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Not true. Another ritual or custom will be invented to sustain male domination. Can you destroy a plant just because it has lots of weeds growing around it. Pull out the weeds and not the plant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jilaba
If the dowry system can be eradicated in Europe, it can be done in India also.
Varathatchanai kodumai?? mmmmmmmmm
Is it really kodumai or does it exist because girls are trying to marry above their status/wealth. All said and done the world is mostly about money. How many post graduate girls are willing to marry a +2 failed jobless man who has no soththu or even a post graduate with no job/soththu? Everybody tries to climb the social money ladder by either marrying money, job or dowry. In that sense, girls are equally guilty of soththu or velai or visa kodumai like men are guilty of varathatchanai kodumai.
Are all marriages upwardly mobile? Many families actually become downwardly mobile after marrying off their daughters. How can you blame only girls when its actually the families that are arranging the marriage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MazhaiKuruvi
Are marriages between equals devoid of dowry?
Dowry is a social custom that was invented to empower women in days when women were not on equal footings with their male counterparts. It has been wrongly utilized and has aided and sustained male domination.
And now women are blamed for bringing all this upon themselves.
Its IMO similar to the Taliban policy of wearing the viel. ' Don't blame men for eve-teasing and other :evil: things. It is the women who are tempting them by not wearing the veil. If women wear the veil, why would a man be tempted to do all the :twisted: things he does.'
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How come women end up taking all the blame for the evils penetrated upon them.
mazhaikuruvi..
its not necessary for a girl to marry a jobless boy just to show that she is not behind money.
She can marry him only if she loves him so that his status is not going to be a hindrance for their journey together.
Jilaba..
male chauvinism appdinnu oNNu irukku enbadhaRkAga female chauvinism enru onRai uruvAkka vENdiyadhu anAvasiyam.
The world is changing. Future generation kitta azhuthamAga solla vENdiyadhai solli manadhil padhiya vaithAl pOdhum.
pazhikku pazhi... :angry2: revenge.. :rant: idhellAm TV serialukku mattum irukkattumE ! :P
Jilaba neenga neraya TV serials paakureenga pola :lol2:
I dont think that male chauvinism exist a lot. I certainly feel that in certain family female chauvinism exist too....!
Chumma pazhaya kadhya pesitrukaadheenga...almost all literates here gives equal importance to his partner! 8-)
So, you clearly accept that, males are always thinking and inventing new methods & ways to dominate the ladies always. They will never allow ladies to live peacefully. The main way for their domination is 'marriage'. First it should be deleted from the society. Males will will never do such deletion. So, the females must boycot marriages and should stand in their own legs, without the support of any male dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsath
Pazhaya kadhai illai ss. Just read thru this article which says that two third women face domestic violence in India. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanguine Sridhar
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=56501
Jilaba, there is no denying that India is a male dominated society. Let me try my argument with a relative and valid example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jilaba
Sati was a cruel custom. If Raja Ram Mohan Roy went by your policy - women stop marrying - no marriage, no widows and hence no sati. Sati abolished - everyone happy !!!!! . If that was the case then we would not be living now to tell the story of successful sati abolition.
If women stop marrying now, there won’t be any future generations to tell the story of successful dowry eradication.
Sollunga ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jilaba
neenga enna census specialist aaa ;-) kodila onnu, lakshathula oruthanga, aayirathula onnu nnu cinema dialogue maadiri solreenga ;-) indha one in thousand kadhai ellam malai eri poyaachungo........ every learned individual has learnt to give respect to their partner .... seri unga paani la sollanum nna every other person :-) neenga dhaan partnership vendam nnu solreengale ....
Kalyanam vendam nna ..... ofcourse.... u have the right to choose that :-) ofcourse to propagate that :-) and even live by it .... unga pakkam nyayam nnu ninaikkardhai sollunga ... every person has their right to speak :-) but eduthukkiravangalai force panna mudiyaadhu .... that is their will :-)
Varadhatchanai kodumai ...... endha kaalathula nga irukkeenga .... ippo ellam MARRIAGES la OPENLY " DO NOT BRING GIFTS, MANAMAKKALAI AASIRVADHITHAL PODHUM" nnu poduradhai neenga paathadhillayaa .... gift kku kooda - also boys parents arent asking for anything ......... penn oda appa amma kalyana selavai seivaanga - probably tats happenning in some places coz adhu avanga ishtam .... ethanayo love marriages nadakkudhu ;-) anga ellam beramaa nadakkudhu ?????
u are too generalizing ..... naanum generalize panna virumbala .....
adimai paduthraanga nnu solreenag ... appadi onnu nadandhaa en paathukittu summa irukkeenga .... adiyoda ozhikkavendiyadhu unga kadamai illayaa !
This article by Swapna Majumdar is a must read for everyone who think that educated men treat their wives equally.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingleguy
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1591
Some quotes from the article
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While the findings are not new, the study has incubated a new round of debate about the cultural underpinnings to domestic violence, especially in India, where the study found a woman's risk of being beaten, kicked or hit rose along with her level of education.
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According to the 2002 study, 45 percent of Indian women are slapped, kicked or beaten by their husbands. India also had the highest rate of violence during pregnancy. Of the women reporting violence, 50 percent were kicked, beaten or hit when pregnant. About 74.8 percent of the women who reported violence have attempted to commit suicide.
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researchers found that the highest rates of sexual violence were among highly educated men. Thirty-two percent of men with zero years of education and 42 percent men with one-to-five years of education reported sexual violence. Among men with six-to-10 years of education--as well as those with high-school education and higher--this figure increased to 57 percent.
A similar pattern was seen when the problem was analyzed according to income and socioeconomic standing. Those at the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder--migrant labor, cobblers, carpenters, and barbers--showed a sexual violence rate of 35 percent. The rate almost doubled to 61 percent among the highest income groups.
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Activists felt that for intervention strategies to succeed, attitudes about violence would have to change and the level of awareness, among both men and women, about the negative impact of violence had to be raised.