S.Balaji ur post on Muthal mariyaathai was toooooooo gooooooooooood !!!! Thats my most fav BR movie as well as most fav Shivaji movie !!!!! 8-) :P 8-)
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S.Balaji ur post on Muthal mariyaathai was toooooooo gooooooooooood !!!! Thats my most fav BR movie as well as most fav Shivaji movie !!!!! 8-) :P 8-)
Hi,
Try these movies:
1. Andha naal
2. Thooku thooki
3. Uthama puthiran
4. Paar magale paar
5. Baagapirivinai
6. Padithal mattum podhumaa
7. Paalum pazhamum
8. Paava Manippu
9. Saraswathi sapadham
10. Andavan kattalai
11. Aalayamani
12. Bale pandiya
13. Pudhiya paravai
14. Raaja
15. Vasantha Maaligai
16. Thillana Mohanambal
17. Sorgam
18. Thangap pathakkam
19. Muthal Mariyadhai
20. Thevar Magan
.. many more
navarathiriQuote:
Originally Posted by tacinema
karnan
can someone list out all sivaji-banumathy tamil films? I know of the following: Ambikapathy and Arivali. Any other movies?
MakkaLaip petra maharaasi
RAngoon Raadha
RaaNi lalithaangi
KaLvanin kaathali (kalki's novel)
MaNamagaL thEvai
Manithanum mirugamum
Source database
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/indiancine...ection&start=G
* ambigaapathy -shivaji /bhanumathi
* aRivaaLi- Shivaji /Bhanumathi
When we analyse the artists of yesteryears, we get into a notion, rather conclusion that certain actors followed defined , mundane mannerisms and style.
This assessment is based on the fact that seldom the actors dared to experiment , playing totally a different role
Another reason could be that the audience view a hero on a glorified platform compared to a villain
Only few heros took up the challenge and tried villain roles
Nadigar Thilagam was an exception
In Andha naal, you will realize that way back he had played a semi villain character with aplomb. Even in Annayin Aanai, while the main objective was to seek revenge over his Father’s arch enemy S.V.Rangarao, it was another villain role only. However, he will successfully play a balancing act between Savithri ( SVR’s daughter and Shivaji’s lover ) and SVR ….
He was all grace and charm personified even while playing the role of a Villain in UTHAMA PUTHIRAN
Nadigar Thilagam’s landmark movie !.....
the youthful years of Shivaji …..
released in 1958
This movie redefined Tamil cinema’s horizon.
A dual role , the Villain was superb and more popular than the hero ! …….this role is being recognized for the STYLE AND DIFFERENT MANNERISM tried by Nadigar Thilagam….
The Villain guy Vikraman was diametrically opposite …....he displayed a plethora of emotions and also was the first of anti-hero roles ….it was well ahead of times and path breaking….
He had looks of a ROYAL, PRINCELY, ARROGANT and also NAIVE look with a naughty smile !
A happy go lucky type who enjoys life to the brink and flirts , often misguided by Nambiar and others …..he was like a puppet to Nambiar’s plans…..but never bothered about life…..
A song is needed to give proper definition to that character and its through YAARADEE NEE MOHINEE
The way he extends his hands while dancing and for the royal strides he makes during the song……it’s a treat to watch …..worth seeing again and again….
Its conclusive that Shivaji’s walk was like that of a lion …. A walk resembling an Emperor……..Even while the walk will be majestic and exceptional, his steps will be measured and precisely to the composition for this super hit song…..
The director probably wanted to show the big difference between the 2 characters through a song…..which could have made G.R. create a unique tune ….. CHARACTER BASED COMPOSITION !!
The great composer G.Ramanathan was equal to the task….G.R. showed his imaginative skills by giving A MIX OF WESTERN AND CONVENTIONAL rhythm which came out as a resounding success……..Its TMS-P.Leela combination created waves this time . This song is also well appreciated for the splendid use of tabla , drums and guitar chords …..
As the song moves to the final stage, there will be clapping from Shivaji and the other star ….a suddenly change in the rhythm !! Actually , the rhythm changes atleast 4 times….
•The first is when TMS starts with yaradee nee mohini….( a tabla support )
•The second….Unmayaana vendhanay ….its P.Leela ( tabla again )
•The third…..TMS….. Onnum onnum rendu…unmel aasai undu….briefly Jikki’s voice will come ( drums now )
•The fourth….Vaa vaa ….vaa vaa vaa….enanbay odivaa….. P.Leela ( drums )
Inch by inch, shot by shot, Shivaji will be awesome in his foot work and strides with a royal touch ! the editing will be crisp covering all the characters simultaneously …One can observe that for the above 4 rhythms, the dance movements and the steps of Shivaji will be different !
The hero character was gentle and majestic…… warm and matured look will be prevalent …..Vivacious and pleasant ParthibanFor the hero , MULLAI MALAR MELAY…MOIKUM VANDU POLAY .. a beauty …..a full fledged Kaanadaa raagam based composition….
A young Nadigar Thilagam, on a boating with a lovely looking Naatiya peroli Padmini ( in this movie and Vanji kotai vaaliban , Padmini will look like an angel ! ) its once again the great TMS-PS combination
One should also watch how Nadigar thilagam responds when TMS goes in high pitch for …Indha nilai marinadhalay endhan munaalay….anna nadai payila kanden aasayinaalay ….the song’s rhythm also will be in line with the movement of the boat ….
The creator was not finished yet with the villain character….. a climax is always needed to complete a movie…..and its UNNAZAGAI KANNIYARGAL SONNADHINAALAY !!!!!
Teaching on how to give a royal walk to Shivaji is like lending coal to New Castle
This song was needed for Padmini to seduce the villain shivaji to fall to a set trap and what a climax…..the tabla rhythm was a befitting response to Nadigar thilagam’s ROYAL WALK …The song gets into a high speed mode in the final stages …
It’s a big bonus for Nadigar thilagam fans as they got a double feast, a young and charming shivaji and also dual role which means variety…..
At the end , one will feel sad for the Villain character…as Nadigar Thilagam had made it a lovable one !
great post Balaji on Uththama puththiran
Balaji,
Your Post on Mudhal Mariyathai is really very good. As you mentioned before that movie some of the movies he did were quite avoidable which is nowhere near his standards.
Muthal Mariyathai. One of the natural work by nadigara thilagam.
Two scenes in muthal mariyathai which i recollect suddenly are
1. The rock lifting scene.
2. The Scene where radha eats fish and sivaji looks with eager to eat the same.
Extra ordinary.
Can we discuss about Sivaji's Deiva Magan and his mythological movies such as S.Sabadham, Tiruvilaiyadal and so on?
Mr. Joe,Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Thanks for the link. Senior(age) Hubbers pls keep this thread active.
Would love to hear more and more about him.
Request to the moderators, If permitted please mark this thread to sticky as a tribute to the legendary actor Chevaliar Sivaji Ganesan.
Thanks again. :clap: :clap:
I Like one Sivaji song very much..
Ponmagal Vanthaal...
Porulkodi Thatnthall...
Poomeni Vasam pokkum Theenaga..
after that dunno..
But very nice...
Bit Jazz, Bit Romance, Bit Folk..
Kalanthu seitha kalavai athu..
What movie?
The movie is 'Sorgam'Quote:
Originally Posted by NTR
Thanks..
its a great song..
the foll song.. one of his best performance.......
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un kannil neer vazhinthaal
en nenjil uthiram kottuthadi !!
en kannin pavai andro kannamma ......
en uyir ninnathandro...o...
aalam vizhuthugaL pol uravu
aayiram vanthum enna?
verena nee irunthaay..athil!!!
naan veezhthu vidaathirunthEEn.. (un kannil)
pechukku pillai undu
verum perukku sontham undu......
en thevaiyai yaar arivaar ????????
unnai pol deivam ondrE ariyum...mm.. (un kannil)
:sad:
Shivaji sir.. best performance... my fav movie & song
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Ullathil nalla ullam urangaathenbathu
vallavan vaguthathada
karna.. varuvathai ethirkollada
Thaaikku nee maganillai
thambikku annanillai
oor pazhi aetraayada
naanum un pazhi kondenada
naanum...un pazhi kondenada
Mannavar paniyerkum
kannanum pani seyya
unnadi panivaanada karna
mannithu arulvaayada
karna.. mannithu arulvaayada
Senchotru kadan theerkka
seraatha idam sernthu
vanjathil veezhnthaayada karna
vanjagan kannanada
karna.. vanjagan kannanada
:cry: :cry:
nice song
SP nice song ...put it in the lyrics section also
mookkaiyan: panjaaththula enakku kedachchA varavERpa nee paaththirukkanum appadiyE poorichu pOyiruppa
appaththA: appadiyA?! naan varaama pOyittEnE :(
mookkaiyan: naan vanthirukkEnE uyirOda! :(
-to be contd!:)
That is a great song(ullathil). Who was the lyric writer?
Ullathil nalla ullam was written by Kavignar kannadasan
Stranger
Enna solla vareenga !
Yen sitrarivukku puriyavillai please
One nice song from Shivaji movie i like is..
'Unnai Ondru kaetpaen' from puthiya paravai.
Shivaji is so stylish in that song. Also Saroja Devi..
For the line 'ennai paada sonnaal enna paada thoandrum'. The different expression and body language she shows whenever the line comes is really enjoyable.
The chemistry between them in the movie was really very good.
STranger vanthaar
nindraar
(etho post) senjaar
poitaar
enna ragasiyam???????
Avar Stranger illayaa. athaan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
:rotfl:
Stranger eppa varuvaar, eppadi varuvar, ethukaaga varuvaarnu yaarukkum theriyaadhu.
Aaanaa vara koodaatha naerathula kandippaaa varuvar..
:lol:
:notworthy: :rotfl:
Okay, it seems nobody gets it. I need to give little more details! :)
Movie: pattikkAdA pattaNamA
Actors: Nadigar thilagam and "his grandma" (w/o late, sOlavanthaan Sundaramahalinga thEvar)
Scene: Mookayan's wife KalpanA is no longer living with him as they are separated :( But Mookkayan goes to a panjaayaththu and trying to insist the defendant to live with his wife. But it gets back fired badly. He got insulted in the panjaayaththu. he comes back home with the biggest disappointment in life. His grandma was curious to know how the panjaayathu went on.
stage; mookkaiyan and his grandma (*appaththA* is the term which is used for grandma in that community called kaLLar in the Madurai suburb neighborhood)
mookkaiyan: "solavanthaan sundara mhaalinga thEvar pEran!'
panjaaththula enakku kedachchA varavERpa nee paaththirukkanum appadiyE poorichu pOyiruppa" (he is sarcastic here)
His grandma (appaththA): Proudly, appadiyA?! naan varaama pOyittEnE :D
mookkaiyan: naan vanthirukkEnE uyirOda! :(
grandma: mookkaiyA! ennaiyyA solRa? :?
mookkaiyan: kEttAnE oru kELvi! ithunaaL varaikkum evanumE kEtkaadha kELvi!
grandma: naakkumEla pallu pOttu evanyA unnai kELvikEtka mudiyum? :evil:
mookkaiyan: kEttAn appaththaa, "peNdaattiyOda vaazha vakkillaatha neeyellAm enakku panjayaaththu paNRathunu" kEttAn :(
grandmA: mookkaiyA! ippa enna nadanthu pOyiruchchunu kavalai paduRa. nee aambaLai, ithO irukkiRaa raakkammA kiLi maathiri ponnu! avaLai kalyaaNam paNNikkoNdu santhOshamaa irukka vEdiyathu thAnE? :cool:
PP has one of the best claimaxes in Tamil Cinema. Madhavan has done an excellent job clearly picturing the "lifestyle and culture" of this particular community living in Madurai area!
Well, where is Saradha_Sn?????
She will appreciate this more than I am :)
I just copied and pasted TAcinema's post from "the MGR thread" !
I think it is worth having this post here!
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tacinema wrote!
The problem with you is that your argument is purely one-sided. You listed your favourite actors for the last 50 years, and I imagine you are a very neutral person. What you need to do is think quitely and logically and come to a conclusion that MGR is no match for Sivaji in any cinema department, EXCEPT action movies. BTW, as Joe pointed out, Sivaji too did some action movies, such as Raja and Engal Thanga Raja. Both were commercially super hits. But MGR films such as Kannan Yen Kathalan, Paasam, Nallavan Vallvan, Kalangarai Vilakkam and Ther Thiruvila, which are somewhat "different", failed miserably. Personally, I think Kannan Yen Kathalan and Kalangarai Vilakkam are good movies and they have great songs. Somewhere, you spoke about versatility and saying Kamal was more versatile.. let me give you your own poison and show you how versatile Sivaji was:
1. Parasakthi - run away hit, unbelievable dialogue delivery. Mind it, this is his first movie. His success was unparalleled, not a single tamil actor succeded in first movie itself in such a magnitude. With his powerful action, experienced actor such as SSR were totally sidelined in the movie
2. Andha Naal (acting) - It must be Sivaji's 5th or 6th movie. No songs in the movie, excellent and stylish acting as a spy. Can you imagine any MGR movie without songs... it would be a disaster
3. Thooku Thooki (comedy) - an awesome acting as also a comedian. Legend TMS first sang for Sivaji.
4. Sabash Meena (comedy) - with Chandrababu. Go and watch his timing in comedy. Less say about MGR's comedy sense, the better. Kamal is good in comedy, but I think he cannot match Sivaji's timing.
5. Veera Pandiya Kattabomman (history) - An epic. No words to describe his acting, he just goes deep into skin of the character. Even reruns, this movie made awesome collection, in Madurai (my hometown), it ran over 50 days in 80s.
6. Vasantha Maligai (love/romance) - Another milestone movie. I strongly believe no other movie matched this in love story. This remake is better than Telugu original
7. Deiva Magan (acting) - Excellent action. He made his face looks ugly for one of the characters. Kamal extended that in AS
8. Navarathri - Appearance of 9 different characters. You can distinguish one Sivaji from another easily
9. Thiruvilaiyadal (mythological) - List does not end, all AP Nagarajan movies. Literally he thought puranas to many.
10. Raja (action) - Excellent movie. His stylish dialogue delivery comes in very handy when act as bond-style
11. Paasamalar - Include all "pa" series movies
12. Gauravam (lawyer) - another mile stone movie. This movie is a bench mark movie for any one who acts as a lawyer.
13. Thangapathakkam (police) - another great movie. Movie for a honest police officer
14. Pattakada Pattanama (village) - another blockbuster. Incidentally, the highest collection movie in black and white category (including MGR b/w movies)
15. Sorgam - a dream character, I just love this movie.
16. M.Mariyadhai - An aged thespian showed you that he is worth of every penny, if used properly.
Last but not least - Uththama Puthiran: what a movie. go and watch Sivaji's villain character..........you will be amazed!
MANY MORE..................
Take this versatility and compare with Kamal or any other actor. You will fall flat on the ground. Mind it, Sivaji is second indian (after Nehu) in Independence India who was awarded one day mayor in Columbus city, Ohio, USA. This is the honour that every Tamilian should feel proud of.
I like Kamal, I like MGR too. I just think Sivaji is genius in his own way. Do not compare Kamal's Salangai Oli with any Sivaji movie. Kamal is a learnt and experienced Bharat Natyam dancer. So doing a movie on BNatyam should be a cake walk for him. If Sivaji had known BNatyam, I am sure he would have beaten any actor. But doing a movie like Thillana Mohanambal (without knowing Nadaswaram) is simply uncomparable. If anyone makes an yard stick for comparison, it is mostly sivaji movies. For example, if someone talks about brother-sister love, then Paasamalar immediatly comes to their mind. That is the impression. I agree post-Thirisoolam, Sivaji did bad movies; but don't bash sivaji, just for the argument sake.
You said you can talk about politics enlessely, but I am not sure that this is the correct forum for that. Here, to brief you, I would like to compare MGR as a politican with another politician Kamaraj, not again with Sivaji.
I have to go now and have a good time in arguing.....
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Amazing write up!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
what a big post :shock: :shock: :shock:
Super Star Rajini said "People call me as style king..If I am style king ,Nadigar Thilagam is Style Chakaravarthi"
tacinema has given 16 charecters and said shivaji is versatile than kamal!
is it difficult to give a completely different 16 charecters for kamal too! :huh:
:evil:
Shivaji's ERA WAS different.
TECHNICAL improvement during those eras WERE NIL.
Shivaji's scope and chances offered were MUCH LESS in those days.
Considering those, definitely HE HAS RISEN MUCH ABOVE THAN ANY POSSIBLE INDIAN ACTOR :evil:
u must not forget that kamal used the technical or any development in cinema using his pocket money in most of his movies!
kamal has taken his step for technical development........by using his money..which shivaji dint!
U must not forget, THE ERA HE LIVED and audience which he catered to were different.
They would NOT HAVE relished it.
also, KAMAL IS MORE EDUCATED than SHIVAJI.
note: More Educated does not mean more talented.
KAMAL IS MORE EDUCATED THAN SHIVAJI
:lol: :lol:
Kamal havent even finished tenth standard! :lol:
i think he is second standard drop out :lol:
do u think people relish it now
even after hey raam flops kamal comes up with anbe sivam!
even after kuridhipunal he came up with hey raam!
Naan sonnathu nadanthudichu
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I know.. kamal is a school drop out. I understand shivaji is even less educated.
GOD what all we argue over!!!!!!!! How LESS QUALIFIED A PERSON ISSSS !!! :lol: :rotfl:
thirumaran,
enna sonnenga? enna nadanthathu?