michcha sports-ai ellAm oru poruttA madhichchu naan karuththu solluvEn-nu enna oru edhirpArppu :lol2:
Cricket-ku oru paarambariyam irukku, rugby paththi theriyAdhu. And yes, England is different from other countries.
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michcha sports-ai ellAm oru poruttA madhichchu naan karuththu solluvEn-nu enna oru edhirpArppu :lol2:
Cricket-ku oru paarambariyam irukku, rugby paththi theriyAdhu. And yes, England is different from other countries.
enna naakka pudingkkiRa maadhiri?
If Eng can do this why not India too - type same kostin dhaan kEttirppeenga.
Goose-Gander lEdhu, ithi gaanamayil-vaankOzhi. nallA purinjikkung..
PS, adhu Henry Blofeld
ok :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wizzy
Vazhga jananayagam..Valarga mannar aatchi ;-)
http://www.espncricinfo.com/west-ind...ry/563544.html
P-r's muyal has muppadhu kaalgaL.ulaguthula vERa edhukkumE porundhAdha, vEra edhulayum illaadha behaviour naturalAm. Idhu logiccAm. MakkaLE, naan onnum sollalai. Ungalukellaam sindhanai thiRan irukku - indha cold amoral illogic-ai pArththu sirichuttu pOnga.
Idhellaam vetti discussion. Somone find N Seenu's mail-id. It is high time I got introduced to him. BCCI-la pugundhu indha veLLaikAra dash-hgaLai Oda Oda viratta vEndiya kaalam vandhAchu. Wizzy, kamaanyA find seenu maama's mail-id. Enakku sila ideas irukku.... Ovvoru moveum prabhu ramarukku peedhiya keLappaNum. Test cricket uru theriyAma adikkaNum. VERa nAdhi illAma oNNu ivaru putbol pAkka ArambikkaNum illaina kannaalam kattikittu kozhandhai kuttinu settle AvaNum. :aagattumpaarkkalaamaattathinmudivile:
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Originally Posted by wizzy
idhai England edhirththu hegemonize paNNa ninaichchA - kaNdanam theRivippEn
idhai follow paNNi India hire paNNA - neththiyila adichukittu sirippEn.
^the day is not far off when a Eng player drifts to OZ and helps them to reclaim the urn :mrgreen: think BCCI has greater talent pool/pride to pull off something like this..may be if and when IPL helps to transcend the borders and we get some export quality padosi phast bowlers.
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Originally Posted by P_R
ulaguthula unga sport mattum dhAn sportA? ugnaLukkumattum dhAn traditionA? unga sportla mattum nadakkaRadhu dhAn naturalA? adhuvum ungALunga paNdradhu mattum traiditional/natural? ivanunga dhAn poRandhAnungaLA? Parading your idiocy as logic - thangaLukkE vEdikkayAa illai? 36 vayasu thAndavE mAttIngaLAdA?
I don't know about other traditions in other sports.
That others possibly don't care about theirs is no argument.
vekkaththulErndhu vEdikkaikku vandhirukkeenga. Good.
enna idiocy idhu? Why do you obfuscate? The point we are making is about your claim that it is natural(combined with the corollary that india doing it will not be natural). if something that happens in your sport alone is natural for you, why not a new paradigm in India converting aussie bowlers not natural?
ulaguthulEyE ninga mattum paNdradhu naturalngarInga? (And what your sport does is not consistent with what happens in other sports - so every reason to call your behaviour unnatural). adhu dhAn epdingaREn? Only fossible with a delusionary mindset which you are probably embracing just for this purpose.
kELviyilEyE badhil irukkiRadhEQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Dunno about other sports-nu sonnEn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
For eg, if football says someone born in Aus can never play in England - then it is 'unnatural' because it refuses to engage with how porous things have always been.
btw Shakib Al Hasan's cousin, Ajmal's siththappAru magan all playing for India is not odd.
indha point-ai kaNdukkavE mAttEndreengaLE
To clarify, T20 is only one the problems. Even if IPL became a ODI tournament, I can't watch, because CSK != TN. Bollinger,Raina playing under Dhoni for 'Chennai' will always feel like a circus to me. Involve ellAm aaga mudiyAdhu.
P_R colour variya pirikarutha avalavu nalla ellai..muzhukka nannaiyanum..if a Brendon Nash can play for Windies/Devon Malcolm for Eng..subcontinental sides-ku mattum enn entha paarabatchum :neutral:
Nothing to feel uncomfy about.
Tony Cozier maadhiri WIndians are there no? Brendon Nash appAru JamaicavO, TrindadO.
If IPL goes on to mint money for players it might propel a cricket immigration so a Jamaican/Trinidadian could go on to play for India in the near future..athukaga thaen entha conditioning ellam :-)
appo dhaaraaLamA paNNikkunga. kuththam solla mAttEn.
mudhallErndhE idhai thaanEyyA sollittu varEn :huh:
let me get this right for a white/black to play for India you ask for a IPL based natural immigration whilst it is perfectly normal to signup/steal Ajmal's bro even if he had played first class cricket for pakistan :huh:
Yes. Exactly.
There are many Pak, Bang folks working in India. So make someone Indian citizens and they are good to go.
Not enough phoreners. It'll take a while. If and when that happens, then that'd be good to go too.
whatay..apppo Warner/Pattinson were picked/identified by their respective IPL franchises even before they made their first class debut so effectively ethvum IPL based natural immigration thane?
Indiavula niRaiya veLLaikkAranga vElai seyyura varaikkin, India team-ku avinga viLayAda koodAdhu. That's all.
The clients in this meeting who think I am taking notes are Irish, Swedish, Italian, Pakistani working in Canada. All of them can play for the Canadian team. It won't be odd.
Just imagine such a mix for India :lol:
enna kodumai edhu Warner/Pattison ought to wait till the vellaikaraa population reaches a threshold eventhough they fall into category of IPL based natural immigration and they have the right to choose which country they play for(ICC rules)..engayo edikuthu
Allowed according to the rules. dhArALamA seyyalaam.
seyyunga. sandhOsamA irunga.
All of you are totally sold on the 'new paradigm'. I am going into the future sulking and kicking and screaming.
Danks </discussion> from my side..nallaikku Plum rally start pannuvar :lol2:
I think we all understand each other but disagree. That's all.
To quote something I said a few posts back
Plum/wizzy--> Eng:Ind::goose::gander sama urimai engaL moochchu. pazhayana kazhidhal vENdum
I yam---------> Eng: Ind:: gaanamayil:vaankOzhi
annaiyum pidhAvum munneri dheivam
P_R If I extend your logic it will lead to much maligned Proteas selection policy(on affirmative action) w.r.t national team being representative of the society :-) We want selection done purely on merit :mrgreen:
I anticipated this and answered several days ago.
No team needs to be proportionally representative but it should atleast remotely be. Thassal.
btw malign ellAm, the likes of KP paNRadhu. Not me. A peer white African team is the kind of tradition that should be taken down, the way it is being done now.
If this were I899: In india the tradition is for dalits to kooni kuRugi odhungufy when DINgs are around. Adhu dhaane kaalam kaalamaa nadakkudhu. Adhai ozhikkaRadhu thappu kEttELA? Munaf (and possibly even harbhajan) should remove their shirt and thundai iduppula kattikkaNum in the presence of SRT. Tradition, you see. Feeyar threshold pArththu solRachE dhaan idhu mARaNum. Avaru social study ellaam panni time solluvaar. Adhu varaikkin ipdiyE maindain paNNunga. Most kammannaattithanams in history have been made in the name of "tradition", "ulaga vazhakkam dhaanungaLE". England are experts in this. No wonder their representative in India is resorting to such communitythanam arguments....
Aamaam-la, repressive inhuman treatment = people flitting across borders for generations
Plum, it takes great talent to read around this
and immediately below that post what you posted :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
summA, eppadi solli oru manusanai malign paNNalaamnu pArkka vENdiyadhu. avan solRa uyariya karuththukaLai kaadhu kuduththu kEppOm, aazhndha sindhanaigaLai uLvaangikkuvOm, namma vERuppu saarndha kurugiya nOkkai virivipaduththikkuvOm...appadingra eNNamE kidaiyAdhu.
P_R no one can stop a talent to find its way through...affirmative action based selection should be done at the juniors to propagate the game across various levels of the society..the intent should be to offer a level playing field at juniors..with the current SA policy Alviro Petersen/Ashwell Prince are confirmed of a place in the national side however crap they might be whilst the likes of KP/Trott should trot around for opportunities..this selection also brackets the likes of Amla/Philander who got in purely on the weight of domestic performance to quota selection.. how fair is that..national team enna parliament'a quota vechi players-a recruit panna.. ethulla enga proportionally representative vanthathu...if in a year coloured SA players weren't good enough to represent SA int. side then hard luck but how does it make that side less representative of the society..the likes of Kallis/Abdv ellam mannin maindhargal thane//
P.S Nalaikke if Mulayam Singh/Digvijay Singh demand that that Indian cricket team should always include 2 peeps from minority community as means to reflect/represent the society we live in..unga analogy padi edhu accepted-a :huh:
oru expediting dhaan.
idhellAm avinga argue paNNikkattum. Divert paNNaadhEl.
ennaiyai oru veLLaiya/aangila adivarudi 'nRa maadhiri inga oruththar pEsittu irukkAr. Subtleties purinjum puriyAdha mAdhiriyE maindain paNNittu irukkaar.
avarukku sonnEn. I am saying these kind of departures from tradition are understandable. The merits of the mechanics can be debated. But tradition should not be the reason to say, we have never had reservation, so we should never have.
prachanainu vandhutta :-)Quote:
idhellAm avinga argue paNNikkattum. Divert paNNaadhEl.
naane sollalam eruthaen :ashamed:Quote:
ennaiyai oru veLLaiya/aangila adivarudi 'nRa maadhiri inga oruththar pEsittu irukkAr.
seri eppo point blank-a sollunga..its been a while since a black Englishmen played/represented ECB..edhukku oru reservation kondu varlamay and extending it to browns later.. evangla mattum enn choice-la udringae..all part of the same plural society :huh:Quote:
But tradition should not be the reason to say, we have never had reservation, so we should never have.
Chris Lewis, Alex Tudor, Dean Headley
Case closed on the basis of 'need'.
But koNdu varaNumnA ninaichAngannA dhArALamA paNNikkattum. uLLoor maNNin maindhargaL prachanai, namakku enna vandhuchchu.
argh..adhu oru token representation..eppo their numbers would have surely increased and reached your threshold :-)..yam trying to pin-down that national side can never be representative of the society..blasphemous to expect it to be..kavala padathinga ECB isn't dumb enough to hatch a scheme that would deter them from competing.