As long as I am not a superiority complexed hindian I don't care!Quote:
Originally Posted by indian224080
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As long as I am not a superiority complexed hindian I don't care!Quote:
Originally Posted by indian224080
Same old Dravid Crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie The Dutch
Guys looks like there is too much of vedic pollution in this thread, hey vedics please look some where else for your stupid vedic propoganda. We like to have have an academic discussion here. Sanskrit is just one of the zillions of offsprings of tamil, let us not waste our time on just one, that too an artificial language fit only for liturgy, whose litreature just talks of dogmatism and nothing else, the only exception being the utilitarian concepts of soma and beef recipe.
Yeah yeah yeah and so on and so forth.
The crow poachers and lungi wearers got a language from stones,water and sand and then claimed that as tamil.
BTW is crow curry mentioned in any tamil literature?
What abt Chennai sanga tamizh. Is that also mentioned as a classical language somewhere?
Seems like tamil mated with Zillions of languages to giving Zillion offsprings.
che che che arent there any watchers of tamil, that you people are making movies and songs for others? or has your balloon of so-called patriotism bursted?Quote:
Do you really thing that these movies are made for Tamils? Obviously not. These movies/songs are made for Non-Tamils. But the problem is that all these non Tamils think that they know English.
you and vedas? please stop blasting your comments. This is turning into another useless thread after your coming, as there is nothing new to learn as you are posting your idiotic good-for-nothing posts.Quote:
We don't have to lie about the cow at all! It is very well written in the Vedas. The Vedas explain how to drive a cattle through the prairie and what to do with a hot iron nail.
Just a comment:
Iron was introduced to mankind through the vedas some eons ago. At the time of copper and bronze when the iron was absolutely unknown the vedas existed and the hot iron nail was defined and described
This is the most foolish thing to say about vedas. what do you know about vedas? we know about tolkappiyam, silappadhikaram, manimekhalai and valluvar`s teachings and are ready to quote some. can you do that in for vedas? so better stop condemning things which are beyond the limitatios of people with no folds in their brains.Quote:
Guys looks like there is too much of vedic pollution in this thread, hey vedics please look some where else for your stupid vedic propoganda. We like to have have an academic discussion here. Sanskrit is just one of the zillions of offsprings of tamil, let us not waste our time on just one, that too an artificial language fit only for liturgy, whose litreature just talks of dogmatism and nothing else, the only exception being the utilitarian concepts of soma and beef recipe.
Is there anything worth in the Vedas to quote?Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
Why don't you first count your folds if there are any?
There is a lot in vedas to quote but what is the use? You wont understand as you dont want to. Secondly about folds? see my posts and yours and you will know by yourself who has the most.Quote:
Is there anything worth in the Vedas to quote?
Why don't you first count your folds if there are any?
oops... sorry. if only you had folds, this would be of use.
Which thamizh told you this?Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyonika
Or you are bullshitting with your BIG MOUTH???? :twisted:
shoyonika " There is a lot in vedas to quote but what is the use? "
You being a women are forbidden from vedas, you accept that you have not read it. Do you know what people call those that talk about what they themselves do not know... I call them fanatics.
You have written hundreds of line since I asked you to quote what is worthy in vedas, are you still trying to find that worthy stuff in vedas, belive me you would kick the bucket before that.
Hi FSG
how is the concept of reincarnation dealt in the Tamil siddha lit, all I know is there is no mention of that in vedas just like yoga and meditation.
Heard that the combination of yogic lit in Gita and Patanjali's yogasutra would not be even one third of Thirumandiram, can you please elaborate on that.
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You have written hundreds of line since I asked you to quote what is worthy in vedas, are you still trying to find that worthy stuff in vedas, belive me you would kick the bucket before that.
Ofcourse I never deny myself forbidden from Vedas and so are you too. But did I ever mention myself not listening to Vedic discourses? That proves you are in such a hurry to prove your points that you do least research. Had you done enough research, you would have been fit enough to chew your own cud instead of others chewing it for you and transfering it into your mouth.Quote:
You being a women are forbidden from vedas, you accept that you have not read it. Do you know what people call those that talk about what they themselves do not know... I call them fanatics.
You have written hundreds of line since I asked you to quote what is worthy in vedas, are you still trying to find that worthy stuff in vedas, belive me you would kick the bucket before that.
I wont do that. Otherwise even if I bullshit, I know you will eat it all up. :lol:Quote:
Which thamizh told you this?
Or you are bullshitting with your BIG MOUTH????
Everything in Vedas is worthy, but what worth are you interested in? physical? spiritual? monetary?Quote:
You have written hundreds of line since I asked you to quote what is worthy in vedas
shoyonika wrote "Everything in Vedas is worthy, but what worth are you interested in? physical? spiritual? monetary?"
Leave the choice to you, whatever you consider as the most worthy in vedas, please quote here. I am very interested in it, just because never seen it before.
Ill reply soon and thanks for taking interest in Vedas. Bye. :)
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Originally Posted by shoyonika
Of course you do. Seems like got "immunized" with lies and so could not realize what is what.Quote:
I wont do that.
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Nalla maadukku oru soodu illai. It is necessary only for people of your kind.Quote:
Of course you do. Seems like got "immunized" with lies and so could not realize what is what.
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Sure ! I may write in detail in relevant thread. Due to my held up, I could not visit forum frequently. In this thread I have some more messages to be delivered.Quote:
Originally Posted by mahadevan
Sanskrit developed in South India. Many Sanskrit versions are copied form of tamil arts. In fact Upanishads are against of Vedhic Traditions. We may deal in relevant thread.
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Vedas and Upanishads, though Upanishads are centuries younger than Vedas, preach the same meaning of Vedic Mysticism. Vedas are not taken from any dravidian languages, in fact the old literature in dravidian languages are based on the principles of Vedas, including the legends explained in the dravidian literature. Samskrith as I already mentioned was the refined form of Vedic language(language used in the Vedas). It later turned out into classical language best suited for poems and plays. The Vedas are basically taught mouth to mouth, so they never needed a script to write the Vedas. They were retained through Guru-Shishya Parampara until the advent of newer forms of literature in the dravidian culture. They were codified and written in around 1800BC to 1500BC.
Hi Shoyonika, appreciate your acceptance that vedas are written in vedic and not sanskrit. But you are saying that Sanskrit is a classical languagae, that is not true. To get a classical status a language has to qualify certain criteria, sanskrit does not qualify, that is the reason that even the Indian government has not declared sanskrit as a classical language. Infact Indian govt has a less stringent criteria for that.
You said "They were codified and written in around 1800BC to 1500BC" any proof for that ?
The earliest writing known in India is of Tamil and it is scientifically dated at before 1000BC, the earliest known sanskrit writing is around 200 AD (yeah it is AD and not BC)
a few questions..
some for the sanskritisists and some for tamils..
I wonder what the root of the word "sanskrit" is?
If it is the "devabhasha" who are / were the devas?
what are the different types of poetry available in sanskrit?
If sanskrit is an invented language, who invented it and why?
If sanskrit / tamil is derived from the other, why does it have a different script / grammar?
Be it Tamil / Sanskrit, any foreigner would immediately accept and appreciate the supremacy of indian languages and culture. But, why is it that indians believe foreigners (who can never learn properly any of the complex indian languages) like Max Mueller and have such hatred and filth over the other indians?
If these so called acredited universities are trustworthy, why do they change their theories quite often ( aryan invasion , aryan migration, no aryan invasion, no migration ...)
The devas are missing but the basha is around!Quote:
Originally Posted by manyvan2000
Friends,
Deva basha and claims are meaningless.
Tamil Bakthi movement also claims Lord Siva made Tamil.
Tamil in its modernity uses One thired of its words Burrowed from Sanskrit and half that from Pali and Pragrit.
Devapriya.
Thanks for accepting thatQuote:
Deva basha and claims are meaningless.
Some might claim, but the average Tamil know that Tamil is a natural language with it its own evolutionary historyQuote:
Tamil Bakthi movement also claims Lord Siva made Tamil.
You got it wrong here buddy, from your posts it looks like you are confused between telegu and tamil, you might speak telugu at home and see those words in tamil too and conclude as above. The truth is sanskrit is a liturgical language that borrowed heavily from Tamil and prakrits both in vocabulary and grammer, though the creators of the language did give it a shape around 200 AD, the language never took off, but for in the imaginary world of a very few twice born.Quote:
Tamil in its modernity uses One thired of its words Burrowed from Sanskrit and half that from Pali and Pragrit.
ye ye never took off, thats true, and mind you, never will it take off from the world, because neither did Samskrith beg for a classical language tag from the government, nor did the very few twice born ever need to start a movement to plead people to accept the existence of Samskrith, unlike what happened with the other language :lol:Quote:
The truth is sanskrit is a liturgical language that borrowed heavily from Tamil and prakrits both in vocabulary and grammer, though the creators of the language did give it a shape around 200 AD, the language never took off, but for in the imaginary world of a very few twice born.
very intresting topic! :clap: :thumbsup:
keep going FSG! :)
A language could not stop to evolve... as the universe... :roll:
Look how much the modern Tamil was englished..
Another thing that should be sure is that everything evolve from something :D
Every human languages must have for root an unique and primitive human language... :roll:
A few are telling that devas are missing. If you watch closely there is a Tamil community in Tamilnad called Devars(Gods). But their magical powers are missing???!!!
But these devas within your contemplation (DWYC) are fighters and are more like the samurais. So, when we talk of DWYC we have to talk about their sword power rather than occu.lt powers, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by arul_satish