Blind worshipping of Thamizh cinema rasigan

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

@crajkumar_be Tamil films threadla ungaLa maadhiri ennaala madha virodha patti mandram nadaththa mudiyaadhu. I think unga bloglayo en bloglayo andha discussion vechukkalaam. My blog is unmoderated and fairly ok place to discuss that. I am not an atheist inspired by any actor or a worshipper because my 'thalaivar' does so.

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Jai,
Why do you assume i'm an atheist? :razz:
Anyway, adhu ippo mukkiyam illa.... worship nu vandhutta unga vaadhatha vida enga (fanatics) vadhangalum counter-points um strong-a irukkum (and indha vaadhatha solra naanga ellorum atheist-a irukka vendiya avasiyam illa)

Then Indhiya kalacharathu padi edho jolly-a irundhuttu porom.. idhula enna prachanai? naanga fanaticism la "waste" panra time-a vida indha madhiri vivadham moolama waste agara time dhaan jaasthi :)

Jai,
ambuttu dhaen. Case closed!

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Thavira Thiru joe avargal theatre vaasalil kaththi kuthu pathi yellaam padichadhillainnu ninaikiren.

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ஐயா,
தியேட்டர் வாசலில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளை விட கோவில் திருவிழாக்களில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகம் .அதனால் கோவில் திருவிழாக்கள் ஒழிக்கப்பட வேண்டுமென சொல்லுறீங்களா?

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:lol: :thumbsup:

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>digr.>

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Originally Posted by sarna_blr

KADAVUL'um KOOTHTHAADIyum ondraaa :rotfl2: blasphemy :sigh2:

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தில்லையுள் கூத்தனே
தென்பாண்டி நாட்டானே

@ TiruvAsagam via Ilayaraja

<digr<

You are missing the point. One man's meat is another man's poison. :P

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Originally Posted by sarna_blr

appadiyaanaal KOVIL'um THIRAIYARANGUM ondraa :rotfl: :rotfl:
KADAVUL'um KOOTHTHAADIyum ondraaa :rotfl2: blasphemy :sigh2:

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Oh, now, we've shifted gears to point fingers at the illiterates! Seriously, does anyone think education would drive away people from idol worship? (Let's for a moment stop short of debating whether or not it's necessary to drive them in other directions at first place!) Neither is your average literate remarkably individualistic nor is the average illiterate a "wastrel" consumed completely by something that's of no value to his individual life. The notion that formal education will impart sophisticated sensibilities is itself significantly misplaced, and needless to say, an out-and-out 'podhup puridhal' that is regurgitated by all and sundry (perhaps because they feel the urge to add more value to their own inexplicably overlong stint in the school!). Nobody is as blind as they're made out to be. And, nobody is totally sighted either. Even as I'm typing this, I'm influenced by several people and several things.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

When it happened in MGR sivaji time period - there was also an added factor of illiteracy and ignorance in Thamizh Nadu. However thamizh nadu of today (Joe would agree) is much more educated and comparatively prosperous). Yet young people distracted and destroyed by the blind worship is continuing to happen and that is much much more shameful. The number of fan clubs since MGR Sivaji days has mushroomed and 'paal abishekam' has given waqy to 'beer abhishekam'. Earlier illiterate idiots did it - now literate, educated wastrels are doing it .

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Jaiganes,
Is it so hard to see that they are enjoying themselves doing all that? Maddy, Joe and Bala might have brought up unrelated things in this thread, but clearly there's a larger relevance. It'd be useful to pause and wonder why we are discussing particularly about the "thamizh cinema rasigan" when person-worship pervades the world in so many ways. Isn't it because we're all obsessed with cinema to different degrees? And hence with various artists? My question to you is how less obsessed we are compared to those who are doing pAl abishEgam for their idols. pAl abishEgam paNNi, padam pAththu mudichchappuRam, avar vElaiya pArkka poYiduvArA irukkum! yArukku theriyum? What useful work are we accomplishing here?

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Originally Posted by equanimus

What useful work are we accomplishing here?

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Nice observation!

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Beer abhishEkam naan pArthadhillai. ChummA sollanumEnu solla vENdiyadhu :lol2:
1. Beer is costly
2. Beer stinks
3. Its illegal!

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Originally Posted by joe

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Thavira Thiru joe avargal theatre vaasalil kaththi kuthu pathi yellaam padichadhillainnu ninaikiren.

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ஐயா,
தியேட்டர் வாசலில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளை விட கோவில் திருவிழாக்களில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகம் .அதனால் கோவில் திருவிழாக்கள் ஒழிக்கப்பட வேண்டுமென சொல்லுறீங்களா?

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kaththi kuththu happens in front of jail, panchayat office, collecetor office and infront of people's house too. Vaarthayai pidichikittu, argue pannaa indha maadhiri thappu thappa argue naan kooda pannalaam.
I just brought to your notice that your notion that blind adulation of cinema fans to a level of fanaticism also has taken a few lives and definitely to be added to the list of fanaticism that our thamizh people have (if we generalize - our indian people). This being thamizh films thread i added this to the discussion. Madha veri paththi vera threadla pesalaam. adhai ingey pesinaa. MAdha veri sari enga veri thappaa? appadinnu kekara maadhiri irukku. Appadi kaettaal, andha veriyum thappu indha veriyum thappu apdingradhu dhaan theerpu. Madha veri paththi pesum boadhu mozhi veriyayum saeththu pesalaam adhai romba naagareegama indha threadla pesa mudiyaadhu - adhu oru periya digression. vera threadla illa blogla naama adhai pesuvom.
@ crajkumar_be - naan ungala naastheegarnu sollave illaye - why do you assume that I did -I spoke generally about people who fashion their thoughts, beliefs and acts blindly on some one else.
@equanimus - as far as illiteracy and its connection with rational behaviour (offcourse what is rational behaviour - I would say that behaviour that doesn't justify causing public greivance and nuisance for some emotional issue) we know from 60 years of post independence Indian history how leaders have cleverly used emotional arguments to side step rational argument on everything from policy discussions to day to day administration and people being illiterates helps them in a big way . In 60s and 70s real paguththarivu vaadhis(rationalists) sincerely believed that education would liberate the iliterates - My argument was that blind fanaticism to movie stars and belief that their onscreen and offscreen persona were one and the same could have been attributed to illiteracy - but modern waste mongrel attitude(attributable to fan club activities) found in semi literate and literate youths in urban and semi urban centers ( I have had no chance to interact with real rural pocket people) is truly baffling. Larger than life has shrinked their life into smaller than reality status and that too while they are wide awake. Now I would feel happy if we all could debate on this 'ullangai nelli kani' rather than debating my fanaticism or (this fanaticism) is just a pichchuvaa kaththi in front of religious hatred and intolerance which is a machine gun. Nevertheless both are irrational and quite harmful is my point and in this forum there is no space or tolerance left to discuss the machine gun matter and therefore lets discuss the root problem of fanaticism which has manifested in a rather small (but still harmful) way as devotion to a film star.

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Originally Posted by equanimus

Oh, now, we've shifted gears to point fingers at the illiterates! Seriously, does anyone think education would drive away people from idol worship? (Let's for a moment stop short of debating whether or not it's necessary to drive them in other directions at first place!) Neither is your average literate remarkably individualistic nor is the average illiterate a "wastrel" consumed completely by something that's of no value to his individual life. The notion that formal education will impart sophisticated sensibilities is itself significantly misplaced, and needless to say, an out-and-out 'podhup puridhal' that is regurgitated by all and sundry (perhaps because they feel the urge to add more value to their own inexplicably overlong stint in the school!). Nobody is as blind as they're made out to be. And, nobody is totally sighted either. Even as I'm typing this, I'm influenced by several people and several things.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

When it happened in MGR sivaji time period - there was also an added factor of illiteracy and ignorance in Thamizh Nadu. However thamizh nadu of today (Joe would agree) is much more educated and comparatively prosperous). Yet young people distracted and destroyed by the blind worship is continuing to happen and that is much much more shameful. The number of fan clubs since MGR Sivaji days has mushroomed and 'paal abishekam' has given waqy to 'beer abhishekam'. Earlier illiterate idiots did it - now literate, educated wastrels are doing it .

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Jaiganes,
Is it so hard to see that they are enjoying themselves doing all that? Maddy, Joe and Bala might have brought up unrelated things in this thread, but clearly there's a larger relevance. It'd be useful to pause and wonder why we are discussing particularly about the "thamizh cinema rasigan" when person-worship pervades the world in so many ways. Isn't it because we're all obsessed with cinema to different degrees? And hence with various artists? My question to you is how less obsessed we are compared to those who are doing pAl abishEgam for their idols. pAl abishEgam paNNi, padam pAththu mudichchappuRam, avar vElaiya pArkka poYiduvArA irukkum! yArukku theriyum? What useful work are we accomplishing here?

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Who knows what useful work we are accomplishing here or there or anywhere? Just thinking and thinking loud - thats all. I want to share this thought and if it was such an invalid thought in your opinion - so be it and as crajkumar would say, lets agree to categorically disagree. I have no qualms with that.

Obviously, it's a different matter altogether if we're talking about the public nuisance and potential inconveniences such activities cause to others, etc. If that's the case, we've to get into the details. And, as I've no idea about that, I'd duly excuse myself from this discussion.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

offcourse what is rational behaviour - I would say that behaviour that doesn't justify causing public greivance and nuisance for some emotional issue

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Jaiganes,
As I wasn't talking about our political history etc. in my post, let me just respond to this part. If this is the yardstick, I'm afraid you've not said much about it. I'm no sympathiser for pAl abishEgam et al. (actually, haven't even seen one in life), but I see that they're tring to have fun. And, it might or might not be cause public grievance and nuisance.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Who knows what useful work we are accomplishing here or there or anywhere? Just thinking and thinking loud - thats all. I want to share this thought and if it was such an invalid thought in your opinion - so be it and as crajkumar would say, lets agree to categorically disagree. I have no qualms with that.

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No, no, I think you misunderstood that line. I was trying to ask, aren't we "wasting" our time too discussing this? To do useful work all the time isn't the kind of virtue we all aspire for, is it? :) And, I didn't mean to say it is "such an invalid thought" at all! Like you, I'm just trying to share my two cents about it. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Nerd

Beer abhishEkam naan pArthadhillai. ChummA sollanumEnu solla vENdiyadhu :lol2:
1. Beer is costly
2. Beer stinks
3. Its illegal!

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Beer abhishekam is well and truly introduced by THALA fans !!!!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Proud to be a THALA fan.

Corleone

Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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Originally Posted by equanimus

Obviously, it's a different matter altogether if we're talking about the public nuisance and potential inconveniences such activities cause to others, etc. If that's the case, we've to get into the details. And, as I've no idea about that, I'd duly excuse myself from this discussion.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

offcourse what is rational behaviour - I would say that behaviour that doesn't justify causing public greivance and nuisance for some emotional issue

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Jaiganes,
As I wasn't talking about our political history etc. in my post, let me just respond to this part. If this is the yardstick, I'm afraid you've not said much about it. I'm no sympathiser for pAl abishEgam et al. (actually, haven't even seen one in life), but I see that they're tring to have fun. And, it might or might not be cause public grievance and nuisance.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

Who knows what useful work we are accomplishing here or there or anywhere? Just thinking and thinking loud - thats all. I want to share this thought and if it was such an invalid thought in your opinion - so be it and as crajkumar would say, lets agree to categorically disagree. I have no qualms with that.

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No, no, I think you misunderstood that line. I was trying to ask, aren't we "wasting" our time too discussing this? To do useful work all the time isn't the kind of virtue we all aspire for, is it? :) And, I didn't mean to say it is "such an invalid thought" at all! Like you, I'm just trying to share my two cents about it. Cheers.

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all the while we are discussing this it is not as if our paychecks are being torn and we go empty handed or something like that. there is a degree of financial security because we did nto take a day's leave (with loss of pay) to tie thoranams in the theatre or to buy sachets of milk for an upcoming release of a film of an actor. So we are cool.

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

all the while we are discussing this it is not as if our paychecks are being torn and we go empty handed or something like that. there is a degree of financial security because we did nto take a day's leave (with loss of pay) to tie thoranams in the theatre or to buy sachets of milk for an upcoming release of a film of an actor. So we are cool.

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And do you mean to say they shouldn't be "cool," wasting their time tying thOraNam, as long as they think there is "a degree of financial security" in their life, and are able to do whatever they feel like doing? Buying sachets of milk for a cut-out pAl abishEgam and writing belabored posts on some niche website (I was going to say godforsaken website, but am not sure how people would take that!), I don't see a difference. I'm sure many a milk sachets-buying fan would be bewildered to know that this is what we do, besides work, sitting at our office.

Have you guys seen Bharathiraja's ennuyir thOzhan ??

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

all the while we are discussing this it is not as if our paychecks are being torn and we go empty handed or something like that. there is a degree of financial security because we did nto take a day's leave (with loss of pay) to tie thoranams in the theatre or to buy sachets of milk for an upcoming release of a film of an actor. So we are cool.

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And do you mean to say they shouldn't be "cool," wasting their time tying thOraNam, as long as they think there is "a degree of financial security" in their life, and are able to do whatever they feel like doing? Buying sachets of milk for a cut-out pAl abishEgam and writing belabored posts on some niche website (I was going to say godforsaken website, but am not sure how people would take that!), I don't see a difference. I'm sure many a milk sachets-buying fan would be bewildered to know that this is what we do, besides work, sitting at our office.

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By all means yes - if they dont drag another guy who is losing his financial security/education/future and not cause trouble to gen public.

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Originally Posted by Nerd

Have you guys seen Bharathiraja's ennuyir thOzhan ??

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yup (I raise my hand)!!

Free -a beer kidikumna adutha thala padathuku soli anupunga naa vaal pola varen

:lol2:

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Corleone

Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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sattaila enna bomma

poona saar

idhula enna peruma..get out :lol:

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Thavira Thiru joe avargal theatre vaasalil kaththi kuthu pathi yellaam padichadhillainnu ninaikiren.

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ஐயா,
தியேட்டர் வாசலில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளை விட கோவில் திருவிழாக்களில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகம் .அதனால் கோவில் திருவிழாக்கள் ஒழிக்கப்பட வேண்டுமென சொல்லுறீங்களா?

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I just brought to your notice that your notion that blind adulation of cinema fans to a level of fanaticism also has taken a few lives and definitely to be added to the list of fanaticism that our thamizh people have (if we generalize - our indian people). This being thamizh films thread i added this to the discussion. Madha veri paththi vera threadla pesalaam. adhai ingey pesinaa. MAdha veri sari enga veri thappaa? appadinnu kekara maadhiri irukku. Appadi kaettaal, andha veriyum thappu indha veriyum thappu apdingradhu dhaan theerpu. Madha veri paththi pesum boadhu mozhi veriyayum saeththu pesalaam adhai romba naagareegama indha threadla pesa mudiyaadhu - adhu oru periya digression. vera threadla illa blogla naama adhai pesuvom.

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:fatigue: :shaking: Pls stop the lecture..மதவெறி பற்றியெல்லாம் நான் இங்கு பேசவில்லை ..கோவில் திருவிழாவில் கத்தி குத்துவதற்கு மதவெறி காரணமாய் இருக்கத் தேவையில்லை .மக்கள் கூடும் இடங்களில் (கோவில் திருவிழா ,சந்தை ) போன்ற இடங்களில் பல்வேறு காரணங்களுக்காக கத்திகுத்து தகராறுகள் நடைபெறலாம் .

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kaththi kuththu happens in front of jail, panchayat office, collecetor office and infront of people's house too. Vaarthayai pidichikittu, argue pannaa indha maadhiri thappu thappa argue naan kooda pannalaam.

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சரிங்க ஐயா ..நாங்க தான் தப்பு தப்பா வாதம் பண்ணுறோம் .நீங்க மட்டும் தான் சரியா பண்ணுறீங்க .அப்போ தேவையில்லாம நம்மை இழுக்காம இருக்கலாமே :huh:

:lol:

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Corleone

Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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sattaila enna bomma

poona saar

idhula enna peruma..get out :lol:

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:lol:

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Corleone

Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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sattaila enna bomma

poona saar

idhula enna peruma..get out :lol:

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poyum poyum poonaya pottan oru singatha potturukka koodadhu

appakooda avan asingamathan iruppan :lol:

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Have you guys seen Bharathiraja's ennuyir thOzhan ??

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yup (I raise my hand)!!

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There are fanatics like that too. ThannOda kudumbam/kuzhanthaigaLai koodA madhikkAmal field work seyyum makkaL. Have personally seen them. They are just plain stupid. And it can't be denied that this fanaticism spreads hatred among people, provokes them towards violence and more than one life has been lost!

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Beer abhishekam is well and truly introduced by THALA fans !!!!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Proud to be a THALA fan.

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Yes. Apart from that, "Paan Paraag" maalai was also introduced by Thala fans. Not just Beer. "Jin" abhisekam kooda Varalaarukku nadanthathu (Madurai la). Dinamalar reports on this regularly as usual :lol:

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Originally Posted by Nerd

Beer abhishEkam naan pArthadhillai. ChummA sollanumEnu solla vENdiyadhu :lol2:
1. Beer is costly
2. Beer stinks
3. Its illegal!

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:rotfl:

enna aachu Nerd ?? :lol:

BTW, entha kaalathula irukeenga...Banner ae 50K kku vaikkum pothu... Beer enna, whisky, wine ellam follow aagurathu vegu thoorathil illai

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Thavira Thiru joe avargal theatre vaasalil kaththi kuthu pathi yellaam padichadhillainnu ninaikiren.

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ஐயா,
தியேட்டர் வாசலில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளை விட கோவில் திருவிழாக்களில் நடந்த கத்திக்குத்துகளின் எண்ணிக்கை அதிகம் .அதனால் கோவில் திருவிழாக்கள் ஒழிக்கப்பட வேண்டுமென சொல்லுறீங்களா?

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I just brought to your notice that your notion that blind adulation of cinema fans to a level of fanaticism also has taken a few lives and definitely to be added to the list of fanaticism that our thamizh people have (if we generalize - our indian people). This being thamizh films thread i added this to the discussion. Madha veri paththi vera threadla pesalaam. adhai ingey pesinaa. MAdha veri sari enga veri thappaa? appadinnu kekara maadhiri irukku. Appadi kaettaal, andha veriyum thappu indha veriyum thappu apdingradhu dhaan theerpu. Madha veri paththi pesum boadhu mozhi veriyayum saeththu pesalaam adhai romba naagareegama indha threadla pesa mudiyaadhu - adhu oru periya digression. vera threadla illa blogla naama adhai pesuvom.

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:fatigue: :shaking: Pls stop the lecture..மதவெறி பற்றியெல்லாம் நான் இங்கு பேசவில்லை ..கோவில் திருவிழாவில் கத்தி குத்துவதற்கு மதவெறி காரணமாய் இருக்கத் தேவையில்லை .மக்கள் கூடும் இடங்களில் (கோவில் திருவிழா ,சந்தை ) போன்ற இடங்களில் பல்வேறு காரணங்களுக்காக கத்திகுத்து தகராறுகள் நடைபெறலாம் .

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kaththi kuththu happens in front of jail, panchayat office, collecetor office and infront of people's house too. Vaarthayai pidichikittu, argue pannaa indha maadhiri thappu thappa argue naan kooda pannalaam.

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சரிங்க ஐயா ..நாங்க தான் தப்பு தப்பா வாதம் பண்ணுறோம் .நீங்க மட்டும் தான் சரியா பண்ணுறீங்க .அப்போ தேவையில்லாம நம்மை இழுக்காம இருக்கலாமே :huh:

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palveru kaaranangaL appadinnu solreengale.
theatre vaasalil kaththi kuththu enbadhu sameebaththil nadandha oru sambavam adhaiththaan kuripittaen. maththabadi ungalai pondra saandrorukku en siru madhiyonin lecture thaevayillai enbadhu enakku theriyum aiyya.
ungal padhivai thavaraaga purindhu kondadharku varundhugiren!!

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Corleone
Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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nejamaathaan ketkureengala :P

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Then Indhiya kalacharathu padi edho jolly-a irundhuttu porom.. idhula enna prachanai? naanga fanaticism la "waste" panra time-a vida indha madhiri vivadham moolama waste agara time dhaan jaasthi :)

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:exactly:

Selva, I m still in 2002 (baba release) And I have not seen beer and other crap during my times!! so wasnt sure, thanks for letting me know!

Adhula perumai pada onnum illai :)

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Corleone
Idhula enna perumai ?? :P

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nejamaathaan ketkureengala :P

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Adhula perumai pada onnum illai :)

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oh ! :)
38K to 50k rasigar mandrathoda sernthu naan perumai paduraen :wink: 8-) :) on the "fun" and "celebration"

Alright, Jaiganes. I was primarily objecting only to the condescension towards fanboy-groups and gross generalizations about literates vis-a-vis illiterates.

Agree with you completely Jaiganesh. Just look at Selva's post above. I am still reeling with shock. :sigh2:

on another note, I observe that Indians make the most number of fanatics, let it be cinema, politics, religion, language or anything else. Fanaticism leads to violence - its just a slip between the cup and lip.

taking malaysia as an example, indians are the smallest group among the three major races here, but in violence, we are the tops. this is evident in any place indians live. :cry2:

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taking malaysia as an example, indians are the smallest group among the three major races here, but in violence, we are the tops. this is evident in any place indians live. :cry2:

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True but what it has to do with 'fanatisicm' :confused2:

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BTW, entha kaalathula irukeenga...Banner ae 50K kku vaikkum pothu... Beer enna, whisky, wine ellam follow aagurathu vegu thoorathil illai

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u mean they (fans) spend 50000 rupees for those banners :oops: :?

the good work that are done by fans dont even get a mention here...........kamal fans are doing a great job in social work, even some of our hubbers are part of such things :clap:

one of my office colleague, rajini fan, lists so many examples of them doing charity work :notworthy:

ada, enga saadhi kaara pasanga - so called peters - yahoo grp rahman fans are also into so much social work......they recently helped out a orphanage.........:notworthy:

so, i would say, cinema fanatics are the only reason for social service........

Ajith fans orkut groupum avanga naala mudinja udhavigalai seyraanga :) .

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Ajith fans orkut groupum avanga naala mudinja udhavigalai seyraanga :) .

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sollava venum.........avare evalavu pannuraaru 8-)

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Agree with you completely Jaiganesh. Just look at Selva's post above. I am still reeling with shock. :sigh2:

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irukka koodaathey !

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taking malaysia as an example, indians are the smallest group among the three major races here, but in violence, we are the tops. this is evident in any place indians live. :cry2:

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ithukkum fanaticism kkum enna relation :confused2:

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taking malaysia as an example, indians are the smallest group among the three major races here, but in violence, we are the tops. this is evident in any place indians live. :cry2:

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ithukkum fanaticism kkum enna relation :confused2:

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Selva, there is.

I come from a small town called Kluang. There used to be a theatre called Brilliant there. Fighting amongst fan was historic...to one point that it was burnt down. I am not sure which fans these are, but considering the time (early 70s) it must have been the big two. I got to check with my dad, a huge MGR fan (I am sure he will deny involvement in those fights).

Fights in cinema is not a shocking news here. And of the major races in Malaysia, it does not take a brilliant guy to know which fans did it. Brilliant, hmmm.....