Ilaiyaraaja - The Singer

மற்றபடி , இப்படி மற்றப் பாடகர்களுக்கு பகிரங்கமாக கோரிக்கை வைப்பதை விடுத்து, தமிழ் பக்திப் பாடல்களை சங்கீதப் பாடகர்கள் பாடி வெளியாகியாயுள்ள நிறைய பாடல்களை கேட்க ஆரம்பித்தாலே போதும். இந்த "ராஜா-மட்டுமே பாடமுடியும்..மற்றவரெல்லாம்.." என்ற நிலை கரைந்துவிடும்.

venkiram,

Neenga sonna - pira kalainyargalin
bhakthi padalai kaetu irukiren.

analum,

Raavin Isaiyil - Raaja matumae IPADI pada mudiyum..
mtarvar ellam - enra ennathil

Maatru karuthu - katayam varadhu venkiram.

Nichayam idhu Oru Unarvu poorvamana vishayam.

Unarvu - idhai puriya vaika mudiyadhu.
kaata mudiyadhu.......

LIke the GOD.

God - oru feelings.

God ai unaranthavargalukae kuda

ennal - en unardhalai kaata mudiyadhu.
puriya vaika mudiyadhu.

Adhai pola,
INdha IR in Voice - Avarudiaya Isaiyil.......

venkiram,
Ungal kelviku oru bhadhil

Neengal sollum - Popular Singer ai

paada vaithu - TIS album - vetri adaindhal,

appodhum

Neengalum , indha ulagmum enna solveergal..

Indha singers nala indha album great Success.

Raaja vaal illai.

so

Raaja vai - kurai koorubavargal

epadiyum kooralam.

Adhan Raaja.
indha jenmathil idhu avarudiaya fate.

frivolous i say!
@venkikram - As CR said- you missed the TIS point big big time.
matra carnataka paadagargal paadum bodhu, idhenna raagam, idharkenna varayarai, eththanai maathiraikku neettalaam - idhu poandra 'technical' samaacharangal avargalariyaamal melongum. Idhai 'Akhand' endra naveena, carnataka paadagargal paadiyirukkum bhakthi sangeedham moolam neengal unaralaam.
Ketpadharku sugamaana anubhavam aLippadhe pradhaana nokkam.
Aanaaal Thiruvasagam kaetpadharkondrum sugaanubhavam kodukkum thudhippaadal alla. It is a 'emotional tempest'. Gnanap pulambal. than piraviyin payan veen endru unarndhu pirppil irundhu thannai viduvikka kOari iraivanidam seyyappadum oru Paer murayeedu (Great request). Oru pulambal, visumbal, thannizhivu - adhai endha karnatic kombanaalum mudiyaadhu. Adharku oru singer + oru poet + oru athma parisodhagan (person questioning the self) vendum. Enakku therindhu andha bhaavaththai Baluvum S.Janakiyum, Yesappuvum mattume 'voice' il kondu vara mudiyum . Aanaaal adhayum thaandiya ilakkiya, aanmeega veLippadu indraya dhedhiyil Raasappu mattume seyyak koodiya oru seyal.
Before you start wondering, I will give you a example - IF you can get hold of a kannada film song - 'Bhoomike bandha devaki kandha' sung by SPB under GK Venkatesh - please do - the way Balu has sung it - with sobs, deliberate delays to enhance bhaava - that is the feel to be provided with the knowledge of words like ' malanjoarum onbadhu vaayir kudilai'. So without a choice Raasappu has to cast himself and the album is MONUMENTAL without any questions.
I am just waiting for the day when Raasappu brings out the Siddhar paadalgaL.

It is not always that the singer with the 'best voice' or 'best classicism' conveys the intended effect. An example would be the 'Marudamalai Mamaniye' song from 'Deivam', sung by Madurai Somu. Yes, there were other singers who had a 'better' voice / vocal range than Somu, there were other singers, who were more 'classical' than Somu but would any one have done the same justice to this song that Somu did. I think not for what Somu brought out was an emotion which is beyond the voice and classicism.

What Jai says is right. 'Tiruvasagam' was the plea of Manikavasagar to God. In the hands of another great artist, it turns into a personal plea of that artist. And these cannot be submitted to others. What comes out eventually is the extreme personal anguish of Raja. This would never have happened in the voice of another singer. If you see, the most impersonal song in the album 'Mutthu Natraram' is given to other singers. All other songs are very personal in nature and Raja took the right decision of singing them himself.

Reg the list of carnatic music singers that Venki has mentioned, I don't think anyone would have done justice to the tunes Raja had conjured up because they are basically carnatic music singers and not film singers. Maybe Balu at his peak minus all the dramatics or Yesudas at his peak may have done justice to the tune but even then my theory is that the personal touch, the personal communication with God, would have been missing.

Yup, agree with Jai. Quite frivolous, this debate. Contrary to what Venki has been stating, I don't think anyone is saying that Raja is the be all and end all of bhakthi sangeetham. What everyone is saying is that he Tiruvasagam, that Raja designed, needed a Raja for the implementation as well. Yes, there have been other composers and singers who have given good bhakthi songs. I do not question that. What I am trying to reiterate is that there has been no one who tried _this_ type of experiment and Raja's voice suits this to a T.

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Originally Posted by tvsankar

venkiram,
Yar paadi irundhalum, Adhu Periya Success
aga irundhu irukadhu.

TIS - Idhu miga periya experimental album.

idhai purindhu kondu unarndhu kolla

7 Jenmam podhadhu - yarukum.

Adhu dhan unmai.

Paadiya Rajjaval tholvi ilai.

Power of the Album - Miga Periyadhu.

Oru vinyana kandupidipu madhiri.

Isaiyin pudhiya parimanam.

yarukum puriyavilali.

ADhanal dhan muzhu vetriyai adaiyavillai.

TIS - Anaivaraiyum - oru Kalathil
Sendraiyum.

Andha Nalail Raaja nammidam iruka matar.
Adhu dhan nijam...

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ROmba azhagA post paNni irukkeenga. Idhu theevira IR fans-in typical feeling-nu nenakikkarEn. I can empathize word by word

plum,

ROmba azhagA post paNni irukkeenga. Idhu theevira IR fans-in typical feeling-nu nenakikkarEn. I can empathize word by word

IR melae irukara Affection la sollalai plum.

Unmaiyial avar music il vishayam iruku.

ADhu - sendru adaiyatha - nalla album mel

varum kavalai.

Avvalavu dhan.

in my personal experiences,

Annakili - ennudaiya 13 vayadhil kaeten.
Just isaikaga.

anal - indru dhan - andha paatin Interludes
purigiradhu.
Nanraga kaetkavum vasathi vandhu irukiradhu.

about raagam - raagam knowledge enaku ipodhu
konjam vadhu iruku.

so raagathin azhagai - rasika manasil idam
iruku.
oru Annakili ku indha nilai.
then
How about this TIS album.
adhan apadi sonnen.

Appodhum - Ippodhu m- Eppodhum

IR in isaiyai patriya enadhu karuthu

Irakum varai - Ivarudaiya isaiyai
karka vendum......

avarudaiya isai - oru music Syllabus plum.

solla marandhu vitten,


Avarudaiya Isai - Own Product of HIM.

:) there are 4 paths of yoga - bakthi yoga, gnana yoga, karma yoga, raja yoga...thiruvasagam in symphony is not a typical "bhakthi margam" product, it is product for people treading the gnana margam - so (isai)gnani is the best choice. IMHO

Dear Vel,
Thanks for NIce words.

"it is product for people treading the gnana margam - so (isai)gnani is the best choice. IMHO"


Beautifuly expressed the truth.

Thank you Vel.