Violence against women

Coming back to the hub after a long vacation I am happy to go through the valuable thoughts posted here. A healthy trend towards more awareness to the matter shall surely lead to beneficial results. For a very long time a sad tradition has been allowed to continue in our society.
Let me be precise: there has been a marked gender inequality in the family which naturally extended into the society. Male population enjoyed partiality; their foibles were condoned; an unquestioned priority was given to them. Mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters also joined in this conspiracy. The men and boys were treated like a superior species. It is futile to go into the causes for this practice.
But lately with social reformation and enlightenment, with equal opportunities of education and employment for both the sexes women today find themselves in a very favourable environment. But the men find it hard to get out of their habits of superiority deeply embedded in their psyche. In course of time, let us hope, men shall get accustomed to the normal, fair share of respect that women deserve.
The family plays a big role in bringing about this change. We need more mothers like blah blah’s. Educational institutions should think it their duty to inculcate good values in young minds.
Last but not least, MEDIA should stop projecting women as cheap sex symbols.
Apropos this subject, let me reproduce the thoughts expressed in a recent newspaper article titled, “Perils of peer pressure”. A study of youths aged 16-24 years from (1)slums,(2)college-going students found out the masculinity norms they had. Their ideal of a “real man” was one who was dominant, aggressive, sexually powerful, potent and controls women. They expected the “real woman” to be submissive, both sexually and otherwise, and to to drink, become addicted to substance abuse, visit sex workers, get into fights and harass women- proving themselves to be a man is found important. These young men are under a lot of pressure to subscribe to their group’s masculinity norms.
Aren’t these expectations, the violence-provoking trends being aided and abetted by the tinsel world and its smaller but more powerful version- the television?

Hi pavalamani nice thoughts.
But i think many women too want a husband who is superior to them in all aspects. Nowadays the first think they look for in man is he should be employed in better job than hers. they dont give character first preference.

How a man treats woman basically comes from how he was brought up in family. Its does'nt mean if he is highly educated he will be good. All these things come from heart not from brain. When i was a kid my parents always thought me to share everything and love my sister(if i smack my sister my mum will smack me twice hi hi). So it got embedded in my mind . i feel very angry if anybody beats up a woman.
But some familes do show partiality right from kids. One of aunt she always scold her daughter no matter what her son do to his sis.
There are more educated women out there. They could start imbibe these values into their kids.And dont put all the blame on men.

NOTE:- don't expect indian men to behave like white men. You know what they expect(yeah they talk soft & nice) and after they Get(###) what they want they will run away.

What Visu is quite true. Two points are clear: our men are different; family values taught from childhood are important.
I also agree that women are guilty of bringing about whatever unpleasantness we may find in our lives.( It is a known fact here that my sympathy is for the male kind! :) . I feel men are sometimes more wronged than wronging. :( .
Even in today's "Open page" of The Hindu there is a very sensible article on the present day woman's freedom- is it a blessing or bane. The write-up echoes my ideas, it has even almost quoted my words in my former posting here, "Pollution" :!:

Except few human segment (example a tribal society in China), all other societies are filled with thought of men supremacy. Even after education, women are bonded with so many invisible and visible rules set by the men, mostly derived from existing social beliefs called culture and religions. All the beauty contests, make-up advertisements, cat-walks and in many forms, nice brain washing is going on to keep the female as lesser human being. Women freedom wish also today commercialized and totally misguided. Great brain washing is done also by giving unrealistic holy status (many Tamil movies, you can find…). Without coming out those real clutches, there is no freedom. I can write more about the core problems without beating around the bush, but I am worried whether this thread is meant for that or not.

Please go ahead, r_kk! what else do you think is this forum for?
I wish to have healthy discussions about gullible women being duped around the world by avaricious, lecherous agencies. What else could be wished for more than true dignity of womanhood to be established?

You might have heard the story of Ameena, a young child from Hyderabad married to an Old Arab seikh who had been stopped from flying from India by air hostess. It is not a just once incident. Deccan Chronicle revealed that still lot of Hyderabadi Muslim girls are virtually sold off by poor parents to rich old Saudis every year. If you read the following article you will know how serious is this issue.

Extract from The Asian Age (August 2000):
"The Wakf Board has no records regarding the number of marriages. But brokers in the Old City areas here say that on an average, 20 such marriages are performed in the Old City every month... Police officials say that matters come to light only when the girl-victim comes forward to lodge a complaint. The Arabs arrive at Hyderabad on a short trip, drive straight to the homes of the brides pre-fixed by brokers, and are married soon after. The parents are paid amounts ranging between Rs 10,000 to 50,000. They take their brides to their hotel rooms and dump these hapless girls after a week or so, and then catch flight home."
Also note how low can khazis as well as our own people could go to make money, these vultures are feeding on the flesh of our young sisters. Instead of fighting against these, the All India Muslim Personal Board (AIMPLB from Andra Pradesh) has decided to file a petition against before the Supreme Court on extension of the Child Marriage Restraint Act to Muslims, saying that as per the Shariat, a girl could marry after reaching puberty (i.e., medically after the age of 10~14).

Ok, let us come to the core subject. What Islam says about such acts? I don’t want to explain now and hoping that you will find answer to the following questions in internet.
1. How many times the prophet married? What are the situations?
2. What was the age of Alisha when she got married and what age she had become mother?

The above is just a tip of ice berg. For Christian and Hindu also, I have so many questions. The meaning of various viratham (Karva Choath etc, Is there any viratham for longevity of wife performed by husband?), Why God created man first in his own form and female from man (first dependency) etc… so many.

After all, do you know what happened to Amena? She got married to very old man (more than twice her age) few years back. Why our feminists are not acted to save now? What was stopping them? Are these feminist really act for cause or trying to gain fame when the issues are hot?

If you find my postings are not part of healthy discussions, please inform me. I will stop posting further.

Well, r_kk, you have highlighted the atrocious incidents that are, as you say, are the tip of the iceberg. The practices in all the religions only expose the state of "civilisation" we have attained in reality, in spite of all the advances we have made in science & technology. Lifestyles have changed, amenities have multiplied, luxurious living is the blessing(!?) of today's world,it seems. Falsities, blind beliefs, abnoxious rites continue to thrive in the "religious" lives of people. There are activists groups doing their mite to alleviate the sufferings & to check the downtrend. As I had said in the beginning of the thread UN is also advocating the cause of eradicating violence against women. It needs the utmost cooperation of all the strata of society throughout the world to bring in a really decent habit of cohabiting of man & woman, a life of fruitful understanding, meaningful existence. Besides the outstanding outrageous incidents, even the general pattern of familial values are not fully conducive to enhance the dignity of womankind. How shall we change this scenario? How shall be better the mindsets of people to accept gender equality. Ideas towards this end are welcome!

Nice thread. But one of the reasons why women are exploited is due to women themselves. There are more girls these days interested in the glamour fields rather than science and research. This is surprising since for years, girls have always performed better than boys in all streams of education.
Women need to overcome the obstacles imposed by society to pursue their ambitions.

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NOTE:- don't expect indian men to behave like white men. You know what they expect(yeah they talk soft & nice) and after they Get(###) what they want they will run away.

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well Visu i dont know about your note...it kind of undermines what you said earlier...again some ppl have found true love with other races...and again there are quite alot of indian men who would run away too...and the same can be said of women as well...maybe white gurls more so...because for them it is in public but shamefully indian gurls do the same...there are many of us who do look at character before all else...yet there are many more who only look at education and wealth...and that is why other races are preferred at times...they seem to be more tolerant of differences in expectations...they are also more tolerant of separation as well..so in many cases will not go through the same hardships as of one's own race to stay together...but do keep in my mind this is my opinion from my narrow scope of life...i cannot speak for everyone hence yours and others insight is truly welcome :D

In Tamil literatures, from Sangam period to recent, you can find male superiority most of the time (excluding few countable writters). It is so blended with our culture; it is very difficult to make a equal world soon, as long as we falsely proud about our culture.
Read the following article regarding male superiority in Tamil literature.
http://www.languageinindia.com/sep20...erandlang.html

Even in spirituality, ladies were considered as inferior. Read the following article taken from "Farewell to God" by Charles Templeton, which may create a storm in mind.
http://www.submission.org/christians...on_women2.html

Please read thoroughly before making any comments.