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Did everyone else become immortal, that one specifically points out only to Shikandi or Dristadyumna?Quote:
Originally Posted by dr#
Bheesma wasn't born to destroy anyone - he too died!
Drona wasn't born to anyone - he too died!
Ultimately, everyone died, did they not?
These things happen for a purpose. One cannot hope to find morals for everything!
drona and bheeshma died in battle according to their dharma.....and to their expectations.
the ones i mentioned died ignobly, and panchali lost her children causing her great suffering. i just wanted to further illustrate that ill curses tend to backfire on the protagonists......well except drupada who ironically did die in battle.
Panchali lost her children causing her great suffering! Did all the other mothers whose children died in the battle, enjoy that? They too suffered, didn't they? Then why only point out Panchali? The fact is these things happen for a reason! One cannot go into the pros and cons or the morals of every act!Quote:
Originally Posted by dr#
i suppose so
No No it was Aswathama who killed all Pandavas children while Kriparcharya and Kritivarma were on guard, while aswathama were killing the children in the tent, while they were sleeping. Lord Krishna will this was going to happen, so he will take Pandavas to do some sort of Pooja or Yaga.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr#
Yes. Raghu is right. It was Aswatthama who killed the sons of Draupadi while they were fast asleep in their tents. The other two were forced to stand guard while Aswatthama did this. I quote from Srimad Bhagavata:
"When in course of the Mahabharata war the wrriors of the Kaurava and Pandava hosts had allen like heroes and when Duryodhana (son of Dhrtarastra) had hsi thigh broken by a stroke of the mace dealt by Bhima (who had the appetite of a wolf) Aswatthama (the son of Drona) severed the heads of Draupadi's sons while they were asleep and presented them to Duryodhana--an act which he imagined would please his master (Duryodhana) but which really proved most distasteful to him since everbody would strongly condemn such an odious act." (Srimad Bhagavata, Book One, Canto 7, Sloka 13-14)
Duryodhana was lying with his broken thighs in the battlefield. He was alive, undergoing all the pain and suffering of death for more than two days. In the meanwhile, Aswatthama went to him and asked him to be announced as Commander in Chief, in order to fight with the Pandavas who were alive. Duryodhana consented. But he did not expect this kind of foul play. He was clearly displeased and dismayed with Aswatthama.
Mr. Harikrishnan,
I understand while Duryodhana was down after he was hit on his thighs… he will chide Krishna and the pandavas by pointing out all the negative tactics used by them to eliminate their main rivals…. And while he completes his chiding… with the words…. I LIVED LIKE A KSHATRIYA… AND I AM GOING TO DIE LIKE A TRUE KSHATRIYA….
As soon as he uttered those words, I heard the Devas will shower him with flowers…. And it happened twice in that moment….. and this will make Krishna and the entire pandavas totally ashamed….
Besides, Krishna will admit that what Duryodhana said was correct, Pandavas could never have won the Kauravas through normal war methods and only by negative tactics, could have defeated…
Can you pls enlighten us on this ..
When Duryodhana was lying for 2 days, somebody could have attempted to cure him and make him fight again? After all, breaking the thighs does not mean death? Does he die because of loss of blood ? Why did not Bhishma kill him immediately , like say crushing his head etc. after breaking his thighs. Sorry for such silly questions but i'm curious to know.
Viggop,Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
The wound which Duryodhana got from Bheema was not only on his thighs ... but also on other parts of the body and it was a deadly blow.. Remember besides, the thighs were BROKEN.... How he can get cured in such a case ??? He was physically dead.. clinically alive... Had some breath to talk to Aswathama and give final instructions...
As Balaji rightly pointed out, this kind death is slow. It is something similar to dying on the crucifix. Jesus was crucified by about 9 in the morning and gave up the ghost by about 3 pm. It takes an even longer time some times. I have to give an entire description of the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by viggop
You know, with the hands raised up, spread and nailed, the lungs get constricted and breathing is restricted. Therefore, the person on the cross would try to stand erect so that the lungs may relax and function properly. He cannot stand like that with one foot nailed on the other, for a long time and his knees would buckle, making his hands hang from the cross, which would once again constrict or squeeze the lungs, as the rib cage would narrow down in such a posture. The process goes on and on. And therefore, the legs are broken at the knee joints when being crucified, so that the person cannot use his legs to stand erect. This quickens death and minimises the suffering.
Similarly, Duryodhana fell down with the blow on his thighs. He could no longer stand. Obviously, he would have been wounded with the blows of Bhima on other parts too. But breath was still running. He could see others, speak with them etc.
Even natural death is a very slow process, which most of us do not notice. Excepting in the cases of massive heart attacks and haemorrhages, natural death takes a minimum of five to six hours. I was with my father and my mother during their last hours, sensed they are sinking and watched the process. Sorry for the digression. But I just thought of sharing another information. :-)