Exactly. Now the time is ripe for rethinking, for acknowledging gender equality. Are we not an enlightened lot?
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Exactly. Now the time is ripe for rethinking, for acknowledging gender equality. Are we not an enlightened lot?
Nice thread Pavalamani - good you started it - and gr8 responses too.
Now lets look at this from the biology part of the sexes:
1) Why are men stronger than the women in strength?
Simply because they are weaker in all matters otherwise! Male babies have higher mortality rates than female babies, more delicate digestive constitutions than female babies and develop language skills (+ other growing up milestones like walking, etc) later than female babies. All the muscle and strength in boys comes only after puberty. Why? Simply to protect the most delicate part of the man's body that starts developing after puberty. :wink:
Moreover, men are not designed to bear physical pain. Nature wise, women are considered the 'stronger species' fit for giving birth. Plus women are endowed with enormous patience as compared to men. Women are more fit for multi-tasking jobs as their brains are designed so. Men are more prone to stress than women. The para-sympathetic and sympathetic nervous system can function at the same time in women but in men only one can work at the same time, so a angry man simply cannot be loving, while a woman shouting at her husband in anger can feel love for her child at the same time.
2) Socially why are men expected to pass on the family baton with females being given all the inferior roles?
I think women have given that mantle to men. Women are by nature more cunning and born survivors. They know men are easily prone to aggresiveness, plus they have better ability for physical prowess, so women use men as pawns to get what they want (except few of those independent women). A woman can raise her son to treat other women like herself well (like blahblah's wonderful mom) but most women would rather use the son to remain the greatest object of affection in the son's life even after he is married (natural jealousy, its Freudanian guys, its in the deep-psyche so a woman wud not realise herself and would be shocked if you explained it to her). That is why you hv the very natural biological basis of a Mother-in-law Versus Daughter-in-law inability to accept each other. When a woman has many children or with education, awareness and raising levels of working women, you can expect this MIL vs DIL problems to reduce but not be completely gone. A blessed few men have women in their lives (mother, sister(s), wife, daughter(s)) who don't fight over him.
Like someone wrote abt a DIL who sits on the floor -- well, if the MIL wanted, she could get the entire family to treat the DIL as an equal. But to keep her power, she hasn't. Sometimes I feel, women, esp Indian, will never be able to get over kitchen politics, cannot help making comparisons and will try to keep their immature ego, come what may. When this DIL becomes a MIL herself, lets see how she will be able to restrain her frustration as she too will want to treat her DIL the same way as her MIL treated her. How is she going to raise her sons in their attitude towards women? Men treat women as inferior as their moms told them so. So women hv an equal role as a man's in psychological abuse against women (naturally, you cannot clap with one hand).
Abt movies, infantile men can only make movies reflecting their own true natures. So you hv men who boost their Pseudomasochistic tendencies by slappin women, 'conquering' women thru eve-teasing, etc. Aborting female foetuses hv already created probelms in some places in Himachal Pradesh and some Gujrati communites, where there are very-very few females for men to get married too. They learnt their lesson, when will the other communities follow suit??
Very interesting, happyindian! I admire the accuracy & veracity of all the facts you have revealed. They resemble my ideas almost cent percent! Very long ago in this very section one Ellen had a dicussion of man's masterliness where I remember having given these points, explaining also woman's knack of taking a second place knowing fully well her sway over the brood! The facts about MIL & DIL are also true. very magnanimous, self-confident, self-reliant women with lots of intellectual activities alone cant spare their energy & ingenuity in this peculiar warfare creating a perpetual dilemma for the menfolk of the household. The TV mega serials are making big money on this theme. It is at once amusing and infuriating- the way womanhood is portrayed by them. If such stuff propagated through the MEDIA is not censored, censured, made aware of, there is going to be no end to violence against women, no real enlightened existence of happy human beings on this earth!!!
The topic of female infanticide, very much a part of violence against women, induced me to post my story, "India Smiles" in this miscellaneous section. Please let me have feedback.
Very nice Pavalamani - please give me the link to your story "India smiles".
The prob with these mega-serials is that they lead women in general to think that such sadistic behaviour is normal and acceptable in a society. Not many MILs understand that it is ABNORMAL to feel satiated when anyone is unhappy, esp if it is someone you needle for the sake of keeping power to yourself. Only development of interests and hobbies can help some of these elderly women.
Both men & women(including MILs :) ) need to be appreciated to feel good! Keeping oneself employed creatively is the clue to that good feeling of self-esteem :D
[quote="davie"]If india becomes like USA, then there will be about 80% of single women with kids as in the USA, then they start searching for a friend + husband to take care of their kid, to hang around etc. do u people want such kind of things to happen in india????/quote]
Well said, davie! Unfortunately, the new-gen. Indian women today, who wish to gain the 'independence' they always talk abt, seem to be straying into the same path, what w/ live-in relationships etc....quite common in the Metros.
I do believe that women in our country deserve equal rights and dignity/justice BUT I don't approve of this deviation of theirs from our culture/way of life in the name of 'freedom'!
Quite true, I agree 100%! :)
Woman should not be beaten, torutured, etc. After all, in our Hindu Sashtras, it's said a town where there is no temple, and where woman suffer is bound to founder sooner of later. Woman should have equal rights etc, but letting go of our culture is no way to do it. :)
Yea I do rem. this article.....and I believe u've also heard about numerous cases where Indian girls/women from poor families were offered jobs as maids (or just ne jobs) in Dubai but after being taken there, they were sold into prostitution to other countries- can u dig tat- SOLD! in this age of 'democracy', 'liberty' etc.....ha! And ppl. who were behind this operations were Indians (NRIs)themselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by r_kk
And this has been happening for the last 2 decades until the Indian Govt. is finally said to've put an end to it recently! Sheesh......after hearing such things, I wonder if India deserved to become a democracy at all! I mean this crime used to go on during the Moghul invasion, centuries ago!!
The same thing also used to happen here in Singapore, before maybe obtaining Visas for entering Sing. was made compulsory for Indians in 1986.
Well, I know tat atleast among South Indians, there is a ceremony to honour the wife when she's known to've become pregnant (called SEEMANDHAM).....I havn't heard of northies following this...??Quote:
Originally Posted by r_kk
And yea, I've also a question abt Hinduism- despite being a Hindu myself, I've always questioned the belief of woman accepting her husband as God......how can NE woman in NE religion accept her husband as God, when she sleeps w/ him, has xxx w/ him etc.....when I asked my mum this, she said it was bcos husbands used to be the sole bread-winners of homes, so the wife had to worship him for being the provider for the whole family!
But I still argue how ne woman cud hav such an intimate/promiscuous relationship w/ God??! If this is acceptable, it comes under Blasphemy! LoL.....:-)
Ne of ur views??
I hav the same qsn. myself in this regard, for all those 'Mahila Sabhas' out there (nuff said!)Quote:
Originally Posted by r_kk
Violence against women... not a good thing. Should be condemned by all. Woman is just worthy of respect as a man.
According to Hinduism, a woman is a form of energy (shaktiswarupini) or an aspect of Shakti. She is mata, the Mother Goddess, or devi the auspicious one. As a young child she is kanya, the goddess Durga. As a wife she is patni and saha dharma charini, a partner in her husbands religious duties. As a mother she is worthy of worship (matrudevobhava).