Top 10 Versatile Actors

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Originally Posted by equanimus

Two things:
1. I don't think Vikram dubbed for Prabhu Deva in 'minsArak kanavu.' I'm quite sure it was Prabhu Deva's voice. Venkiraja is perhaps confusing with 'kAdhalan.'

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Mixed. Some parts PD some parrts Vikram

unga kooda pEsaNumnAlE dictionary vachikkaNum pOla irukkE : Vikram voice

Annai indira: PD voice

IIRC of course

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Oh, indha matter theriyAdhE enakku. A good piece of trivia.

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

Venki,

Pls do the honors :P

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NeengaLum Surya Hater-A? There is a long list of 'sothai' and 'weak' performances from him. We can easily observe the contrast between Daniel Balaji and Surya in Kaaka Kaaka's final moments. Mayavi is a prime example of Surya's unimpressive slog. His commercial features show how pathetic he is Aaru(Songs esp. Paakadhe could have been better even with a expression-less J.Ravi) Vel(Both roles are plain :o His sheshtaigal in 1000 jannal veedu). Interview-la kooda he 'tries hard'. Karthi is much better- Looks wise as well.

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I'm not a Surya hater. And one of my favorite Surya performances is Mayaavi :lol: Just that I sometimes feel he is given too much credit. Certainly a good actor :)

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indha chennai poNNunga ellArumE Surya fans pOla... ivaLunga avankitta ennatha kaNdAingannE therla... Everyone are crazy about him. erichalA varum. adhula pArunga, ellArOda Caller tune/ ringtone ellAmE Munbe va thaan. :x

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Kadaisila unnoda kovatthukku kaaranam idhaana :twisted: JK :P

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

I mean. Vikram qualifies into the grand pool of 'Versatile actors' very broadly. Surya ellAm "sellAdhu.. sellAdhu" Deposit-E pOyirum case.

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Surya versatile illai enRal definition-il pizhai. Thread-ai moodiralaam.

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Originally Posted by equanimus

Two things:
1. I don't think Vikram dubbed for Prabhu Deva in 'minsArak kanavu.' I'm quite sure it was Prabhu Deva's voice. Venkiraja is perhaps confusing with 'kAdhalan.'

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Mixed. Some parts PD some parrts Vikram

unga kooda pEsaNumnAlE dictionary vachikkaNum pOla irukkE : Vikram voice

Annai indira: PD voice

IIRC of course

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See. The ones where he had to 'emote', he had to use dubbing: Dictionary. And, I'm confused about Annai Indira scene.. AIDS distribution sounds like Vikram... and then immediately Kaal paadhi Body paadhi... oooo seems PD. Someone clarify...
P.S: Milestones like Alaavudheen, Love birds, etc. should also be taken into account.

Surya is definitely a versatile actor. There is no doubt about it.

LM, the way he dances for "megam karukkudhu" :rotfl3: What a ferfarmance :bow:

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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi

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Originally Posted by Plum

I'd like to make a point here
Preparedness is not that bad a word as Hubbers seem to be insinuating here.

Surya slips ofcourse showing the effort- most notably in Ghajni but that shouldnt take away from versatility. versatility != spontaneity
I think we should judge Surya-Madhavan without taking into account 'natural acting' and 'spontaneity factor'.
Just saying.

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adhethan.

the efforts put into versatility takes a toll on spontaneity...is also an issue.

to do a role which is not within ur horizon and also with spontaneity....is difficult.most of the actors who have maintained the spontaneity in their charecters have not been versatile.

two different dimentions.

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Vikki,
Not only that, this whole always "natural", "spontaneous", "never tries" thing is a myth

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

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yArAvadhu Perazhagan Surya (The Boxer), Kaaka Kaaka (Very bad acting except a few sequences... ex: The scene where he screams with the plasters, glucose bottles), SOK (with Bhumika after return/ scenes in the rain/last fifteen mins with Jyo) kalaaichu udungapA... ivan imsai thAnga mudiyala...

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Purila, enna solla vareenga? :confused2:

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I mean. Vikram qualifies into the grand pool of 'Versatile actors' very broadly. Surya ellAm "sellAdhu.. sellAdhu" Deposit-E pOyirum case.

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Vikram... versatility ... sellavE selaadhu

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

I'm not a Surya hater. And one of my favorite Surya performances is Mayaavi :lol: Just that I sometimes feel he is given too much credit. Certainly a good actor :)

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indha chennai poNNunga ellArumE Surya fans pOla... ivaLunga avankitta ennatha kaNdAingannE therla... Everyone are crazy about him. erichalA varum. adhula pArunga, ellArOda Caller tune/ ringtone ellAmE Munbe va thaan. :x

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Kadaisila unnoda kovatthukku kaaranam idhaana :twisted: JK :P

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Lion's share. I didn't like Surya. And then I had to change it to I hate Surya.

I have a strong feeling, most of us rate artists, for any given criteria, based on our individual likes n dislikes for the aritst. Then the whole discussoin would fissle out in usual way.

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Originally Posted by viraajan

LM, the way he dances for "megam karukkudhu" :rotfl3: What a ferfarmance :bow:

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:exactly: He brought the roof down in that scene. Sema applause theatre-la. That too in Bangalore :shock:

nEthu Mahanadhi pArtheengaLAppA? The scene where Haneefa stamps Kamalhassan... :notworthy:
Versatality... throughout the movie itself. Since I didn't catch up with the discussion live here, I would like to make a point:
Kamal, Rajni, Sathyaraj, Sivaji - Versatile.

Suriyar versatile-nA, Mike Mohan is versatile as well.

Given that I have been atypical today (whatever that is anyway) I will also say this:

Over the top performance + heavy make up
appidinnA ellArukkum konjam prejudice. EnnamO trick is indeed in the look and melodrama appidingra maadhiri.

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

I have a strong feeling, most of us rate artists, for any given criteria, based on our individual likes n dislikes for the aritst. Then the whole discussoin would fissle out in usual way.

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adhu thaan ka romba naala nadandhutu irukku :oops: :cry:

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

unga kooda pEsaNumnAlE dictionary vachikkaNum pOla irukkE : Vikram voice

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nInga sonnadhukkappuRam, reNdu pEr solRA mAdhiriyum imagine paNNa mudiyudhu. Have to check this. Incidentally I think the funniest line in the film is, "ayyO, adhula no doubt madam!"

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Suriyar versatile-nA, Mike Mohan is versatile as well.

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ringtone ungaLai romba baadhichchirukku :lol2:

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Kamal, Rajni, Sathyaraj, Sivaji - Versatile.

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Idhula Sathyaraj eppadi ulla vandhaaru :? :confused2:

Here is my list.... :P

Kamal
Rajni
Madhavan
Vikram
Surya
Jeeva
Prakash Raj / Raghuvaran / Nasser
Dhanush

// i might have missed one or two actors. this is what comes to my mind now :oops:

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Kamal, Rajni, Sathyaraj, Sivaji - Versatile.

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Idhula Sathyaraj eppadi ulla vandhaaru :? :confused2:

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I am reminded of an old ad (Directors Special I think) featuring Venkatesh Prasad. This was right after his performance in SA in '96.

First he will miss the stumps and there will be voice-over than say gone are the days when we had bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal.

Then a sweaty, determined Prasad will train hard and then come back and hit the stumps. Some perusus will now say "...bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal, venkatesh prasad.."

VP singappal theriya mandhirappunnagai seivaar.

AppidiyE light-A sEththukkaradhu dhaan.

I remember that ad :lol: What an analogy :notworthy:

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Suriyar versatile-nA, Mike Mohan is versatile as well.

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ringtone ungaLai romba baadhichchirukku :lol2:

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1. Hunchback role
2. Nandha (to an extent)
3. Pithamagan (can find replacements...)
4. ?
5. -

Plus, his so-called romantic scenes ellAm vAli ajith-E kadanthu vitta thooram. I'm not bringing in Ajith as versatile and all, but I am firm that Thala is a better actor. Both of them aren't versatile anyway.

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Kamal, Rajni, Sathyaraj, Sivaji - Versatile.

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Idhula Sathyaraj eppadi ulla vandhaaru :? :confused2:

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I am reminded of an old ad (Directors Special I think) featuring Venkatesh Prasad. This was right after his performance in SA in '96.

First he will miss the stumps and there will be voice-over than say gone are the days when we had bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal.

Then a sweaty, determined Prasad will train hard and then come back and hit the stumps. Some perusus will now say "...bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal, venkatesh prasad.."

VP singappal theriya mandhirappunnagai seivaar.

AppidiyE light-A sEththukkaradhu dhaan.

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Forget this century. If you cannot find a replacement for Hunchback Surya, can you find a replacement for Amaidhipadai Amaavasai?

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Originally Posted by viraajan

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Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha

I have a strong feeling, most of us rate artists, for any given criteria, based on our individual likes n dislikes for the aritst. Then the whole discussoin would fissle out in usual way.

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adhu thaan ka romba naala nadandhutu irukku :oops: :cry:

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apdinA Hub-a shutdown paNNa vEndiyathu thAn. I remember some post of Joe Sir and Groucho Sir sometime ago on this issue. CR, PR, ellArum kooda pEsikittu irundhaanga...

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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But there was a Malayalam original right?

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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But there was a Malayalam original right?

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M...
There is a Kannada remake as well... :lol2:

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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But there was a Malayalam original right?

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There is a Kannada remake as well... :lol2:

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You are scoring a same side goal now. Just one look at the Kannada film still will show how better Surya is :P

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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But there was a Malayalam original right?

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M...
There is a Kannada remake as well... :lol2:

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Hunchback pack-ai maathi, maathi, maatttikittaanggaloo?

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Suriyar versatile-nA, Mike Mohan is versatile as well.

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ringtone ungaLai romba baadhichchirukku :lol2:

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1. Hunchback role
2. Nandha (to an extent)
3. Pithamagan (can find replacements...)
4. ?
5. -

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Thanks for small mercies like 1-3.



I haven't seen Aaru but I understand it is one of his lesser movies.
I saw a scene where he 'rescues' a girl from a not-well meaning boy. He reprimands the boy and his parents in the girls' house and then 'advices' the girl.

Somethign like this....

unga ponnutte oru reNdu vaarthai pEsikkarEn...sister maaRi dhaan...... sosial sosial-nu solli kanda galeej-Oda suththi enna aachu paathiyA.....pethavanga pEchchai kElu etc etc

As cliched as it gets. But he was very 'convincing' and 'real'.

This is what I mean. He may be good or bad in his performances. But even his failures are a cut above 'ngrEn.

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

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Originally Posted by groucho070

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

No one else could have done the hunchback in pErazhagan

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But there was a Malayalam original right?

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M...
There is a Kannada remake as well... :lol2:

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Hunchback pack-ai maathi, maathi, maatttikittaanggaloo?

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ada...I meant no other Tamil hero currently in the 'group' as Surya.

puriyAdha maadhiriyE kELvi kEkkuradhu :twisted:

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I have a strong feeling, most of us rate artists, for any given criteria, based on our individual likes n dislikes for the aritst. Then the whole discussoin would fissle out in usual way.

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SP, adhaan discussion-ai democratic-a steer pannikittirukkomla - ippo vandhu ipdi kalaicha epdi?


Idhu poga, digression ok-nu sonnadhukku, ellroum left and right digression :evil:

Again, versatility!=spontaneity, ease of performance etc.

Ippo current candidate Madhavan. Avara pathi ellorum sollunga. Suryakku appurama varuvom

:lol: Yen, namma Kalyan Kumar irukkaarey. Devan kovil maniosai, nalla seethikal sollum manioosai....

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Forget this century. If you cannot find a replacement for Hunchback Surya, can you find a replacement for Amaidhipadai Amaavasai?

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Amaidhippadai AmAvAsai is a made-for-Satyaraj role. It is a role he has kinda of been playing before and since in some part. I will not call it a departure. If anyone else does it it will be like 'mimicking' Satyaraj.

That is not the case with the hunchback role. It was out there done in Malayalam, waiting for someone to try in Tamil.

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

You are scoring a same side goal now. Just one look at the Kannada film still will show how better Surya is :P

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//sumaal dig
a look at the malayalam film wud show how surya fares as well //

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Originally Posted by directhit

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Originally Posted by littlemaster1982

You are scoring a same side goal now. Just one look at the Kannada film still will show how better Surya is :P

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//sumaal dig
a look at the malayalam film wud show how surya fares as well //

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Surya-vai vida Dileep better-nu solreengala :roll: I haven't seen the original.

Dileep > Surya appidingreengaLA

Even though I have not seen the original I am willing to grant that point simply to prevent digression. inge yaarum illai appidingradhu dhaan panjAyathu

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Suriyar versatile-nA, Mike Mohan is versatile as well.

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ringtone ungaLai romba baadhichchirukku :lol2:

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1. Hunchback role
2. Nandha (to an extent)

3. Pithamagan (can find replacements...)
4. ?
5. -

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Thanks for small mercies like 1-3.



I haven't seen Aaru but I understand it is one of his lesser movies.
I saw a scene where he 'rescues' a girl from a not-well meaning boy. He reprimands the boy and his parents in the girls' house and then 'advices' the girl.

Somethign like this....

unga ponnutte oru reNdu vaarthai pEsikkarEn...sister maaRi dhaan...... sosial sosial-nu solli kanda galeej-Oda suththi enna aachu paathiyA.....pethavanga pEchchai kElu etc etc

As cliched as it gets. But he was very 'convincing' and 'real'.

This is what I mean. He may be good or bad in his performances. But even his failures are a cut above 'ngrEn.

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PR, idhula I am with you. He is quite convincing in his 'lesser' roles like Aaru, Vel. Very natural, if I may, as much 'nature' as possible in a masala movie
Where he is uncomfortable with:
1) The vijay-type savadal scenes like where he reels off ways to use kerosene, petrol etc in Vel
2) Ghajni mottai kind of out-of-normal characters
3) Romance - especially post marriage epdina - when revathy came back to field after marriage, one movie review went thus "kaadhal kaatchigaLil munbirundha saraLam ippodhu illai" ( Now, before marriage mattum enna vaazhndhudhamnu digress panna koodadhu - karuthai mattum eduthukkunga). One can say the same of Surya

Adhavadhu, oru masala herovukku thevaiyana sila pala vishayangaLil effort theriyudhu. Adhulaiyum net result is ok but it is the effort he takes which stands out and kind of makes you laugh

Mathabadi, the family scenes in Vel were pretty impressive. The much maligned Aaru, he was quite convincing - even the "naan podarenNa" to Vidyarthi. Your example is also very apt. In general, he is quite versatile in terms of results achieved - natural a panninara illiaiyangaradhu not relevant at all to the discussion.

Sari vidunga, inge pala peru Ringtone matter-la paadhikka pattirukanga. Sila pala varushangaLukku munnal avanga nilaimaiyila irundhadhala purinjikka mudiyudhu. (You, of course, pinjula pazhuthadhala, I reckon you might gone through this ringtone-jealousy phase by the age of 16 :-) )

LM - neenga pathuttu sollunga, if they are telecasting sometime in tv, PM panren :)

PR - that role of a hunchback aint a diffi one - the plus in that role is the comedy, and he did do well, but there are ppl who do better comedy than him in tamil anyways :huh:

//SP, adhaan discussion-ai democratic-a steer pannikittirukkomla //

ungalukku full marks kudukaren :bow:

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Madhavan:

1. lives the role with ease
2. tries variety (comedy, action, choclatey-romance, thriller)
3. Creates impact even in small roles
4. Expressions at times are repetitive, but charismatic enough to overrule the handicap.

Negatives:

1. Action roles like thambi, ae, didn't brign out the best in him
2. I wonder if he would fit in country lad roles. Suited enough only for elite presentations. If otherwise, he needs to prove himself.

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

I am reminded of an old ad (Directors Special I think) featuring Venkatesh Prasad. This was right after his performance in SA in '96.

First he will miss the stumps and there will be voice-over than say gone are the days when we had bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal.

Then a sweaty, determined Prasad will train hard and then come back and hit the stumps. Some perusus will now say "...bowlers like Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshal, venkatesh prasad.."

VP singappal theriya mandhirappunnagai seivaar.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by directhit

LM - neenga pathuttu sollunga, if they are telecasting sometime in tv, PM panren :)

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OK :D

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Originally Posted by Plum

Very natural, if I may, as much 'nature' as possible in a masala movie

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:o onniyum solradhukilla. periyavanga ellaam vela kuduthuttu interview edukkaraapla irukku :lol2: