ASAL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGv__TUCaj8
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Originally Posted by music man
Actually Steven Devassy used to be the pianist for Vidya Saagar..I read somewhere that Vidya Saagar and Stephen Devassy had mutually agreed and had redone the same piece in that song...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Maybe this was already mentioned.
Starting bit seems to be the same. (same raga?)
Oru kal oru kannadi (Siva Manasula Sakthi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WOTH6ZdGwQ
So gaya ye jehaan (Tezaab)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uXjLohRTDs
so gaya yeh jahan by itself looks like a copy of keladi kanmani paadagan sangadhi..
u r saying ulta - Tezaab came a year before pudhu pudhu arthangalQuote:
Originally Posted by vel
'kELadi kaNmaNi' is one of the few copies of IR ('sO gayA' is the original from tEzAb; or it may have an older Hindi original as IR has been inspired from some, the well-known one being 'kanavu kANum vAzhkkai yAvum' of neengaL kEttavai).
LP and IR had an understanding and IR bought the rights for So gaya so the whole family can copy. :)
Then IR, Now Yuva, future Yatheesh.
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Originally Posted by Vysar
Guess, if one is 'clever' in masking the 'original' then he is a successful MD. However, I think YSR still has talent, this is just an aberration.
app_eng,
The first line in the two song, keladi' and 'so gaya' are where the similarity ends. 'keladi' then takes a totally different route. The charanams are totally different. The whole feel of both the songs is quite different. The charanams of the Hindi song are quite pedestrian IMHO.
Honestly I cannot see the link between 'oru kal' and 'so gaya'. Maybe both are based on the same scale.
You are right about 'kanavu kaanum' song though. It is a direct copy of 'kasme vaade pyar wafa sub' from a Manoj Kumar movie. Original sung by Manna Dey. The other song which is a direct lift against Raja's name is 'O rabba vesu kunna killi' which is a copy of 'kaike paan banaras wala' from Don in the Telugu film 'Yugandhar'. Incidentally both the Hindi songs had music by Kalyanji Anandji.
While I can understand the Don song copy, the Hindi version being hugely popular and NTR wanting it in his film. (Those were the days when songs were regularly copied from Hindi. Raja was just getting is foothold in the industry and NTR was a big man.) What I still cannot fathom is the 'kasme vade pyar' song coming to Tamil. First, it is a fairly mediocre song. Not like some beauty of Madanmohan or Roshan. Second, it was in Balu Mahendra's film, who is very close to Raja. Third, there was no one involved like NTR or such and Raja was not the beginner as he was during the 'Yugandhar' days. So is it that Raja liked the song so much or Balu Mahendra liked the song so much that they decided to transpose it to Tamil? I am curious because Raja has probably a huge number of songs for such situations and many of them being lot more better than this song. So why copy?
Maybe the mystery will clear some day!!
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
I happened to watch Kamal's video where Kamal saying that IR could modify the tune and come up with different output (Deva never does that). Example he gave was Inji Idupazhga. Gangai Amaran also expressed notion in an interview where he noted IR took that route in most cases. Inspiration kept IR going in 80s and 90s.
I believe Keladi Kanmani is not either Inspiration or Copy. It must be Coincidence (though 'so gaya' came before) or like 'Inji Idupazhagi').
But for 'Chittu Kuruvi' song it was in 'inspiration' category
This 'Kasmee vaade' - 'Neengal Kaettavai' song link has been discussed down to death already. BM wanted it, IR accepted (with hesitation). Period. Let's not reinvent the wheel. :-)
Thanks King for info reg 'Neengal Kaettavai' song. Didn't know about the earlier discussion. I also thought it would have been something that BM wanted. Nice to have that validated.
romba surukkama solliteengha... Kamal saying about IR thats perversely the other way around!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vysar
HJ :banghead:
Can't he be original for once? :sigh2:
Just today I heard the song Vaarayo Vaarayo - Aadhavan fully. Very shortly at a shop I hear an English song playing with the same tune with electric guitars.
This is not about copying rather a tribute to MSV. His song "Raajavin Paarvai" is used in the French comedy "I always wanted to be a gangster (2007)" and rightly credited to MSV and Anbe Vaa. Goosebumps! It was used twice in the film the prelude of chariot sound and the female humming.
The track is not listed in imdb but this link have it.
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Originally Posted by Scale
Amazing, french really do watch alot of tamil films dunt they :clap: :notworthy:
True,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkster
I saw a french film u tube clip with muthu songs in the banckground (on TV)
Do they sound similar?Are my ears deceiving me?
paa trailer;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrv0VHm2Pw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrv0VHm2Pw
pachelbel's canon (listen from 1.30 min onwards)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Af37...eature=related
Nope they dunt and except that they use the same violins i dunt find any other similarity. :huh:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Tm98N0Cpc
Any guess? :P
Mere coincidence or inspired?
Is that Varayo varayo monalisa?Quote:
Originally Posted by viraajan
absaleetly!Quote:
Originally Posted by satissh_r
Cant be coincidence given HJ's history :wink:
any guesses? I think it's kinda obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by jaaze
That trance kinda start is like Vaaji Vaaji... Is that the one Jaaze?
I was referring to Night Is Still Young - Muthirai
The same rhythm and beat is used in that song
Oh ok... Haven't listened to the song more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaaze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK97t...om=PL&index=19
this song was quite famous during my school days......i was shocked when this same tune and orchestration - note by note- was repeated in vijay movie badri - ennoda laila song......wonder if the composer is same for both the versions.....
nevertheless a beautiful reggae style composition :D
This song is nicer than the Badri song. I remember Badri's MD was Ramana gokul (some telugu MD I think)... Which album is this song from?Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
i think there were 2 guys in this song's video - one of them must have been ramana gokul........no idea abt album name - i found this from youtube comments:Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Lava
You can download the entire album audio mp3s at a site called ezeemp3(dot)com and search for "Aye Laila".
Yeah. Googled it. Composer is the same for both!
Idhukku per copy illaiya Surangani God knows how many of them copied/used this song? See, how time have changed now If someone have done in this era he would have been straightaway ripped apart.
What Vijay Antony done is really smart and venial to the tail (atleast in this case) he credited the original singer Dinesh and retained the composing credit. There might be a undertable settlement and if Dinesh, the original composer doesnt have problem who are we to accuse.
Scale: Check no. 57 here - http://www.itwofs.com/tamil-others.html - some extra info on Aathichudi.
VA is getting inspiration from yuvan also. Even his latest vettaikkaran's "naan adicha thangamatta" somehow reminds me Chennai 28's "Saroja Saman nikalo" song.Quote:
Originally Posted by inetk
Another revealed example is "Sexy lady" from "Jiguru thanda"
This is very much similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi