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Thank you Geno - that online dictionary would be useful. And thanks to Sudhama and Viggop too.
BTW, Tamils had various types of flutes and pipes, harps (yazh) and drums. Did they have some sort of fiddle - stringed but played with a bow??? What is the Tamil name for that?? Checking.... Anyone....
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I have seen rajasthan folk musicians use a instrument which has only a single string and a bow.
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kinnaram - The violin of the Tamils
Thirunavukkarasar (5 - 6th century AD) frequently mentions this instruments in his Thevaram.
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In song 5.31.10 Appar says that even the Ilangai King Ravana sang the Lord with the Kinnaram accompaniment...
BTW, what does Kinnaram mean in Malayaalam?? Web search for 'kinnaram' showed many Malayaalam sites.. Just curious!
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Idiappam Sir
What happened to these instruments?
How did the Kinnaram look like? was it a stringed instrument akin to the modern day violin? What happened to Yazh? How did it all disappear in later days? Did the musicians who practiced it lose interest with it and moved over to other instruments?
Some old instruments like mridangam,flute,veena etc are still there.
Hope the archaeolgy department finds some artifacts of these instruments. It would give us a clue to the type of sounds these instruments produce.Probably,people can learn to play it again if we know how it looked like.
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Ravana is also supposed to be a great Veena player.
What is the history of nadhaswaram which is known for mangala isai? is it a very old instrument? Is there any reference to it in ancient Tamil texts? How was it known to ancient Tamilians?
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Dear Mr IDIAPPAM,
Many Thanks for your ENRICHMENT of this thread... by taking trouble to fech the Original Text forms of ... APT... Tamil Quotations...
... from PURHANAANOORHU ... and ... THAEVAARAM...
But on my TWO Requests...
(1) I am unable to follow the Purhanaanoorhu words.. . Will you please post its meanings also.... word by word.?
(2) VANNAM... as per your Quotations... Does it mean .. "VARNAM"... in the Carnatic-music... similar to Keerthana, Thillaana, Viruththam etc.... in a Concert?....
You know... coventionally the VARNAM... is sung as the Firstl item of Concert
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WOW!! :shock: Excellent thread!! Thanks to Sudhamma, and Idiappam, Vignop, etc.! :thumbsup:
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Idiappam
Like Sudhaama, I too would like to know the meanings of the Tamil quotes you had reproduced here.
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Oh dear, I thought I could go on to 'pan peyarthal' (tonic shift) the Tamils described in their Literature - silapathigaram especially. Mr Sudhama, giving meanings 'word for word' for everything I quote would just keep me occupied and busy (Is that indended - I hope not).
Anyway, I will post the meanings soon.
Thank you anyway, for creating this opportunity to share with all of you the Greatness of Tamil Isai.. You too, Viggop and Surya.
Vazhga Pallaandu!
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Thanks Idiappam! :clap: Eagerly waiting. :D :thumbsup: