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Though bike and cycle are synonyms, but when the nature of cycle becomes too regressive, bike is definitely a better alternative as a tangible award to the one who is seriously stuck in regressive mode for too long. Therefore, yes, I think you will be doing justice by announcing a tangible award to the most entangled and thus to the most deserving debater. :wink: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by hehehewalrus
see the cruel outcome of astrology....
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article....date=7/21/2005
And think about these ignorant fellows like Bush and Manmohan Singh who are planning to set up a joint mechanism on disaster management when they can easily 'avert' these disasters by simply using some of the intellect available in our country such as.... :twisted: :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
In response to those who sought from me...
...The Present Address of my Consultant-Astrologer... at Chennai, India...
...whom I am much impressed with ... due to tremendous Results invariably... not only for me but also one and all my Friends & Relatives
Some of the Hubbers were repeatedly requesting me to inform the present Address of my Astrologer,...
.. about whom I had narrated in this thread on my several exemplary Life-experiences in Astrology... quite meaningfully and highly worthy for my Success and extrication from serious Life-problems.
I am unable to even imagine how precarious and miserable, my Life would have become... had I not approached this pious Lady-Astrologer of high and rare competence..
I recently met at her new address in Chennai...India.
Although not much popular... but far and far better than several popular Astrologers.. with whose predictions I could compare parallelly and ultimately discern her true professional worth ....irrespective of Popularity.
She is a simple Lady... put up in a single small room.. does not demand any fees but just accepts whatever is offered...
...always cheerful... patiently and convincingly answers all the questions... incredibly solves our problems Astrologically....
...advises the Astrological-Parihaaram or the right Gems as alternative/additional remedy, being an Expert in Mani-Sasthram too.
Let not anybody suspect me... nor my intentions.... She is neither my Relative nor Friend... nor of any dubious concern...
..and so I am in no way interested in her, other than that she is JUST MY ASTROLOGICAL-CONSULTANT.... and NOTHING BEYOND.
My only wish is.. by means of her timely advice of high values....
..Let others also GAIN the BEST ADVANTAGE BY MY INFORMATION... as much as I had in Life..
She is an IMMACULATE LADY OF HIGH CALIBRE....WELL-DEPENDABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY.... but a "Kudaththukkulh-Vilhakku"
My only request to my Friend-Hubbers is...we being the Gentlemen of Calibre, should not exploit her good principle of NOBLE-IDEAL... not to sell her knowledge, but to only serve the seekers...
And so we must voluntarily pay her the due fees what we have to...with any Astrologer worth the name at Chennai, in the present days.
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CONSULTATION FEES:---
Such Minimum fees in vogue... as at present Chennai are:--
General Consultation... Rs.100 (One Hundred) per Horoscope
Additional Questions / Matrimonial-match ...Rs. 20 (Twenty only).. Each Match.(Over Rs.100)
Making-out a New Horoscope... Rs. 500. ( Five Hundred only)
Checking up the Veracity of existing Horoscope : Rs.300 (Three Hundred only)
__________________________________________________ ___
ADDRESS & PHONE :---
Ms. GEETHANJALI,
32 / 8, Jaani Basha Street (Near Ellis Road)
Off. Thiruvallikeni High Road,
THIRUVALLIKENI.
CHENNAI - 600005.
Cell Phone No.--- 9444- 431353. (Rpt: 9444 43 1353)
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Wish you all the Best...
...AS MUCH ABUNDANT BENEFIT... AS I GOT ...by this Consultant.
Affectionately,
Sudhaama.
To the KIND ATTENTION of those...Who are ANTI-ASTROLOGY.
Dear friends, You need not accept my Statements... in favour of Astrology...
...nor believe like me that... Astrology as the GOD-MADE SCIENCE for the Benefit of Mankind ...
... ever applicable for Mankind... deeming it as the OPENING-BALANCE on our Life....
...Rather the Astrological-Horoscope is... the LIFE-BALANCE-SHEET ... presented by God.... at the time of our Birth...
...based on which people are expected to start towards their future..
But HOROSCOPIC PREDICTIONS ....ARE NOT THE BOUNDEN LAW...to be fenced-within....
...NOR NEEDED TO BE ACCEPTED AS....ORDAINED DESTINY. No Not at all.
But it is a fact that sometimes the Astrological-Predictions MAY FAIL TOO.... either towards the Plus or Minus side.
Because what One performs in the present Life... will DEFINITELY WORK IN CONJUNCTION with the past Commitments of ones own previous births.
So please try with any good Astrologer of your choice...WITH AN OPEN-MIND...and then tell me your experience.
In YOUR OWN INTERESTS...I will answer you... IF YOU STILL CONTINUE TO BE...."ANTI"
Sudhaama,
Nice to see you back after a long time. :D
I think we can make this thread a wonderful place by having nice discussions on various things in astrology. Even we can make this one a special thread for giving / posting the basic things in Astrology.
I belive........
past CAN BE PREDICTED.
Astrology, numerology, palmistry, naadi etc CAN PREDICT UR PAST LIFE............
PAST CAN BE ANALYSED, CRYSTAL CLEAR GUESSED BY wonderful astrologers.
BUT............. FUTURE is definitely in our hands.
WE CAN CHANGE DESTINY. 1000 percent we can.
Beg to differ. I do appreciate your boldness in tackling the problems and your approach to life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
FUTURE is like a dark,dense forest. You are just a trespasser travelling in that dense forest.
Things like Astrology are like candles. They can just clear the darkness surrounding you over a distance. You can use these things for a happy,smooth travel in the forest without hurting yourself by having run on a thorn, sharp stone etc. (These are all troubles in our life about which we have no idea).
Astrology is not a sun to clear the entire darkness surrounding you. You can get the help and that is it. The candle just acts as a compliment. Main fuel comes from your own efforts. CAndle is just being used to drive away the darkness.. But ultimately it is you, who travells. Hope I am clear.
In what way are u different now?
I thought I said the same in 2 lines :roll:
You have misunderstood my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Your efforts should not become wasted ones. You can keep on searching the way urself and with your own patience. In that process, you will hurt yourself. The wonderful candle provided by GOD helps you to remove yourself from those sufferings. That is what I meant there.
I referred it as a compliment that reduces ur sufferings and eliminates unnecessary things like searching for something in complete darkness.
Both the things must be there
For u,
"தெய்வத்தால் ஆகாதெனினும் ........... முயற்சி தன் மெய்வருத்தக் கூலி தரும் !!
Could not recollect the exact one.
What is there to PREDICT on the past?...Since already Well-known and seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
"Prediction" means... Foreseeing the UNKNOWN by means of Astrological-Science... the Unparallel-Divine-Truth.
Everyone MUST BELIEVE... with Self-Confidence... and by means of AUTO-SUGGESTION that..." I WILL ACHIEVE...I AM HAPPY AND WILL BE HAPPY".
Astrology does not speak different...but helps us as an AUXILIARY-KNOWLEDGE for Guidance towards our meaningful future, the Unknown.
Astrology too wants and forewarns us to CHANGE OUR DESTINY... IF WE CAN..
..by means of our Good-deeds as well as WARD-OFF from the avoidable future IMPEDIMENTS.
..BY TAKING STOCK OF... WHERE WE ARE by the dint of Previous- BIRTH-POTENTIALITIES.
Hi Sudhaama,
I send u a pm, waiting for the reply. thank you
Yes please Mr. Kelly... Replied today by Pm.... Which must serve your purpose I believe.
Hi,
I have a never answered question about astrology...Can any one of you help me..Is there any posiblity in astrology to predict that a guy will pass away if he marries a particular girl??? Just with the Guys horoscope only
Good Question !. ..Not a NEVER-ANSWERED QUESTION... Since many many Astrologers had already ventured to find out the answer by Researches. I was once upon a time MAD MAD TO GET AN ANSWER TO THIS QUEST.Quote:
Originally Posted by swarna
..Finally I got the Clear Answer... PROVEN CORRECT BY EXPERIENCE TOO.
But... the pity is, some of the present day Astrologers are themselves getting confused unnecessarily and they carry forward further confusions and complications amongst the public.
No doubt it is a...Question of UNENDING-DISPUTES amongst Astrologers themselves now-a-days...
However Got WELL-CONVINCED by me.... with the authentic answers by several Scholars, especially the renowned Expert Dr. B.V. Raman, Editor of Astrological-Magazine of India, Bangalore... I put forth the points here.
(1) Astrological predictions are based on Horoscopes... which is based on the Birth-data, varying from person to person. Horoscopes are NOT THE LAW OF DESTINY....but only a Balance-sheet of previous births accountable for the current birth.
(2) Future Business in an organisation does not depend on the previous years Assets and Liabilities alone... but based on it, HOW IT PERFORMS AND DEVELOPS FURTHER during the subsequent years... So is the case of a Horoscope and the Personal-Life- predictions based on it.
(3) One person's Horoscope can ... No doubt... be influenced by another person's Horoscope, if he / she is very closely associated in ones activities as partner or the like. So Wife or Business-partner or Brother/Sister, Children fall under this purview. But such influences CANNOT SUPERSEDE OR OVER-RULE ones Horoscope, since every Horoscope possesses its own individual power or strength. So to say if ones Horoscope shows long life... just by marriage with a lady of weak Horoscope, the Husband will not be victmised to die nor his life-span can be reduced or eventually changed or transformed into a Poor one... NEGATING THE ORIGINAL STRENGTH of the Husband holding already a good indication of his Lifespan, by birth...even prior to coming into a new contact.
(4) There are only a few factors which can Supersede or Overpower the Original-Horoscopic predictions. They are...
(a) Ones Own arduous Counter-endeavour with strong Self-Will, working against the Evil-effects of the Horoscope
(b) Parihaarams Astrologically or by Manthras combined with the Relevant Social-service..
(c) Mani-Saasthra fortification by wearing the specific Gems relevant to the Planets prescribed according to the individuals Horoscopes.
(b) God's Grace bestowed in response to fervent Prayers.
Swami Thyagaraja says....."Graha-balam yaemi, Raama Anugraha-balamae balam"...
...meaning.. "If and when God's grace is available to a person, what Planetary might can overpower?"
I know several cases where the Evil-effects predicted for the Husband, Wife, Father-in-law, Mother-in-law...or the like, by means of marriage alliances... have all been nullified by
... such positive approaches..of Healthy Counter-forces.... especially by means of
... LARGE-HEART...coupled with WILL-POWER.... God is Great.
Thank you so much Sudhaama.
LOVERS' HOROSCOPES UNMATCHING for WEDDING : Solution?
Sorry to hear the pitiable plight of you the INNOCENT.... It is all because of some Quack-Astrologers.Quote:
Originally Posted by swarna
Let those people of the Groom's side imagine... if it were the case of their daughter having a Dosha-Jaathakam... what will they do?
Will not get her married at all? .
....Or get married to a husband of utter Dosha-Jaathakam, also being an unmatching Husband to live with, by propensities and basic outlook on life?
God has created every human being fit enough to be married with someone matching... Who is that someone, is the Humans job to search out and settle. There only Horoscope-matching helps.
The Best Horoscopes as well as the best Horoscopic-match... was Rama and Seetha.... Then why did they suffer?.. In fact their married life was almost a Trajedy. Why?
I would suggest you not to leave the matter ... BLINDLY YIELDING to IGNORANCE AND ADAMANCE of the other side.. which should not be allowed to be an impediment for your Chosen alliance.
If you and your fiance like each other well... You can go ahead with the support of any of your staunch well-wisher elders.
However for the sake of clarification based on Reasoning, you may contact any other good Astrologer of your choice, who is capable of convincing the opponents Astrologically.
I know several cases where the Lovers... whose Horoscopes were TOTALLY UNMATCHING... got married of their own accord...ignoring such objections... and LIVING HAPPILY overcoming all the Astrological anomalies and weaknesses, by taking the due precautionary measures as I mentioned above.
If required you can take the help of my Astrologer Ms Geethanjali at Thiruvallikeni, Chennai, whose Address and Phone # I had already furnished hereabove a few weeks back. She is an Expert in handling such Astrological disputes.
Wish You Success with a Happy married Life of YOUR BEST CHOICE. !!!
Significance of TAMIL-NEW-YEAR .. Inaugural DAY OF SUCCESS.!!!
Vide my Posting...in another relevant Thread under the above Title..
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...2979ec6#495906
Importance for SUN in the Tamilian-Culture...including their Calendar.
The main factor of Tamilian Calendar is the SUN... which is the Royal-planet ruling over... not only all the other Eight planets...
...but also the central-force keeping the whole universe under equilibrium and balance of varying operations of one and all the celestial bodies in the space... astronomically too.
The Tamil year duration has been reckoned as 365.25 days, the time taken by Earth for one cycle around the Sun, the Central-pivotal-force supreme.
The date of entry of Sun into Mesha(aries) house... which is its location of EXALTED STATUS (Uccha)... falls on or about April-14 every year...
..which has been taken as the first day of the year as well as the Month Chiththirai....linking Moon position also with it. So to say the Pournami falls on Chiththirai star-day in the month of Chithirai, as is the basis for all other months too. I have elaborated on this point with full details, in my last posting
The Sun's Entry-time on the first day of Chithirai month is taken as the Zero-degree....the starting point for one circle of 360 degrees... along the course of all the 12 houses(Each of 30 degrees)
So the Tamil-calendar is the best one comparatively in the world... Scientifically and by Religious aspects too....as I had already justified.
Right from ancient days...Tamil-culture extols the Sun-planet highly. And the Sun was worshipped as Supreme God by Tamilians.
Silappadhikaaram... praises and prays the Sun-God as... JNAAYIRHU POATRUDHUM..!!!
Swarna,Quote:
Originally Posted by swarna
Sorry for the delay. I was a bit sad to hear that too.
To be precise, There are ways in Astrology to predict whether a girl's partner will face a death if he marries her. But for analysing the result exactly, We must do lot of things. Nowadays Astrologers never do these things. Even if there is a possiblity in the positive way, they never encourage these things.
A GIRL'S MAANGALAYA POWER IS predicted from the power of the 8th BAAVA in her Horoscope. The 8th House indicates the VIRTUE, MAANGALYA, HEALTH, AAYUL etc. If the 8th house is affected badly by any of the BAAPAGRAHAAS ..esp RAAGHU, KETU, SURYA, MARS (Sevvai Dosha).. then while match-making ASTROLOGERS generally take extra-care.
If 8th house is affected by RAHU / KETU, then it forms SARPA DOSHA..
If it is affected by MARS, it forms A POWERFUL MARS DOSHA (Reg this, Astrologers have difference of opinion).
Also, ASTROLOGER GENERALLY CHOOSE A PARNER FOR THESE KIND OF PEOPLE WITH HEALTHY 8th house -- i.e. MORE AAYUL -- which can neutralise the effect. :)
P.S: I have seen a person (who is a famous astrologer himself) having this combination. His condition was also like that only. Being an astrologer himself, this guy went ahead and married a girl. But what followed was very strange. He didn't allow her partner to wear the HOLY MANGAL SUTRA. (That means.. In his words, I learned that it won't form a marriage setup) Even though I have difference of opinion on this, BOTH OF THEM HAVE CROSSED 40+ YEARS OF MARRIAGE LIFE AND ARE WELL till now :D :D
Just like how, Sudhamma put, It'S ALL IN THE HANDS OF THE ASTROLOGER UNDER QUESTION and the effects due to these can be reduced with anyone of the ways mentioned in Sudhamma's post. :D
For predicting whether a guy will pass away if he marries a girl,
ASTROLOGERS MUST WORK WITH BOTH THE HOROSCOPES.
This is a HIGHLY DISPUTABLE ISSUE... as I had already mentioned... that there exists divergent opinions on this point, even amongst the Astrological Scholars....as I have observed since the past more than five decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
But I am quite sure on my positive outlook... that it need not be only factor to reject any matrimonial proposal.
Out of several cases... I quote one best example.
The Girls Horoscope was the vworst Dosha-Jathaka... with Mangalya- Dosha as well as in other respects.... to show constant quarrels between the couple... Death of the Girls's Father-in-law within 3 years of marriage... and so on.
But the Boy and his father were so firm to have that alliance... and questioned... let us see how our Blotless Horoscopes get OVERPOWERED by just one Horoscope?
The Marriage took place.... and nothing detrimental happened so far ....since the past 20 years of marriage. Because the Bride's side have performed the due Astrological parihaaram...
...alongside wearing the APT GEMS by the Girl... conforming to Mani-Sasthram.
In fact...they are quite happy and prosperous in Reality...with NO INDICATION of a ... Bad Horoscope.
I am totally against CONDEMNING ANYBODY.... thus DENYING THEIR FUTURE PROSPECTS.... just based on Horoscopes..
Horoscopes are only for our information of Stock...NOT THE BOUNDEN DESTINY.
God sometimes gives us problem... due to our past Karmas...but shows us the Remedies also... side by side.
Our duty is to BOLDLY CONFRONT THE ODDS AND ILLS...
....and ULTIMATELY WIN...with the Support of Astrology....and God's grace.
some one please predict who is going to be the next CM of TN. seems that there are quite knowledgeable astronomers here
..Forthcoming "Tamilnadu ELECTION-RESULTS" : Prediction Possible?
Astronomy is different from Astrology. .. TWO DIFFERENT BRANCHES of Science.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
Only the Astrologers can predict the events ahead, based on Astrology, the Study based on planetary positions in the relevant Horoscope.
Can the future of a Country or People as a whole collectively ...be Predicted?
This is a highly disputable point amongst Astrologers...Rather there are Two Schools of Opinion.
No doubt...there are Astrologers who are predicting on the Nations, People as also the whole world...
But how far their predictions have come true in practice... by Reality? Why?
I am fully convinced on the stand of one section of the Astrologers who have established Astrologically... that..
The future of a Country, or People collectively... cannot be predicted... and if done, it is contrary to the sense of Astrological- Science.
The forecast on any person or living-being alone can be realistic and practicable...because Astrology is a Spiritual-Science applicable for any creature having the Athma (Soul) and the Brain comprising of Mind...both of which are Very important in Life.
So Astrology gives much importance to the two planets ... Sun, the Athma-Kaaraka... and the Moon, the Manas-kaaraka...
Not only that much.... Sun is also the Pithru-kaaraka (Concerning Father)...Moon the Maathru-kaaraka (Concerned with Mother)... Then it is needless to elaborate...
.. that the importance of Sun and Moon in ones Horoscope, is as much important as for Father and Mother in Life..
So the Sun and Moon's positions in a Horoscope can do and undo the effects of all other planets..
Anybody can question... if the future of a Nation or its part... or its people, can be predicted, based on the relevant Birth- timings....
...Why not similar prediction for a Tree I planted and a Building founded at a particular time?... Can they answer?
So Astrology cannot help to foresee which Political party will Win or not in the forthcoming Tamilnadu election...
...other than for the persons behind.... based on their Horoscopes
If any Astrologer ventures to predict for such political events or on the outcome of the ensuing Tamilnadu election...irrespective of the persons behind...
...May be he is able to say, based on his rare Psycho-might of PRECOGNITION...
...and cannot be... based on Astrology.
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i meant astrology :oops: :oops: :oops: :D
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Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
AMR has indirectly predicted that "MK" will loose and JJ will win....atleast that is what I understoood from his words....
AMR has indirectly predicted that "MK" will loose and JJ will win....atleast that is what I understoood from his words....[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by srivatsan
His present predictions on Tamilnadu's future, have been worked out on the Gochara-system of Astrology...
...which is based on movement of Planets in relation to the countries
They are different, and may sometimes come true...
If the above prediction of the Astrologer Mr. AMR... does not come true,...
... we should not blame either the Astrology nor the Astrologer....
... because in such cases by Gochara... it is more a matter of chance than the Scientific forecast.
.
Predicting one out two which has very high probability of chance, need no great knowledge. Just reading few pre-poll survey is enough. If he can tell how many seats each party (ADMK, DMK, PMK, Congress, Vaiko etc - at least 5 major parties) with 5~10% error, we can appreciate his knowledge in astrology or atleast his studies on various pre-poll survey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
What I said about the weak-basis of Gochara-system of Astrological predictions.....Quote:
Originally Posted by r_kk
...have been exaggerated and twisted by Mr.r_kk,... to mean different, and CHEAP...
... on the whole Science of Astrology.. as well as on my views..
If any competent Astrologer predicts on the basis of Horoscopes of the persons behind...It can never fail...
..because that basis is more reliable and scientific...
.. than the Gochara-system of Astrological predictions for any Land or its People.... I clarify. further.
Dear Mr. Sudhamma,
I don't know why you over react!!
Where I had twisted your statements? I was telling just telling one out of two as the winner doesn't require any major knowledge... Is it twisted...
oops...
Why can't some astrologer predict with 5% accuracy of entire election? If possible predict some election in Some remote african region! or predict when peace will come in Sudan or when internal conflicts will be over in some African country, who will the next President of Irag etc etc..
Don't confined your great knowledge applied to MK or J which can be predicted easily....
Dear Mr. r_kk,Quote:
Originally Posted by r_kk
I have made detailed postings repeatedly that there are TWO SCHOOLS OF OPINION....on the prediction for any Nation or piece of Land..
....which is done, based on the Gochara system of Astrology...movement of planets in relation to the Land at a particular Longitudinal degree.
For Human-beings too, Gochara-predictions are given by Astrologers.. based on their Birth-Star and Rasi..
Even as a staunch believer of Astrology.... I do not believe this sort of forecast...nor accept it, because it is not reliable.
The main factor in Astrology is Birth-time, apart from place of Birth.. for working out a Horoscope..
Whereas in the Gochara Astrology, for a nation or the People collectively, the date of its formation. ..is taken as the Birth-time.
For example in the case of India, it is taken as the midnight of Aug-15, 1947.
But it is the time, the Human-beings fixed.... whereas the Birthtime invariably means the Natural birthtime...God-made., as in the case of Child-birth.
Further again, there is a dispute amongst the Astrologers on the veracity of Horoscopes worked out for Humans on the Birth-time by Caesarian-surgery, pre-determined by the parents. And it is practically seen, such predictions mostly do not come true... becausae of its unreliability.
To solve such unavoidable problem.... my Astrologer Ms. Geethanjali, adopts the..
.. Reverse method of working out the Horocopes backward...after some years of birth... by noting down the Events Qualities and other Background of the person concerned..
If the Two Horoscopes made by different Astrologers, for the same person VARY ...
... when they were made through different methods of mathematical calculations (Vakkiya-System and Dhruk-Ganitha System.)
...the same method is followed by the practical Astrologers..
Such alternatives are not possible for a Nation or its people... collectively.
So... the Astrological predictions for any Land or its people are NOT RELIABLE.
exactly !! We cannot do that for a nation or a country ! I have seen several western astrologers doing this.. (Generating the horoscope of US and giving the predictions) IT looks quite strange since astrology is heavily dependent on the latitude and longitude combinations)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Also,
Reg the TN election results, I can tell this:
During the recent US Presidential elections, Our Astrogical mailing list predicted a BUSH Win contrast to a KERRY win.. (After having deeply analysing the Navamsha of both these people).
To our surprise, many Indian astrologers predicted a KERRY win without concentrating much on KERRY'S NAVAMSHA (as well as for Bush)
IF we consider the same in the case MK AND JJ,
No one has the Corret horo of these people.
IF we predict something purely based on GOCHARA, then it is a :lol:
coz JJ IS GOING THROUGH 7.5 SATURN PERIOD (LEO) WHILE MK IS COMPLETELY OUT OF IT (TAURUS)
:rotfl: Curious how these people are predicting it ! :?:
Quote:
Originally Posted by torchbearer
i am also a fan of indian astrology since a longtime i have got a question after studying gemological books, there are many gems combinations which are not advised to wear such as ruby with blue saffire or topaz with emerald & such mores, but i dont found anywhere in various books about combination of zircon(gomed) with catseye(lahsunia). what happens if one wear zircon with catseye? i have seen many peoples who wears zircon with pearls(white) whereas that was told a wrong combinations in many books. pls clarify it i m not a astrolger, but having deep intersts into it.
MANI-SASTHRA .. a Scripture on Gems... is a part of Veda., parallel to Jyothisha- Sasthra.Quote:
Originally Posted by johntony
Both these Sasthras are interlinked... since commonly based on Navagraha Planets.
But Mani-Sasthra is different and unlinked to Gemmology... which covers Crystal-stones too.
Whereas there is No place for Crystal stones either in Mani- Sasthra or Astrology.
May be some of the Crystal stones too... render palpable Spiritual returns.... similar or at par with the Gems.
Gems only are linked with the Navagraha Planets and Not the Crystals..
So let us not confuse with both the Gems and Crystals..
For example, if anybody raises doubt on the Incompatibility of Saphire and Ruby...
We can answer ...that the Ruby represents the Planet Sun, while Saphire represents Saturn. Both are Enemies . And so should not be placed together.
But Ruby and Pearl together goes well... Because of Sun and Moon , the friends.
Once again proving that the astrology as mere guess work.... Since Mr. Sudhamma had already taken safe cover, we can't ask him why it went wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
Dear Mr. Sudhamma,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
I didn't expect the above pseudo scientific claim from a retired civil engineer like you. I hope that during your college days, you might have studied the Geology and crystal structures!!! As usual I am requesting you to write with some proofs....
thanks for replying my query, but u dont tell me what happens if some has wear gomed( gemstone for rahu) with lahsunia ( gemstone for ketu) . as we know these are head & tails of one body, always posses an angle of 180 degree to each other in our solar system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
...Rahu and Kethu...Phenomena
These Two planets... according to Astrology... are called CHAAYA GRAHAS.
So to say... SHADY PLANETS...the power of which varies according to its placement of house...
.. as well as the other planets associated with ..alongside the ones aspected by.
Generally speaking... Rahu is of Sani (Saturn) Qualities... while
..Kethu is of Angaaraka (Mars) qualities.
Practically observed fact is... Rahu effects more on the mundane Earthly Life.. while
Kethu ..effects more on the Spiritual path of transcendental outlook..
Again I have to stress... that it varies according to the factors stated above.
Constantly maintaining 180 degrees mutually. both these planets move on the Reverse direction, contrary to all other planets....
Gomedhaka represents Rahu... and Vaidooryam (Cats Eye) represents Kethu...
Since both of them are malefic... the related Gems as per Mani-sasthra... should be worn ..ONLY ON THE MIDDLE-FINGER (Longest), which is the Saturn finger.
The strange truth is... generally speaking... if one of them is good to a person(as per Horoscope),, the other planet used to be bad... the opposite to him.
Both these Gems should never be worn together, but only one of the two as per the Astrologers advice.
RAHU AND KETHU ARE NOT PLANETS!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
thanks for answering me
I believe in astrology... but I am not able to accept that competent astrologeres always predict right... Or atleast those I've seen wern't as competent as U say... :roll: :? I used to get predictions from an astrologer in India... I consider him to be very knowledgeble & competent in his field... I would say around 60-70% of his predictions come true in the long run... But not all his predictions are true... For ex: when I was about to take my CPA exams last year, I just wanted to consult with my astrologer... He said that this is not the right time to go for exams & he asked me to postpone it by 6 months...He was very confident that I'll not be clearing my papers if I take the exams at that point... I thought that's a long wait & since I was pretty confident on my prep, I thought I'll just give it a try... & when I met him after my exams(after abt 2 months) & that's was the time I was awaiting results... this time, he checked the horoscope & said that now the time is favourable & though I gave the exams at the wrong time, since the results are coming at a favourable time, there are high chances that I'll get through... & I did get through... :roll: :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sudhaama
This has made me think the extent to which astrology should be relied upon... It can be taken as a guide but not always... sometime our karma may be so bad that predictions will be misleading no matter how compenet the preson who predicts it is...Astrology is such a complex field & I doubt if anyone can really master it fully well to give the right predictions all the time...
Dear Thamizhvaanan,Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
Please go through my detailled posting hereabove, where I have mentioned on the Astrological point of View...
...and I have also mentioned that Rahu and Kethu are called as CHAAYA-GRAHAS (Shady Planets, being in Non-solid Abstract form)
Besides I clarify further that ...Astrology is termed as an OCCULT- SCIENCE rather.. a DIVINE- SCIENCE.
...and considered so by the Scholars well-versed in both the subjects of Astronomy and Astrology..
Although both are the allied segments of Science, in certain aspects, they differ...
...One of which is the Classification of Planets.
Astrology treats Sun as a Planet, whereas Astronomy does not accept it so... but only as a Star.
Earth is a Planet according to Astronomy, whereas it is not valued so by Astrology,...
..but only as BHOO- LOKA (Earthly World)...one of the Seven-Lokas of inhabitation of Living- beings.
...since the Earth does not possess the Planetary- potentialities, simiar to the other Planets...
... named as Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. Jupiter and the like,
...which celestial bodies are able to influence over all other bodies in the Space... including the Living-beings and Plants...
...by means of their constant emission of Powerful Rays all around.. crossing millions of milles
And Earth is taken as the central-point as Lagna(Zero degree) to work out the inter- related locations of all the Nine planets around
.. in a Horoscope. of 360 degrees divided into 12 houses of 30 degrees each.
Rahu and Kethu are not accepted as Planets by Astronomy...
...whereas since they too possess the Planetary potenialities, similar to the other planets...
.. being the Sources of constant Ray- emissions influencing over other bodies and Living- beings as well....
Astrology asserts that Rahu-Kethu are the members of NAVA- GRAHAS, qualified to be attributed as PLANETS.