A shame

dsath ....

so u mean, wat i meant is wrong ?????

u mean to say, WOMEN are silent and always on the receiving end ...... seri .... ippadi irukkattum .... tell me a solution ..... lets see wat do u have in ur mind ....

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Originally Posted by bingleguy

appadi onnu nadandhaa en paathukittu summa irukkeenga .... adiyoda ozhikkavendiyadhu unga kadamai illayaa !
dsath ....

so u mean, wat i meant is wrong ?????

u mean to say, WOMEN are silent and always on the receiving end ...... seri .... ippadi irukkattum .... tell me a solution ..... lets see wat do u have in ur mind ....

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The answer to your original question is in the article itself.

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Kumud Sharma of the Centre for Women's Development Studies in New Delhi traced the correlation between education and domestic violence to patriarchal attitudes. "Educated women are aware of their rights," she said. "They are no longer willing to follow commands blindly. When they ask questions, it causes conflicts, which, in turn, leads to violence. In many Indian states, working women are asked to hand over their paycheck to the husband and have no control over their finances. So, if they stop doing so or start asserting their right, there is bound to be friction."

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Women are not remaining silent anymore within the families and that is the reason for increased domestic violence in educated families. In fact the women based NGOs face a tough time reaching/helping middle class and upper middle class women, as they don't want to come out in open. They fear for the family honour and their reputation.

ys ... this is wat even i am trying to say .... i never said that CHAUVNISM is never there :-) adhu irundhudhu, irukkudhu .... but these days it has changed a lot .....

my question also is ....... wat is the use just talking about it ..... makkalukku poi seranum illayaa ????

i am aware of wat i am ..... so most of the thoughts would come as ...... what i think ..... about this .... wat i would do about this .... Quoting articles can just be references ... i wanted UR opinion ..... wat do U think about this :-) What are U goin to do for this :-)

so tell me how is the society gonna fight this ? THE SOLUTION ....

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Originally Posted by dsath

:notthatway: Jilaba, although i understand you. Rejecting marriage is not the right path for championing women's rights.
Male chauvinism is a spectrum, some are extreme, some are mild and a miniscule minority has none at all.
Rejecting marriage is escapism, why should women give up the right to become mothers because of chauvinistic men. We should not try to evade this problem, but try to solve it. If not this generation may be the future generations would benefit. 8-)
Wouldn't it be better to reform the society and appreciate the positive changes that are happening like the NDTV news story.
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Originally Posted by Jilaba

'Varadhatchinai Kodumai' is purely based on the marriage only. If the women decided to avoid marriages, then within fraction of minutes, this will disappear.

True or not..???.

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Not true. Another ritual or custom will be invented to sustain male domination. Can you destroy a plant just because it has lots of weeds growing around it. Pull out the weeds and not the plant.
If the dowry system can be eradicated in Europe, it can be done in India also.

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Originally Posted by MazhaiKuruvi

Varathatchanai kodumai?? mmmmmmmmm

Is it really kodumai or does it exist because girls are trying to marry above their status/wealth. All said and done the world is mostly about money. How many post graduate girls are willing to marry a +2 failed jobless man who has no soththu or even a post graduate with no job/soththu? Everybody tries to climb the social money ladder by either marrying money, job or dowry. In that sense, girls are equally guilty of soththu or velai or visa kodumai like men are guilty of varathatchanai kodumai.

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Are all marriages upwardly mobile? Many families actually become downwardly mobile after marrying off their daughters. How can you blame only girls when its actually the families that are arranging the marriage.
Are marriages between equals devoid of dowry?
Dowry is a social custom that was invented to empower women in days when women were not on equal footings with their male counterparts. It has been wrongly utilized and has aided and sustained male domination.
And now women are blamed for bringing all this upon themselves.

Its IMO similar to the Taliban policy of wearing the viel. ' Don't blame men for eve-teasing and other :evil: things. It is the women who are tempting them by not wearing the veil. If women wear the veil, why would a man be tempted to do all the :twisted: things he does.'
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How come women end up taking all the blame for the evils penetrated upon them.

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Originally Posted by madhu

mazhaikuruvi..

its not necessary for a girl to marry a jobless boy just to show that she is not behind money.
She can marry him only if she loves him so that his status is not going to be a hindrance for their journey together.

Jilaba..

male chauvinism appdinnu oNNu irukku enbadhaRkAga female chauvinism enru onRai uruvAkka vENdiyadhu anAvasiyam.
The world is changing. Future generation kitta azhuthamAga solla vENdiyadhai solli manadhil padhiya vaithAl pOdhum.

pazhikku pazhi... :angry2: revenge.. :rant: idhellAm TV serialukku mattum irukkattumE ! :P

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Originally Posted by Jilaba

'Varadhatchinai Kodumai' is purely based on the marriage only. If the women decided to avoid marriages, then within fraction of minutes, this will disappear.

True or not..???.

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Not true. Another ritual or custom will be invented to sustain male domination. Can you destroy a plant just because it has lots of weeds growing around it. Pull out the weeds and not the plant.

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So, you clearly accept that, males are always thinking and inventing new methods & ways to dominate the ladies always. They will never allow ladies to live peacefully. The main way for their domination is 'marriage'. First it should be deleted from the society. Males will will never do such deletion. So, the females must boycot marriages and should stand in their own legs, without the support of any male dogs.

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Jilaba, your vehement hatred of 'marriage' makes me ask you one question? Are you advocating celibacy for women or 'living together' without formally getting married??? :roll:

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Originally Posted by Jilaba

'Varadhatchinai Kodumai' is purely based on the marriage only. If the women decided to avoid marriages, then within fraction of minutes, this will disappear.

True or not..???.

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Not true. Another ritual or custom will be invented to sustain male domination. Can you destroy a plant just because it has lots of weeds growing around it. Pull out the weeds and not the plant.

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So, you clearly accept that, males are always thinking and inventing new methods & ways to dominate the ladies always. They will never allow ladies to live peacefully. The main way for their domination is 'marriage'. First it should be deleted from the society. Males will will never do such deletion. So, the females must boycot marriages and should stand in their own legs, without the support of any male dogs.

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Jilaba, there is no denying that India is a male dominated society. Let me try my argument with a relative and valid example.
Sati was a cruel custom. If Raja Ram Mohan Roy went by your policy - women stop marrying - no marriage, no widows and hence no sati. Sati abolished - everyone happy !!!!! . If that was the case then we would not be living now to tell the story of successful sati abolition.
If women stop marrying now, there won’t be any future generations to tell the story of successful dowry eradication.

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Originally Posted by Jilaba

'Varadhatchinai Kodumai' is purely based on the marriage only. If the women decided to avoid marriages, then within fraction of minutes, this will disappear.

True or not..???.

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Not true. Another ritual or custom will be invented to sustain male domination. Can you destroy a plant just because it has lots of weeds growing around it. Pull out the weeds and not the plant.

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So, you clearly accept that, males are always thinking and inventing new methods & ways to dominate the ladies always. They will never allow ladies to live peacefully. The main way for their domination is 'marriage'. First it should be deleted from the society. Males will will never do such deletion. So, the females must boycot marriages and should stand in their own legs, without the support of any male dogs.

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Jilaba, your vehement hatred of 'marriage' makes me ask you one question? Are you advocating celibacy for women or 'living together' without formally getting married??? :roll:

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huh :roll: :-)