `Majunu', was looking for a music director, I was busy as a keyboard player. I couldn't make up my mind. When I knew Cee (I) TV was producing the film, I knew it would be a big opening,'' Harris recalls.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2...s/0902070f.htm
Exaxtly, the songs of okk are quite good, I don't know why it is getting bad press here. Of course, A Aah, is better, but that that doesn't mean Okk is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by karthik_sa2
"Maybe if I had just said "Rahman had a big impact" instead of saying "bigger" impact(which sounded like as if I was directly comparing impacts) it would have come across better."
This is exactly what I meant. I wouldnt contest any fan-camp sweeping statements . I only bothered to question you because I know (in about 7 years of reading this forum) that you are more committed to sensible discussions and this sort of out-oof-the-blue illogic was uncharacterstic:-)
I agree on this:
We have to state without reservations that of all TFM personalities, it is ARR who has made a dent or impact on North Indian sensibilities.
This however doesnt automatically make him a superior or even a equal of previous TFM greats like MSV, IR etc. What places him in this elite pantheon is the quality of his music, and not the adulation of North Indian music fans.To quote the latter as a reason for his greatness speaks more about the person making the statement.
and vijay, I know about you purely from posts in this forum. Atleast, in the early days, around '98-'99 , there WAS a vijay with similar views -if my assumption is that you are that same vijay, I know a little about you through this forum. Okay, lets have a recognition test - Can you recognise the term "veliayathavan"? :-)
rajdes, I was partially kidding, recognition test ellam thevai illa:-) Of course I remember your posts and most other regular DFers from that period. But still you made what I thought was a confident guess based on just my current posts. What with many DFers from that period no longer frequenting this forum it took me a while to ascertain that you are actually that same raj and not someone else.
:D Hey buddies ARR is grown with name and fame. May be it is fading now. This is a competition only between HJ and YSR. HJ is giving music to movies under big directors :lol: . Naturally it is a great hit. Yuvan's arindhum ariyamalum was hit only and only because of his Music which is extremely awesome. HJ keeps on repeating the same music. One gets bored after listening to it after quite a few times. YSR's music is completely different. :) One who listens to his music again and again will be more eager to listen to it again.
Welcome Sundar12345.
Yet another YSR fan.
but these 2 supposedly better-than-ARR mds came up with a blank when confronted with a average A Ah by our master.....wat do u say for this??? :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundar12345
Going thinking that A Ah is a big hit are faking themselves. Ghajini is the winner
yes i agree with sunder12345.ysr far better than hj..
http://www.kumudam.com/kumudam/231105/pg17.php
Bharadwaj sema kaduppil irukkAr...avaraiyum indha Attaththil sEththukkungaLEn...
aiyoo u have to be registered to read that article...Bharathwaj is not that good. looking at audio/cd sales it clearly indicates, ARR, HJ, YSR are the most popular ones, once in a while VS pops up with great songs. Even a hardcore fan of VS like me admits this. IT must be true
Another belly-boiling interview from Bharadwaj :-) At this rate the man could end up with an ulcer. But a comical read nevertheless.
what did he say man???? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
dinesh, Bharadwaj is happy and sad at the same time that while Pa.Vijay and Chithra got awards for the Autograph song, he didnt. He also claims that he doesnt care much about the fact that he doesnt get recognition for many good songs of his and he doesnt go out and seek recognition(although interviews like these belie his assertions). On present day music, he thinks new sounds dont make good music.
I remember one of his previous interviews where he said he has 6 films in hand to Rahman's 4 that year and still no one talks about him when discussing about the numero uno MD :-)
real sick fellow :wink: ..i even remember he teased ARR for bad sales of KKS...Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
interz, the registration doesn't cost anything:-)
yuvan,s kalvanin kadhali is rocking.songs r great.surely it will be yet another hit from yuvan.
ARR is a legend, he's a genius, uncomparable, revolutionzed Tamil music, took Tamil music to International level....
HJ is very good too, a good successor maybe to ARR....I don't want to see him as a competitior....
Rest all just normal music directors....
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ARR will rock in SIVAJI !!!
all the 3 songs r really superb!!
incomparable!
BUT I DON'T LIKE THE TOPIC!
hw can u compared AR RAHMAN with HJ & YSR!!
HJ & YSR r too young but damn talented.
compare HJ with YSR that will be OK!
ARR IS TOO GOOD!!!
WHICH SONGS ? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by vincent
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Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
1. Mayilirage --- A Aa
2. Uyire --- Totti Jaya
3. Kathal Enbathu --- Oru Kallooriyin Kathai
Maybe they should have had Suttum Vizhi song for HJ...This song and Mayiliragae are my favorites this year...Both very romantic and mesmerizing !!
And BTW, HJ and YSR can't be compared either....HJ is a class higher, though not equal to the genius ARR !!
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ARR will rock in SIVAJI !!
HJ is running out of ideas. Repeated tunes and repeated music tells the true.
YSR is the real musician after IR, ARR. YSR is currently no. 1 amoung youngsters :thumbsup:
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Sanjeevi, I know you're a big fan of IR....Looks like you're a big fan of YSR too....But just look at this year alone, if not the past ... HJ had two blockbusters in ANNIYAN and GHAJINI....And both the songs and the BGM were rocking...And THOTTI JAYA, even though was not that big a hit, the songs were still hit....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Why hasn't YSR worked in such big movies yet? That itself explains who's more viable in the market...Add to that, HJ is the second highest paid MD after the MAN ARR himself.....So clearly, he's the second favorite MD of the Tamil movie industry now.....Shankar himself has shown that HJ is his 2nd choice. And we all know Shankar only prefers the best technicians for his movies ....
Maybe this is just my opinion...But HJ rocks !!!
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ARR will rock in SIVAJI !!!
[quote="m_23_bayarea"]Why hasn't YSR worked in such big movies yet? That itself explains who's more viable in the market...Add to that, HJ is the second highest paid MD after the MAN ARR himself.....So clearly, he's the second favorite MD of the Tamil movie industry now.....Shankar himself has shown that HJ is his 2nd choice. And we all know Shankar only prefers the best technicians for his movies ....
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I wish YSR does not go after big banners/directors. His real strength so far is, working with new young directors who come up with different themes/ideas. I want him to stay that way.
Regarding Shankar: Shankar has been running out of ideas and I don't think he will be as dominant as he was before in the coming months. So even if Shankar approaches ysr (that is 0.00001% possibility) to do a movie, he should opt out.
the truth fact here is... YSR makes a song hit WITHOUT big banners,actors with him.CHeck out Arindhum Ariyamalum,who is there for the movie to be a hit man? but YSR made the film a hit with his music,it shows his music power is really good here. where else in the other hand HJ,he alwiz gets a big banner,actors,dirs to make his songs popular. remember anniyan audio was a flop b4 the movie released and he needed the movie to popularised his songs.Ghajini goes that way too,the movie made the songs a hit.b4 that only AH Aah songs were ruling.ARR case is another,his songs when released it would be the biggest hit at that time,and when the film releases,it goes down. :roll:
and let me tell u 1 thing,shankar has LOST IT with anniyan coz he didint show his true skills ther & just repeated his previous films just to make sure he has a HIT. Mabby in Shivaji he will show his skill again coz he is relaxed he has a hit now. :wink:
What are you talking Dinesh? Kumari Sukumari is one of the best in recent times, acknowledged by almost all that I have talked with. The audience was as varied as Keralites, Sri Lankans, Tamilians, and even Maharashtrian. The moment that song is played everyone enjoys it thoroughly. The other songs were superb too. Anniyan is an unqualified success for Harris. No doubt about that.
Music4ever,Anniyan's audio sales didnt pick up until after the movie release and the songs were played repeatedly. Even HJ acknowledged and hoped that even though the responnse was lukewarm he expected the audio to pickup after the film release. Even on the web the popular opinion was that it was an underwhelming effort from HJ, nowhere near what ARR had given for Shankar before. Anyways I am not one to judge an album solely by its commercial success, but this is to just answer your point about the great response you are talking about. Personally, it was just an above average effort from HJ I thought. Anniyan's songs too reminded of several of HJ's and ARR's earlier numbers.
Vijayr, from a critic's point of view presumably, Anniyan songs may not be all that great. However, several day-to-day common folks seem to be enraptured by many of Anniyan's songs and these include non-tamil chaps, those who did not have access to the TV etc. There is something in songs such as Randakka randakka, and Kumari Sukumari which people are able to enjoy in the first hearing itself. I am not conjuring this up, just saying what I have observed even as recently as yesterday, when a guy who listened to the Kumari number the first time said that it is lovely. Maybe Shankar Mahadevan's voice but I think it is the whole package -- tune, orchestration, singing, not to forget the sound quality. Let me put it this way: I played both Kumari and Varaha nadhi karai oram one after the other. It is HJ's that people found more appealing. Indeed, I love varaha nadhi karai oram very much and expected that others would feel the same way. But the opinion was the other way. It might be because Kumari is a new and topical song while the other one is an old number.
may i know is those 'people' u let them hear varaga nadhi & kumari ? Hj fans? :lol: kumari is a new age kinda song whereelse Varaga nadhi is an old folk tamil song. in my case its different... during a show in our skool,they played anniyan songs...as u know the indians there played & all the non-indians started making noise... [which means they r insulting us tamil for our tamil soungs]...and then they took it out & played Boys...no 1 complained.... i was really shock tought they would also complain after knowing its a tamil song,but they just shook thier head & enjoyed it without making noises....
an album released 2 years ago sounds much much better than just an album released few months back.... this clearly shows what shankar missed in aniyan,let us take it this way,let Shivaji songs released,and u will know what is missing in anniyan,until then,enjoy anniyan ya... :)
actually kumari song is not bad....but i never thought it was that great as what u think...it fades off easily when u compare to its original version En Uyir Tozhiye - KKS