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I just listened to the piece called "symphony". It seems to be a bunch of completely unrelated motifs played one after the other, with weird "car honking" kind of sounds acting as conjunctions. Doesn't come under any WC form I know of.
Some of the motifs are good, but they don't gel as single piece. In short it is a mess.
I don't think this is by Raja.
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Some of the motifs are good
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After another listen, I might take back this stmt.
The biggest joke in this whole thing is this piece being called a "symphony" :-)
About Music messaiah release
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-07-music.html
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...cle/28246.html
Link from Raaga says that Sooryodhayam is composed by Gnani.
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0001024.html
Is he the same IsaiGnani? :-)
link from dhool.com suggests it to be by Raaja
http://www.dhool.com/html/movie/Sooryodhayam.html
Rakkamma suggests it to be an unreleased movie
http://www.rakkamma.com/filmsongs.phtml?filmid=706
The music seems to be having some telugu flavor. it should have been a dubbed unreleased movie. anyway the 'Poo medai' song is very good and full of Raaja's style. the 'symphony' track seems to be an experiment with the local orchestra. it have promises which can be developed into full fledged WCM symphony.
the songs are not so bad..
symphony is ok, "anbu arasaala vendum" has pretty good violin arrangement, poomedai is also ok.
on second thoughts, it sounds like one of those IR-clone efforts, like "oomai vizhigal" - great violin arrangements in those songs too.
not a bad effort at all, in both cases.
My guess was correct then. This is a horrible. I mean even the worst of IR songs stand much better than this. This can not be IR's. Symphony was okay - but heard similar symphonies in many WCM - so probably a rip off from somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by sudhakarg
Is this guy Gnani the one who critizes IR (including TIS is not a symphony etc)? Wondering :!:
RS,
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the 'symphony' track seems to be an experiment with the local orchestra. it have promises which can be developed into full fledged WCM symphony.
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The whole problem with this track is its lack of theme and structure which would fit it into a well known WCM form (like a concerto - containing a fast-slow-fast movement form, / fugue - the same theme being played by multiple instruments with a 'phase' lag).
A collection of motifs played by an orchestra doesn't make it a good piece. It looks like a some BG Scores of the movie were played sequentially to form this piece. I can't believe a master-of-structured-music like Raja cud've come up with such a totally disorganized piece with no directions.
njv,
The motifs played there are too common in WCM. Many WCM composers use these kind of motifs while writing "parts". In a typical concerto, the soloists would have the interesting & original themes/motifs, and the 'tutti' would have such filler kind of scores.
If you really want to know more about how a good concerto might sound, Pls find Bach's Brandenburg Concertos 4 & 5 (if not all 6), and listen to them to see what I mean.
PS: Who said Thiruvasagam is a symphony. Raja never claimed it to be one. Symphony probably is the most abused term in TFM...A composer comes up with a theme played by an orchestra and calls it a symphonic score - like bharadwaj uncle said that he was motivated to write a symphony after listening to thiruvasagam...Uncle neither knew it wasn't a symphony, nor did he know writing a symphony is not like composing songs like "katta...katta...katta...katta...nAttu kattai.." :-)