The Golden Era of Dr.IR and Dr.SPB

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பூந்தோட்டக் காவல்காரன்

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mmm...

நீங்களும் ஹல்வா visual treat கொடுத்து இருக்கீங்களா along with ஸ்வீட் சித்ரா's composition .:musicsmile:

நான் நேத்திக்கு அசோகா ஹல்வா prepare செய்தேன் for my family for snack .

At my grand town of Tanjore, we prepare some native dishes that are delicious.
தஞ்சாவூர் அசோகா, சுருள் போளி, தஞ்சாவூர் அப்பம் , இட்லி's side dishes கடப்பா, கொத்சு, breakfast தவள அடை etc...are popular.
தஞ்சாவூர் அசோகா ஸ்வீட் கல்யாணங்களில் போடுவாங்க.

red colour ley warm and beautiful sweet.:slurp: we relish it.

anyway....

I think bgm chorus humming/flute/violin of the lilting, jumpy tune - Mano-Chithra duet PAARAAMAL PAARTHTHA NENJAM.......,
hubby pampering pregnant wife SINDHIYA VENMANI.... stole my attention.

Raja surprised us by giving a kuththu pattu to Shri.Yesudas.

With this album, Mano and Yesudas stole the spotlight from SPB.

Vinatha.

App,
Very nice and soothing song, paadaatha themmaangu, with your interesting bachelor party and a malayalam punch line. :smile:

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Originally Posted by app_engine

BTW, 'nAththu' is kochchaiththamizh...written word is 'nARRu' (நாற்று) :-)

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Many thanks for the detailed explanation :)

nanRi baroque & V_Sji!

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Originally Posted by V_S

with your interesting bachelor party

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Interestingly, his would-be was from my birthplace & so the marriage was there :-)

Another reason for an interesting bus-journey filled with songs and visit to the chithi's home & in turn some chithappA's recording center indulgences :-)

Life's eththanai eththanai kochu kochu santhOshangaL!

#276 கண்டு புடிச்சேன் கண்டு புடிச்சேன்
(குரு சிஷ்யன், 1988 )

kaNdupudichchEn kaNdupudichchEn of Guru Shishyan.

Song tailor-made for SPB's kuRumboos & kuzhaivoos and he simply excels with his modulations! rAsA too in jolly mood with his concoction of shenoy / guitar / flute / tabla to create the total fun mood. Lyricist didn't have much work to do but fill-in with mAnE thEnE words and it was cake-walk for the jAmbavAns Rajinikanth & Prabhu to enjoy on the screen to thrill the audience. Full of kuRumbu / ELanam and what not! I remember thoroughly enjoying this song in the useless New (Devidurga) theater in Palakkad when the movie arrived. Not a great film but provided enough fun, some laughter and light-hearted moments. Only worthy song, IMHO...though there were a few other songs that became very popular as well, because of the Rajini factor.

Was the first movie for Gautami, who happened to be a collegemate of one of my former teammates (who unfortunately died recently and was my facebook contact, because of him Gautami's facebook name used to pop up every now and then, telling, "one common friend"). I don't think she finished her engg, possibly discontinued due to the movie chance to act with Rajinikanth. Unquestionably beautiful and talented actress! (Supposedly brainy as well, to the extent of giving intellectual companionship to Kamal!)

Well, this song is about friends / friendship and I'm talking about girlie...let me switch to the friends topic :-) With that, let me also give some "historical background" about the travails of TN-youngsters in late-80's, with respect to owning / riding a motorcycle!

It's pretty plain from my posts in this thread that an engineer with middle-class background from TN (me the average sample) had to go to work in "bus" (often footboard) and not have a 2 or 4 wheeler during 80's! This may be shocking (for some youngsters) to read! However, that had to be understood in the context.

Until the arrival of "Ind-Suzuki 100cc" bikes in 1984-85, the auto scene in India was dismal. All unreliable bullet / jAwA / rAjdhoothan bikes that were too-heavy, problem filled, gas-drunkards and few produced in numbers...Or scooters that were fit only to carry milk-cans (Lambretta). bajaj had scooters too but they looked like the "3idiots chairs" (and run worse than idiots) but sold at a premium and had to be booked, wait for years or buy with US$ :shock:

Well, it was great when Hero Honda 4 stroke bikes arrived around the time I started my first job ("Fill it - shut it - forget it", claiming > 70 kmpl) and there was years of waiting after booking one. On top of such limited availability, the agencies were only in big-cities (Palakkad was not one). So, among the 100 or so of engineers in my workplace, only 10 or so had motorcycles until 1988 (there was not even a parking lot, these stood on the panchayat road in sun and rain). Since the personnel department (see, it was not "HR" then) disallowed officEzhs coming in ordinary cycles, we had to either walk or bus.

I didn't want to ride a 50cc moped like my dad so decided to wait until I get a 100cc. Then there was this "financing" problem. First two years we were "trainee engineers" with stipend and not salary so no one would give us that Rs 17000 loan :-( So, I had been bussing for 3.5 years. Now, where do "friends" come in this story?

Well, bussing doesn't mean not learning to ride a 100cc :-) One of my buddies had a Hero Honda and was a nice guy to let others try it and most engineers in that workplace learnt to ride a bike using his! I still remember him with gratitude as it was unusual for people who had that prized possession to let others ride (my mostly-travelling-room-mate an ejjAmple, he'll leave his Hero Honda locked in another friend's home when away, never let me or others try it, though we went to the same workplace)!

Well, that nice friend set such a good example that when I eventually had mine (not HH - couldn't wait - but KB 100 in 1989), that became another 'trainer vaNdi' :-)

Friend should be one when in need!

Nice write up app anna :)

I guess the next song would be intoxicatingly romantic "vaa vaa vanchi ila maanE" SPB excells in high octaves in this song, but some how IMHO I felt KSC went a bit squeeky here :oops: just like in the song "Anjali Anjali Pushpanjali" :oops:

App - you have a great sense of humor. The way you described the Two-wheeler market in India during the 80s made me :lol:

App,
Very nice reminiscence of two-wheeler stories. :smile: In fact, I drove two wheeler (yamaha rx100) only to get license, never owned one nor drove one on road much.:smile: Always bus, train or my lovable bicycle, my best friend during my bachelor days.
Guru Sishyan had another beautiful song, Maane Vanji ILa Maane right? I love that song.

nostalgic two wheeler kahani, app_eng!
:-D

I am one of those million Indian ladies enjoyed
Kinetic Honda premium scooters.

Riding in my scooter when we lived at B'lore- malleswaram
and
Chennai , Wow! Nungambakkam high road or kasturi rangan salai or trips to shopping, veg buying, pandi bazar or beaches trips ..AWESOME!:bluejump: Freedom, நம்ப காரியங்களை நம்ப பாக்கலாம்...no need to depend on others!

Very recently my family sold my scooter.

even recently insisted my father to buy & keep a scooter, useful when we visit Madras or B'lore,

though we don't want our elderly 75 yr old uncles or parents to drive them.
வீட்டுலே இருந்தா ஆட்டோ பிடிக்க மாட்டங்க or டிரைவர் call பண்ண மாட்டங்க .. அதான் பயம்!:(

I love my Kinetic Honda! :-D

vinatha.

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Originally Posted by baroque

I love my Kinetic Honda! :-D

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They are the best Bike and to some extent car manufacturers in the world :), You just cant beat a Honda! I am thinking of getting a Honda Fireblade see below :)Attachment 1052

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Wasn't Dharmathin thalaivan , Dharmadurai released on the same year as guru shisyan? :roll:
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nanRi Param, rajkumarc, V_Sji and baroque!

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Wasn't Dharmathin thalaivan , Dharmadurai released on the same year as guru shisyan? :roll:
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Remember we've discussed 'then madhurai vaigai nadhi' as the starting song of the year 1988? (From dharmaththin thalaivan).

Dharmadurai wasn't a 1988-er, it's probably a 1991 movie...

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Originally Posted by app_engine

Well, when the drinking Rajini appeared on screen, there was such a roaring response from front benchers - throwing coins and what not! I haven't seen such a scene in theater even for MGR movies in TN and was surprised / shocked!

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Ellam antha Ishtyle ku :smokesmile: :smokesmile: :smokesmile:

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Dharmadurai wasn't a 1988-er, it's probably a 1991 movie...

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Oh 1991 :shock: It came after thalapathy, for some reason it looked older than Thalapathy :oops:

that's cool, Param!

during 90s, when I was riding my Kinetic Honda scooter, some of my cousins
drove Yamaha. When we go out like trips to beaches etc...

கிண்டல் பண்ணுவானுங்க...
தத்தி தத்தி வராதாடி... அப்படின்னு! என்னோட குட்டி பையனை வேற, மாமாவோட வாடான்னு!
போடா டேய்!
my girl with a push button , start ! ready to carry me places classes, hospitals, to run my errands... smooth & fun!

Mahindra stopped it now.:(

cool girl , third aa vara paarunga namba Kinetic Honda! You are rocking, girl!

first TVS-50.

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Vinatha

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Originally Posted by baroque

கிண்டல் பண்ணுவானுங்க...
தத்தி தத்தி வராதாடி... அப்படின்னு! என்னோட குட்டி பையனை வேற, மாமாவோட வாடான்னு!
போடா டேய்!

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Oh First Time, I saw this Honda Kinetic on google Images, I have never seen this over here, perhaps they never sold this model over here. You one was a scooter rather than bike :) that is why it may have been slow :)

Ithu ennoda Honda Attachment 1053

cool!

என்னோட cousins , அவனுங்க சும்மா! பொழுது போகாம என்ன கிண்டல் பண்ணுவானுங்க!

நானு, என்னோட குட்டிப் பையன், my வாகனம்-scooter, one bunch of attractive குரூப் on the road !:-D

என்னோட girl is cool ! she flied high !:) City drive is awesome!

vinatha

:-D @ vinatha akka

#277 வா வா வஞ்சி இளமானே
(குரு சிஷ்யன், 1988 , சித்ராவுடன்)

vA vA vanji iLamAnE from Guru shishyan

A number of websites list this song as a Mano song. Is there a Mano version on the cassette or something like that (some "track" versions used to make it to the cassette those days)? In any case, this was the time period Mano was trying to sing exactly like SPB and thus there was some confusion among listeners. Especially songs that are not sung in the "regular / normal" voice. (e.g. adichchidu kottam of Indiran Chandiran). It is also possible that the netizens automatically assume a Prabhu song in a Rajini film cannot be in SPB's voice but had to be with a another singer :roll: Interestingly, Mano sang for Rajini in the 'jingadi-jingadi-enakku' in this movie, SPB sang for Rajini in 'kaNdu pudichchEn' and then for Prabhu the 'vA vA vanji iLamAnE'...kind of confusing!

There was no such confusion possible in the prior (MGR-Sivaji) era. If there's an album with TMS & PBS songs and the movie had Sivaji & Gemini, we can automatically assume that TMS sang for Sivaji and PBS for Gemini :lol2: However, these kind of equations didn't apply with the arrival of SPB. SPB sang for multiple heroes on the same movie as in this case (or pattAkkaththi bhairavan) and on occasions sang for hero & comedian too (ullAsappaRavaikaL). Not surprising, considering his versatility!

An OK song, nice singing and soft-on-ears-orchestration! While I didn't seek out to listen to this song those days, never got irritated when it played on public address systems! I should add that in the middle of the saraNam, there's a very lovable portion :-)

We have a five more "light weight" numbers in 1988 before we close with the grand last number of the bearded Kamal.

So, this year will close without even touching the #290. So, #300 has to be from 1989!

As there're going to be only some light-weights in the coming days (and I don't have that much nostalgic memories about them also), why not start now some discussions on what will be the best pick to have the triple century tag?

May be I'll throw in a few numbers and let's see what gets picked!

I'm sorry - changed my mind once I saw the movie list :oops:

It has karagam in it - so no poll / no choice / no appeal - it will be mAnguyilE :-)

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and on occasions sang for hero & comedian too (ullAsappaRavaikaL). Not surprising, considering his versatility!

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http://thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp...153%27&lang=en

Few days back reading about "The Dirty Picture" and few more clicks I ended up with "வா மச்சான் வா வண்ணாரப்பேட்டை" from Vandichakkaram. Listening to this song, it appears the MD (Shankar Ganesh) cut loose SPB when recording this song.

This song features Suruli on screen (ie., If you can take your eyes away from other person on the screen, you can actually see Suruli).

Dharmadurai is before Thalapathi only. I remember Dharmadurai releasing in my Class IX pongal holidays and Thalapathy in my Class X diwali hols!

baroque,
Kinetic honda nenachaale nyabagam varuvadhu indha comment from a friend's college yearbook about a fellow classmate:
"You will cry if you think of the fate,
Of the kinetic honda that bears her weight"

:smile2:

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Interestingly, however, the Palakkadan thing that comes to mind w.r.t. this song is the barber shop on the road from Sultanpet to Fort maidAn :oops: Well, there were quite a few on that road and I was not loyal to any one of them. There was one shop that worked even on Tuesdays (which were holidays for saloons in general) where I landed on some Tuesdays. Then there was another that used electric machines (and finished the job in < 10 min, that is before I dozed off) where I went when in a hurry. However, the most visited one was the slow fellow that had a nice music system and played film songs, including the TF ones. Whenever he played TF songs, they invariably were rAsA's and there's no wonder it was my preferred destination.

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Oh, where would our music tastes be without the friendly neighborhood hair-cutting saloon guys and their peculiar spellings?[ ஸம்மர் - Rs 8, ஸ்டெப் - Rs 10, பங்கு - Rs 12 ; பங்கு is extremely funny!!!] "I want to tell you something" was first heard by me at one such saloon.

I recollect the electric machines used by barbers: they resembled a mini-lawn mower and produced sound like a Fighter Jet. I used to pray my ears would remain intact after a haircut session where these frightening machines were used. How happy I was when shops stopped using these machines sometime in early 90s!

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Originally Posted by app_engine

I'm sorry - changed my mind once I saw the movie list :oops:

It has karagam in it - so no poll / no choice / no appeal - it will be mAnguyilE :-)

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App sir, :D Nalla choice !

If not mistaken, the Prabhu song was also meant for Rajini, and when Rajini heard there was no duet for Prabhu, he asked for this song to be for Ilayathilagam. Of course, this is one the fans "see how our talaivar so humble" routines that I heard elsewhere. Whatever it is, it balances, enough duet for each, and one for both. Mother's favourite is Kandupudichen, as app said, tailor-made for the very versatile SPB.

Loved the little expose on the motorbike (how we call here, instead of the very literal two-wheeler) industry there :lol2:. Enakku two-wheeler, whether motorcycle or bicycle, remba bayam. Injured my knees during a bicycle race, and used that as my excuse for pre-mature retirement from football considering I suck at it compared to my awesome two brothers.

App, two :thumbsup: for you.

App-Sir

Though Manguile is one of the greatest songs, I would love to see any of the "Apoorva Sagodharargal" songs for #300.

The movie where IR made a big difference, be it songs or RR, IR stands tall. You can almost watch the movie eyes closed, and you still could judge what is happening thanks to some excellent background score.

Kamal may have done a lot of hard work, but IR easily wins ..

Thanks for the great work..

Bala

Agree with Bala. Raja Kaiya Vecha (SPB version) from AS will be an apt choice for #300.

al_gates,

mmm... that's very insensitive:twisted:
people want to read yearbook when they want to look back.
you don't want to write something nasty about somebody.

:ty: App_eng.

Vaavaa vanji ilamaaney..... is a big hit always.
plenty of violin orchestration. Indeed SPB.

yeah, Balaji,

Aboorva sagodharargal - outstanding album from Ilayaraja.

Bala sang a Rocknroll, B&R & emotive pathos.

One awesome album for Kamal.:thumbsup:

vinatha.

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#277 வா வா வஞ்சி இளமானே
(குரு சிஷ்யன், 1988 , சித்ராவுடன்)

vA vA vanji iLamAnE from Guru shishyan

A number of websites list this song as a Mano song. Is there a Mano version on the cassette or something like that

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Sorry App anna,

If this was the case, it is a serious insult to the great SPB! The company owning the websites/audio tapes should have been sued!

nanRi to all, for the kind words & comments!

vA vA vanji iLamAnE youtube (picturization is ordinary but video quality is good):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsQTn4vtRc

#278 அதிகாலை நேரம் கனவில் உன்னைப்பார்த்தேன்
(நான் சொல்வதே சட்டம், 1988 , ஆஷா போஸ்லேயுடன்)

adhikAlai nEram kanavil unnaippArththEn (nAn solvathe sattam, with Asha Bhosle)

Did I say light-weight songs for the next few days? May be so, from the hit status...but not really from a musical POV. This song had been first heard on a few bus journeys inside Cbe city and I searched around for the details. Obscure movie but possibly a money-bag producer, rich enough to sign-up the Mumbai singer. Or, it could be the other way around - AB came to Chennai for some other prime singing assignment (with salary / # of days fixed) and thanks to the extreme efficiency of rAsA's team, the studio could get a few more numbers recorded without spending much or anything at all :roll:

There's no other explanation to see a ton of AB songs on a movie that had a horrible title like this and an unknown Charanraj doing the lead role (if one goes by Thiraippadal listing of the hero's name). I don't think most people even heard the name of the movie. However, few IR admirers of 80's would have missed the sweet songs from this album. I got this one and another duet (again same pair, will post tomorrow) recorded on a Sony cassette and treated myself regularly those days. These two numbers are among my favourite IR-AB numbers (though these songs didn't earn a place like sheNbagamE in my heart).

The melody is superb and very soothing and SPB's singing is like mayiliRagu koNdu varudal. BTW, the lady who was born in 1933 and started her singing career in 1943 sings this song very nice too :-)

app,
adhikalai kanavil.. nice pick. aasha paati nu solala. thanks.
Naan solvadhae sattam.. elalm nalla irukum. aasha nos. Thanks for the pick app. Indha TFM page ku vandhu dhan
indha paatai naan theirnjinden...........

ennoda most favourite no of aasha and SPB.

sandhoshamana Sivaranjani?

Thanks App for highlighting this song. Thanks. Superb song! Yes, Asha ji's voice does not sound old at all. Her diction is surprisingly good. Thiraipadal quality is excellent.

nanRi Usha chEchi & V_Sji!

There are also a few youtubes (audio only) of this song that have nice audio quality.

I don't think anyone has posted the picturization on the net (better not :lol2:)

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#278 அதிகாலை நேரம் கனவில் உன்னைப்பார்த்தேன்
(நான் சொல்வதே சட்டம், 1988 , ஆஷா போஸ்லேயுடன்)

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App anna
There was another SPB + AB combo, called "oru thEvathai vanthath mana sirai" was that from the same movie?

I like SPB+AB songs, except the fact AB pronunciation of Butter fly in the butter fly song! While SPB says Oh butter fly with such style, she says butteRRRR fly :lol:

#279 ஒரு தேவதை வந்தது
(நான் சொல்வதே சட்டம், 1988 , ஆஷா போஸ்லேயுடன்)

oru dEvadhai vandhadhu (from nAn solvathE sattam with Asha Bhosle)

What a lovely song!

Though I used to make fun of the 'aLakiya dEvadhai' pronunciation of AB those days, there's no question about her excellent singing in this song that takes it to a different level (and I'm positive my fav SJ would have taken it to an even better level). SPB thoroughly enjoys singing as well, while the orchestration is kept to mostly "support mode" to let the melody take the driver's seat. Listening to songs like this on the headphone, lying down in the bed on a calm & silent night with absolutely no disturbances around is what I can call "bliss".

That such a song didn't go unnoticed in TN despite occuring in an obscure movie and got enough air time / bus time etc were possible simply because of the environment that got created by the rAsA phenomenon. (Unfortunately, that had been taken away by late 90's. Nowadays, it appears it's almost impossible for songs that are neither from successful movies nor highly promoted movies to get any kind of recognition. A very different music scene today. This phenomenon is like 'nirabarAthikku dhaNdanai' and is more irritating than the 'kuRRavALi thappiththal' aka popularity of undeserving numbers).

Anyways, like I mentioned before, this song brings me more memories of lachchumi complex and other Cbe roaming arounds. I think I've posted before about the Raja street's Tiffin House in some thread. I had a short-term-room-mate who finished his engg in Cbe and was aware of this place. He introduced me the joint which is on that cross street to oppaNakkAra street and was always crowded (the idlees, dOsais and the variety of chutnies - kathrikkA chutney famous -were all delicious) and one had to wait for the "rationing" much like the college mess. Well, mouth watering memories!

BTW, has any hubber watched this nAn solvathE sattam movie? If so, why not share the experience?

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App anna
There was another SPB + AB combo, called "oru thEvathai vanthath mana sirai" was that from the same movie?

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Posted today :-)

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oru dEvadhai vandhadhu (from nAn solvathE sattam with Asha Bhosle)

SPB thoroughly enjoys singing as well, while the orchestration is kept to mostly "support mode" to let the melody take the driver's seat. Listening to songs like this on the headphone, lying down in the bed on a calm & silent night with absolutely no disturbances around is what I can call "bliss".

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Exactly! This is exactly what I do, listen to such songs when no one is at home, dangerously addictive romantic song! Listen to the bit when SPB starts "Chandira oorkolam kandEn manN meethu"! Excellent Only SPB possible!

Thanks for such wonder full write ups Anna, I have thoroughly enjoyed all the post and thanks again for your “one man contribution” to such divine thread! :notworthy:

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oru dEvadhai vandhadhu (from nAn solvathE sattam with Asha Bhosle)
அதிகாலை நேரம் கனவில் உன்னைப்பார்த்தேன்

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Kudos to a_e, for long time i have listened to both these songs not bothered to find the movie name...thx a_e