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Yes, that's the scene. Just right before they depart on ferry. Mahanadhi ellam parkurathuku onnu masochista irukanum, illa manasu kalla irukanum. I think I'm a bit of masochist-nu. Despite breaking my heart every few minutes in it's running time I still watch Mahanadhi atleast once a year.Athukku mela parkira thairiyam illai.
same here :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stardust
இன்னொரு தடவை குலுங்கிக்குலுங்கி அழுதாச்சு :cry2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stardust
Watched 'bAbul' (2006) that had the intro "from the bAghban team" (DVD from public library)...
First pAthi padu mOsam, still watched as a Hindi education exercise...second pAthi sumAr.
I thought Mumbai is far advanced but this movie portrays as if widow-remarriage had been frowned upon even in 2006 :confused: (Sarika plays a widow and utters just one dialog in the whole movie, for the climax)...other cast : deer KhAn, queen Mukherji, Aish kA mAmanAr, Sunny Deol ki chithi as his beevi, ardh-sathyA Om Puri & one male model as 3rd hero...
Fantastic scene
What absolutely brilliant writing first of all. Kamal is silent throughout.
Not only the horror of finding his daughter in the brothel, but also the unspeakable horror of being suspected of abducting her and being beaten up for it. And the only voice we hear trying to explain is the weak-loser voice of Poornam Viswanathan. The very conceptualization is astounding.
Poornam - the believer, the wisher of good, the only who resigns to fate and wants to live in a peaceful corner - falls at the feet of the pimp and prostitute. Is a thoroughly ineffective advocate in the situation. When the Tamilspeaking madam comes, he totally flops and blabbers and can't even string together a sentence. Overwhelmed by the situation and emotions (solliNdE irukkEn, adikkaREL neenga - he is angry but it is the anger of a mouse!)
And when the madam says that he need not pay for taking Kaveri home, all Panchapakesan can conjure up is 'thanks' :lol: Is he even aware of the enormity of what she is saying!
Extraordinary writing/direction by Kamal.
And he is completely silent. Look at the way he looks up at the madam when she asks the girl to pay. What a complex emotion of overwhelming gratitude, shocked by the unexpected kindness he is showing.
There is one girl who (presumably) says: you give for me today, I will pay you tomorrow.
Why did Kamal insert that shot. More than cash in hand, what does that one line mean. The girl is saying I want to contribute to Kaveri's release today even if it means I have to pay for it by sleeping with someone tomorrow. Ghastly!!
The madam's daugher calling him 'appa' - the impact of that is tremendous.
You can see Panchapakesan in the next scene is relieved to have come out of the personal misery. He wants to retreat to his safe corner unmauled. He will probably want to forget anything happened at all. While Krishnaswamy says: 'ayyO...anga kAvEri maadhiri niRaiya puLLainga irukku Yamuna'.
And the line that shakes me up in this scene...
siri dee, un dheivam vandhirukku dee unnai koottittu pOga
It is Kamal's blackhumour to show faith in the depth of such misery. But it is such a brilliant depiction of the human condition. People will cling on to faith, particularly when that is the only thing they have to cling on to.
Kamal - you beauty!
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Originally Posted by SoftSword
Posted this exact same frame in twitter a few months back. What excellence.
Anbe sivam ellAm unsubtle elaborations of something he has done so much more brilliantly earlier here.
Dasa ellAm :-|
That is what I mean when I say, yes only Kamal can do these films, but should he be doing them when he can do so much so much more with his time and energy.
Heart wrenching scene and at the same time mind boggling at the writing involved in this. Super stuff. Kamal you beauty!!!
The initial reaction from him tugs at my heart strings everytime. The way his daughter shies away from him because of the way she is dressed and how he embraces her without giving a damn about it... Enga amma solra dialogue than gyabagam varuthu. Enna aana enna? pethavangalukku pullainga eppavume thangaloda kulanthaigathan.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
He even falls at her feet at one point. This kind of broad minded thinking is exactly why I think he is generations ahead of all his contemporaries.. While our mass heroes are still degrading women influenced by the social construct, Kamal stands out. He doesn't seemed conditioned by the society or its norms about how women should be treated, especially a sex worker at that. He neither looks at her as a woman nor a sex worker there, he looks at her like the goddess herself. (The scene after-in front of the temple speaks volumes) Partly a reason why I practically worship him. What kind of man he must be and what kind of heart he must possess to harbour such thoughts and perspectives?Quote:
And he is completely silent. Look at the way he looks up at the madam when she asks the girl to pay. What a complex emotion of overwhelming gratitude, shocked by the unexpected kindness he is showing.
And the lamenting after that about why only good people suffer. Mahanadhi is a masterpiece.Quote:
While Krishnaswamy says: 'ayyO...anga kAvEri maadhiri niRaiya puLLainga irukku Yamuna'.
Just listening carefully to the dialogues (overlapping dialogues Altman, Woody 'mbAingaLE)
The pimp calling for the madam as these guys are speaking some madarasi language :lol: She asks 'Tamil?' and he affirms. Just the pronunciation difference in that is :lol:
Meanwhile Poornam is saying: ennadhidhu..solliNdE irukkEn ippadi adichchiNdE irukkELE...pommanaattingaLA irundhuNdu :rotfl:
They are taking it out on Kamal precisely because they think he is the worst of the offenders. A man who is abducting Kaveri to make her his own. It is the rage they have felt against all-men. Panchapakesan can't even realize this. He is still standing in the platform of 'how women should behave'!! Where? In which location? The spot where the oppression of patriarchy is the strongest!
oru manushanaala eppadinga ivvaLavu deep-A ezhudha mudiyin? :bow:
And now in addition to Krishna,Kaveri,bharaNi, Narmada,Saraswati,Yamuna,Panchabi.. I just realized the madam's (Ganga!) daughter's name is Jalaja
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