situation song from the da same movie "thEdum kanparvai thavika thudika" :lol2: :yessir:Quote:
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situation song from the da same movie "thEdum kanparvai thavika thudika" :lol2: :yessir:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Builduplaam nalla irundhudhu. Chappunnu mudichittingale app. Ninga romba nallavaru - expecting baroque to comment on this song/tale without fail. Nichayamaa varum paarunga
vachchukkittA vanjakam paNROm? uLLadhE ambuttuththAnE :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
(BTW, I watched this 'ninaivilE ninRavaL' B&W movie on TV last week, starring Ravichandran, Nagesh, Cho, KRV, Manorama.
Lot of hilarious moments.
The most interesting part is Manorama telling this 'vachchukkittA vanjakam paNROm' dialog when Nagesh questions her intelligence)
One of our silent hubbers PM-ed me about the 'Hare Radha Hare Krishna' movie of 1986 (Kamal-Sridevi, dubbed from Telugu) and reminded me about those songs.
Unfortunately, I don't remember listening to any of them before and can hardly relate to them / post about them.
I'll have to pass them...if someone had liking for them, please post :-)
Meanwhile, there are a few more SPB-IR numbers from 1986 that I'll need to post about and complete that year...
There is this very sweet kAthirundhEn SPB-SJ duet from the same year, from 'dharma paththini'.
Unfortunately, I'm hearing this for the first time and thus don't know whether this was a hit song at all. OTOH, everyone of us know the popularity of the IR-SJ number 'nAn thEdum sevvanthippoovidhu' from the same movie...
So, skippu...
There're 3 relatively light-weight songs that will get posted today and then we'll move on to the last album of the year 1986 tomorrow.
That has 2 fantastic SPB numbers which will also get us to the 250 mark this week :-)
Need some help from fellow hubbers to decide which one should be #250 among those two :-)
reNdu viralla onnaiththodunga :
(suttu viral) duet with SJ
or
(nadu viral) solo...
BTW, the movie was a remake of a Malayalam movie *ing Mammootty / Nadhiya.
#246 ஓ வானம்பாடி
(சாதனை, 1986 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Whether this movie directed by A S Prakasam (who earlier did 'echchil iravukaL' that had 'poo mEla veesum poongAththe en mEl veesa mAttAya' sweetie in the voices of KJY/VJ) did sAthanai in BO or not is not clear. They used to advertise on radio specifically about IR's music as 'rAsA vada indhiya isaiyil inimai seyyum thiraippadam' followed by 'aththi marappoovidhu' sound clip. Sivaji-Prabhu starrer where NT did the role of a film director and it should have had some decent run (unless the director did an extremely poor job). We need to request Murali sir for more details on that count.
I have heard both this sweet SPB-SJ duet and the SJ solo (aththi marappoovidhu, my favourite) frequently on radio / buses. The MV song 'ingE nAn kaNdEn' was quite popular as well. (I guess that was for NT - going by MV's voice -and the SPB songs were possibly for Prabhu). There are two more SPB-SJ duets - rAja mOhini and vAzhvE vA and I've hardly heard them before and so cannot post about. The songs are quite sweet, however, regardless of their hit status. Either A S Prakasam had good sense of music or rAsA was at his creative peak that nothing could go wrong or IR did put extra effort for the sake of NT-Prabhu combo. Whatever was the reason, the album has many sweet numbers...
Well, per wikipedia, there could be another reason for extra-interest of rAsA :
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Ilaiyaraaja also appears in the film as himself.
Wow.. lovely posts App for MTK songs :clap: :clap: :clap: ...thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts about the times you spent in Kerala and in Coimbatore as well. Brings back fond memories for me as well.
Inge Naan Kanden is my favorite in Sadhanai and I love O Vanambadi as well. Very sweet album. IR's scene in the film is like him composing a tune for NT who is the director. It came out quite well, I forgot the song though, it could be for O Vanambadi.
it is by Prof.A.S.Prakasam. He was supposed to do a movie on U.Ve.Sa (thamizh thaatha *ing Kamal which never materialized).Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
#247 கல்லுக்குள்ளே வந்த ஈரம் என்ன
(மனிதனின் மறுபக்கம் , 1986 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Sweet SPB-SJ duet with IR's signature tablA rhythm and sweet strings / guitar work! Another K Rangaraj movie, the director who worked as BR's assistant for a while and then did unnai nAn sandhiththEn / udhaya geetham with motherland pictures. Outside that production house, his remarkable album during early 80's with rAsA was 'nilavu suduvathillai' that had two awesome songs (pArijAtham pagalil pooththadhu & nALum un manam - terrific KJY duets). On the flip side, he was in KBR's company by employing someone other than IR as MD for his first film (after serving as an assistant to BR).
K Rangaraj's first movie was 'nenjamellAm neeyE' and it had S-G as MDs (there was this nice song - 'yAradhu sollAmal nenjaLLippOvadhu' by VJ from that movie). He came to IR after that like every other assistant of BR, for nilavu suduvathillai and got that awesome score. I don't know about all his films but remember the two he did for motherland pictures that had IR (UNS & UG, as mentioned before). After that, in 1986 he did a couple of movies and manithanin maRupakkam is one of them. (Like unakkAkavE vAzhkiREn, this one too was possibly a remake from some Malayalam movie.)
I have heard this song a few times on buses but never paid close attention those days. Never owned it on personal collections then either. However, a couple of years back, I got it on a disk from my sis and was playing it frequently on car. An OK kind of song which sounds rAgA based - the saraNam melody is more interesting than the pallavi and SJ is awesome there. To avoid repeating this fact, let me make this statement : "On 99% of rAsA songs, saraNam had a much better tune / melody than the pallavi IMO" :-) That is one of the main reasons for longevity of rAsA songs as well sustaining of interest through out any song.
By contrast, most popular songs of later-day MDs have weak saraNams (after catchy pallavis, thALakkozhuppu etc) and cannot hold my interest for more than a minute or so. That apart, they also have not-so-distinct interludes and thus not listenable end to end even once (let alone repeat). I don't think most music-fans of today care either. There are few songs that are known by preludes / interludes / saraNams anymore. All that the listeners today seem to care are a catchy "beat" and "two catchy lines of pallavi - or just one line with repeattu". why this kolaveRi makkaLE? :wink: (This is not a TN-only trend...my son listens to local / western music mostly and I can see him frequently skipping his so called "favourite" songs after only a minute or so, quickly browsing for the next one. They cannot sustain his interest for even the whole 4-5 minutes. No wonder kolaveRi is so popular among his American collegemates who have it on their FB pages...actually, that's how he got to hear that song and got it on his iPad making me hear it for the first time. Thanks to my wife's vociferous objection, my ears don't get polluted anymore with that youtube hit that has supposedly given dinner rights to Dhanush with Manmohan Singh :shock:)
nanRi, rajkumarc!
Interesting info on ThamizhththAththA, jai!
BTW, raj & jai, what is the number you want as #250? duettA / sOlOvA, from unakkAkavE vAzhkiREn?
#248 தண்ணி தவிக்குது தண்ணி தவிக்குது வண்ணக்கிளி
(தாய்க்கு ஒரு தாலாட்டு , 1986 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Another SPB song from a NT movie and I don't know who does the udhattasaivu for this on-screen. Possibly for some son kind of character as it's difficult to imagine NT (of 1986) dancing around for this song. A beatsy themmAngu that's completely in the rAsA domain (and the structure possibly got reused a few times later on as well).
This album was quite famous for two reasons :
1. Raja did a full-fledged remix of a MSV-TKR number from pudhiya paRavai. ('unnai onRu kEtpEn uNmai solla vENdum' has become 'pazhaya pAdal pOla puthiya pAdal illai'). Though he had used portions of older songs in medley kind of format earlier, there was never a total repeat of a single old song like this IIRC.
2. TMS singing again for IR, after some gap (Those who frequently term IR as an arrogant man please take note). Interestingly, the original unnai onRu kEtpEn was a PS solo but the remix was a duet.
The other interesting thing about this movie was the import of Balachandra Menon from MF to direct. He was quite popular in MF during early-80's (TN magazines used to call him Kerala's Bagyaraj) and was the first hero / director for Shobana (April 18). With MF having its golden age during 80's, every other field was looking at them with admiration & awe. Only a year before, TF had that awesome Fazil movie 'poovE poochchooda vA' that was nothing like what the viewers got as their regular dose and became a huge hit!
There was thirst for more from the arabikkadal theerangaL. So, Balachandra menon got imported to direct Sivaji (name pronounced as "BalEndra" menon :lol:, MGR is known as MG RamEndran in Kerala as they have the habit of swallowing "ch" when it comes in the middle. OTOH, they pronounce "Ch" very clearly in the names such as Chandrika, Chandran etc...BTW, I always remember Chandrika soap very favorably, not for the soappu but the family that owned the company...a young couple from that family helped me reack KG in their Maruthi after I spent > 30 min lying on highway a few years later - with mARu kAl mARu kai heavily fractured in a hero honda -truck collision, desparate & slowly losing hope)...
I don't think TOT was a runaway hit like PPV. Possibly a moderate success (again we need encyclopaedia Murali sir's help). The songs were moderately popular and almost 100% of my listens were either on buses or teakkadais around the Cbe region. ArArirO pAdiyathArO thoongippOnadhArO is such a sweet KJY gem. 'kAdhalA-kAdhalA' is an interesting IR-KSC duet as well).
Now I've caught up and will await makkaL's verdict on which to post tomorrow - whether it will be iLanchOlai or kaNNA unaiththEdukiREn vA :-)
(My preference for #250 is obvious as usual, duettu)
Great going App.
I remember that aroundthe time Mella Thirandhadhu kadhavu came, we had the Asian Games where PT Usha had 4 golds. Actually for about 4-5 days of the games, we watched the highlights daily which ended with the medals tally and India's name was not there for few days :rotfl3:
It was a humble weightlifter from TN, Muthusami, who got India's first medal(bronze). A week later, when Athletics started, Usha got 4 golds.
Any paraparappu in Kerala Nadu when Usha's achievements happened?
BTW, I am excited to look forward to picks for 1987 that are coming up...wont spoil the suspense by telling the movie names :)
Nice posts App... love Kallukulle Vandha Eeram enna.. the tune is so soothing and special. This movie has two other nice songs - Santhosam Indru (KSC i think) and Oomai Nenjin (KJY).
My pick for #250 is Kanna Unnai Thedugiren (i'm floored by the string section in this song throughout and also the entry of SPB midway into the song and the way he renders, it sounds so reassuring and makes a compelling listen).
Inspired from this (in case no one mentioned):Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PdL5VnbXnw
thanks groucho.
MSV mentioned in a tv interview that it was taken from his hindi song Chandi Rani, which is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx59B...eature=related
however in the above link, a commenter states the original was in telugu and later dubbed into tamil/hindi.
Ah, that's news to me al. Thanks for the info.
Hi app sir,
Nice reading your memories related to MTK and Vaa vennila.... othe sivappu roja vacha ponnu, salwar, bus stop, parvai parimaatranggal , appdiye ore 80's pada scene paartha matiri irukku .. :D
Great going!!
Vaa vennila, what a honey soaked, breezy song,,, My most fav song from the movie. Once the clapping starts in the beginning of the song, one cannot restrain from getting in to the mood of the song and my heart melts away... Laaalaa by SJ,,,sweet & mellow.SPB never fails to add extra aural elation through his magnetic voice presence & singing...
As you mentioned one of the best Albums in TFm for sure, Kaalathai thaandi nikkum isaippadaipukkal. :bow: mSV & IR ..
Never heard of the duet frm Thaaikku oru thalattu, My pick from that movie are Kaathala2 (IR & KSC duet) & the extremely sad soulful Aarariro... Thank you fr introducing this song App sir :)
for saang #250 , I vote for the duet too ~~ Kanna Unnai Thedugiren ~~~ another heart melter ~~~
Sadhanai.
I remember that whenever interviewer ask NT why he didn't become a director, he would say that he at least played a film director. The movie had a good subject, but poorly handled.
Was it this film or another that Prabhu got his back whacked by NT? He would later recall lin a concert how they put a board to absorb the whacking but bloody hell it was still aching :lol:
app, as usual :thumbsup: I'll go with majority with duet simply because the other song was ruined by cinema markandeyan :evil:
App, I remember watching this during a college show. Some sridevi/golt-movie fans got it for screening.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
I think it followed typical telugu formula and we all had quite fun watching it (for the wrong reasons). There was one hit
song 'paravam uruga' (which got some air time I guess). Sound like a rehash of 'vaan pole vannam kondu' -
i.e. 'telugu-kuthu' formula.
So.. I guess you can safely skip this album :smile2:
:-D @a_e any song is fine. Manmadhan Ambu
Forgiveness angle is inspired frm this movie.
So any matching sichuveshan song irundhaa
Play pannunga. Unlike grumpy grouch,traumatic
Visions of surya appa don't haunt me that much.
nanRi, al_gates:-)
Ofcourse, she was on the cover of every mag / talk of the town everywhere!Quote:
Originally Posted by al_gates
thangappEN!
nanRi rajkumarc, Divine22 & groucho for your kind comments!
Thank you groucho, for the youtube of the original of 'vA veNNilA'.
Going by the responses so far, it looks like iLanchOlai will be #249 & kaNNA #250...
Thank you RR sir, for the thagaval on HRHK!
The only think I remember about that movie was a poster in Palakkad where Kamal was sporting some fancy sun glasses...
jaiganes,
Is the section from M-ambu inspired from Shyama (original of unakkAgavE vAzhkiREn) or HRHK?
I couldn't get from your post...neither did I have a chance to watch the last KH movie :oops:
பருவம் உருக இதயம் தவிக்க
இனிய குழலில் யமுனை முழுதும் பொங்க அலை பொங்க ...
lovely lovely song, app_eng!:musicsmile:
love the lilting composition, Janu & Bala's singing is jillunnu!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfL7Sea1Ho
listen to the prelude humming... none can lure the great man like Janu!
it brings out the teen age kushi in me....:-D
I love these compositions , Raja conjures playful mood with mirudhangam..
remember முல்லை அரும்பே
மெல்லத் திரும்பு
என்னக் குறும்பு ....
vinatha.
#249 இளஞ்சோலை பூத்ததா
(உனக்காகவே வாழ்கிறேன், 1986 )
I've posted sometime back on the "last-heard-song" thread about the strong appeal this song had towards a group of Detroitters in a socializing setting when I played an assorted set of IR songs on CD. Interestingly, every other song in that CD was "catchier" if one goes by pop culture. The group did have a couple of musicals but most others (from a variety of backgrounds) also preferred this number and insisted in getting a copy of the song. It was quite an enlightening experience to me on the real appeal of this song! We often tend to think that ICM (ok ok semi-ICM) numbers may not appeal to foreigners but this song is a proof against :-)
SPB is at his smoothy peak! What an anAyAsam with which he sings difficult songs like this! Likewise, rAsA in full flow - both in the construction of the melody that is smooth / soothing and the brilliant arrangements / orchestration. no pisiRu or no appazhukku! Very repeatable / enjoyable number, with SPB & percussion the two prime aspects!
I don't remember hearing this song much during the 80's, however. OTOH, the Kanna song was a regular in buses which I always link to one terrific recording center near the Oddanchatram bus stand (that played that song in loud volume). It's possible buses played 'iLanchOlai' along with kaNNA but I didn't register them together because of not knowing the movie name or any other related info. (More on the movie name hunt of kaNNa song in tomorrow's post).
So, my appreciation for this number is quite recent. New finds like this make one wonder how many more treasures are there to be unearthed. Not that they were "rare" ones or not hits in their time. It's just that there were simply too many coming out during the later part of 80's & not-living-in-TN put one at a disadvantage of not perfectly updated :-( (I think Sureshji had this experience as well and we often get surprised when he declares some numbers as 'first-time-listen' even though they were big hits in TN).
Anyways, better late than never! Songs like iLanchOlai should not be missed in life!
Like I mentioned before, this movie was directed by K Rangaraj & was a remake of Mammooty-Nadhiya Malayalam movie "Shyama" that was running in Palakkad during my first few months there. The songs in that movie are superb as well (not IR). Watched that on a DVD couple of years back - ok movie - but definitely don't want to watch the TF :wink:
dhool has hosted this song and there're some interesting comments by our forum regulars such as genesis, Vinatha (baroque) & Usha chEchi as well as old Df-ers (bb, Udhaya, Saravanan) who became dhool pillars.
app,
Yes. I do have the experience of discovering a major Tamil hit (which was not known in Hyd) many a times.
'ilamcholai' I heard first in a tape titled 'Raagas of Raja' (It has all excellent numbers) A favorite tape of my wife as well and we have played multiple times in my car. Based on Dharmavathi / Madhuvanthi, this is an extremely melodious song. A very typical Raja semi ICM melody. A must hear.
I can't resist quoting one interesting info from dhool Saravanan here :
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I still recall Senthil struggling to bring peace between his two wives; I forget who those 2 actresses were, but their on screen names were Suseela & Janaki! And he finally puts an end to their quarrels by threatening to marry another girl called Jikki :roll:
App, I agree with the feller in the link who felt "oh endhan vaazhvile" is the better one from the movie :)
Years back, Ramki has hosted this in the pick of the week ...
If someone is planning to watch this movie (or Malayalam Shyama), please don't read the above post as it has the full story :-) However, don't miss the posts that follow that are quite interesting. Ramki & RR discuss on the rAgA of the song...
wonderful selection, App_eng.
Yes.. indeed a superlative composition.
Bala has sung dharmavathi earlier in his career.
Remember NANDHA EN NILAA.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKLFW3CXO8
Lata-Madhan mohan combo's madhuvanthi - Rasm-e-ulfat ko nibhaayen......is emotive composition. soulful.
vinatha.
nandha en nilaa.... is an eternal composition.
ippo ivvalavu joraa paadindu erukkaa...smooth like butter.:-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOSPts_OqtA
Vinatha.
Interesting videos, nanRi baroque!
ilanjOlai pooththadhA youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txt2_dhMVuo
Thanks Baroque. Look at him enjoying himself. When I was a kid I always objected him putting his own twist to the songs, always wanted them to be exactly the same. But these days I really enjoy watching him improvising. I mean, I'd rather listen to the original if I want it the same. During concerts, you should get something additional, and this man delivers. Awesome rendition.Quote:
Originally Posted by baroque
Thanks vinatha,
I don't remember I have listed the sweet 'paruvam uraga' song before. Probably because of that flop movie.
Great going App as usual :thumbsup: You are too fast to catch up. :smile: Please give me some time, lot of my favorite songs posted that too in my favorite year 1986.
App anna
Your help needed here pls
http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthrea...sionals/page18
thanks
yeah... groucho, he enjoys himself, he sings for his pleasure & heart's content that's why we feel the aathma in his singing.
appadiye ondri poyee...:)
Me too, prefer the original, composer's version we often listen but singer's like Bala's improvisation is enchanting.
thanks, San :).
Good app_eng, I was thinking, I should have posted the featured song's video.
Did not want to steal the thunder from IR-SPB with Nandha en nilaa......DMurthy-S.P.B.
Can't help it, NANDHA EN NILAA.... is a classic.
Vinatha.