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Nilavu,
Me too think the same.
My favourite actors past and present are MGR and Kamal
Both of them are great technicians who excels in many departments.
Of course Kamal a step ahead.
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Nilavu,
Me too think the same.
My favourite actors past and present are MGR and Kamal
Both of them are great technicians who excels in many departments.
Of course Kamal a step ahead.
:thumbsup:
ada ada ada
My name is justice
I'm also an admirer of MGR :clap:
Stranger and Nilavupriyan....
Just a suggestion to both....
You may settle scores about Rajini in another thread but IMO its absolutely of no relevance in MGR thread ....
Best regards
justice,
What is ur original name. I have seen several of your posts. You have a good humour sense.
:D
Coming Back to MGR's Talents, I read this in some magazine. For Ulagam Sutrum Vaaliban movie(USV) ( Directed by Makkal Thilagam) MGR asked MSV to record songs for USV before going to foreign locations for the movie. MSV was asking for the situations. Since the story itself was not ready ,MGR asked MSV to record few love songs, one message songs, etc. If you see the movie nobody will believe that the songs were recorded even before development of the story. The movie is one among the greatest entertainment movies of Tamil Cinema with social message. What a great mind MGR had.
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MGR and Kamal were really gr8 persons on screen.. but i havent heard gud words abt MGR in their real life. may be i may be wrong. coz it was told by 70 yr old people.
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Originally Posted by kb
A simple logic.
If he is not good in real life he would not have been ruling Tamil Nadu for 10 years continously. He won the elections even without any major alliance.
Once he was ill the whole Tamil Nadu was praying for his recovery.
Do you think this will happen to any other politician/actor of tamil nadu.
The kind of popularity he got among Tamil people nobody could never imagine about. In politics who said bad things about MGR also, in the later stages praised MGR (eg. Vaiko, TR).
Those who are loyal supporters of DMK only used to say that MGR is bad and several non existing stories about him.
Let us not talk about rumours which nobody can prove. Let us talk about the greatness which were publicly appreciated or good works of Makkal thilagam in the cine field.
many rumours were created to pull him down from his place. He's the best personality :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Thirumaran
You ae right. MGR told MSV to compose songs like this
one padagu song
one dream song
one song with children
one song for EXPO 70
but he manage adopt the song very well in that movie. Ever green numbers from MSV. remarkable variety. You can go through the separate thread created for USV
ramesh
MGR is the no.1 Superstar in India..
He never smokes, drinks,
every movie theres mother sentiment....
even in his movies, theres no scene where he ties thali..
MGR A MAN WHO MOST OF THE POLITICIANS NOW DREAM OF BECOMING!!!
MGR may be talked ill by some but still he was kind and took care of the poor and helped them a lot!!!!!
or else he wudnot hav won the elections lying ill in USA!!!!many said that he is dead but still people were confident MGR will come back to rule them!!!!
POWER OF MGR IS UNMATCHED!!!!
I recently heard a song from mgr movie, Idhayakani rated U.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Here is what few lines I heard:
ithazhE ithazhE thEn vENdum.
in the middle someone was saysing:
haa, mella mella thodungaL
and all kind of moaning worse than any A-rated movies of S J Surya
Tell me thiru. thriumaraa!
What message he was giving to public through this song?
It is not a rumour!
You can rent it and watch the movie with YOUR FAMILY as it is rated U. 8-)
Just like any other actors' fnas MGR fans have as many smokers as Shivaji or Rajni fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
Show me a data which shows that MGR fans smoke less than shivaji fans.
What you dont know is you cant bs around here with these kind of CRAP! :lol:
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Originally Posted by stranger
When I think about MGR's movie songs i could recollect severeal good songs. When you think about MGR's songs these kind of comes into your mind. That shows the taste of yours.
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Even if there are certain lines which you feel is A rated, the song is the one which he sings with his wife/ lover. I dont see anyting wrong with that.
By the i am not interested in any argument. I said let us talk about good things. If you are still interested in talking bad things only then carry on. I will definetly appreciate your good work.
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Originally Posted by stranger
When I think about MGR's movie songs i could recollect severeal good songs. When you think about MGR's songs these kind of comes into your mind. That shows the taste of yours.
:(
Even if there are certain lines which you feel is A rated, the song is the one which he sings with his wife/ lover. I dont see anyting wrong with that.
By the i am not interested in any argument. I said let us talk about good things. If you are still interested in talking bad things only then carry on. I will definetly appreciate your good work.
Is that so????Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaran
So one can show the WHOLE bed-room scene if he is having sex with is wife in the movie??? :twisted:
And you can use yur political influence to ge an U-certificate????
Who told you that anyway it is okay to show everything if it is a legal relationship, huh? :lol:
I do accept that Many of the MGR's fans could be chain smokers. The point is not that. Even if few of his followers changes their mind after watching his movies that is more than enough. Atleast nobody will start smoking/ drinking beacause of his movies. I think that itself is more than enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by stranger
I dont have any data as you asked. I know 2 persons saying they stopped smoking once they become fans of MGR.
1. My Father.
2. My Neighbour who is of same age as my Father.
Also i have come across certain people who started smoking by looking at their star smoke in the screen. They started it as a style and got addicted.
If you believe it or not that is the truth.
Also being an MGR fan I never smoked/ drank in my life for the past 27 years.
I know the cigarrette sales is more when an MGR film is screened when compared to a shivaji film in the rural area because u see young and middle aged men ffnas in MGR film! :cool:
So, his demenstration gets nowhere but it only tries to showing off like he is a nice guy in the world to the IGNORANT morons!
I have neighbor he is a #1 mgr fans smokes two packs of marlboro everyday! :)
Keep this also in your account! :lol:
Jus coz MGR smokes u say that his fans smoke....
MGR has 4 wives,Y not his fans try the same :rotfl:
Without any knowledge dont talk rubbish. The movie Idayakani came after he come out of DMK who were ruling at that time. Where is the question of Political Influene :oQuote:
Originally Posted by stranger
all actor's songs had bad lyrics so what :huh:
doesn't RK have?
doesn't KH have?
Is there any problem with your eyes. Please see my post properly and then post. If you did not understand what i wrote please call me and i will explain the same. My number is 203-326-2453Quote:
Originally Posted by stranger
By the way dont spoil this thread. :(
MGR is a good personality
he was the best
if anyone can prove me wrong, prove me then
I dont want to argue once again in this thread regarding this. I have already said in this thread not to talk anything personal. I believe you would have come to this world after MGR's Death. How many persons you enquired about his personal in these years. Or which magazine u searched which have proper eveidence of all these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
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Stop talking abt actors personal things.As if all of you(Public) are clean
dear All,
Once again requesting you all to focus on the main topic.... on the positive side of Makkal thilagam and not to throw mud on each other
Happy new year 2006
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Originally Posted by Thirumaran
They wouldn't have an answer for this :twisted: .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirumaaran
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So, an actor should come and
* save a kezhavi, *
* ask latha whether the maangaai she stole, is" kaayaa illai pazhamaa" (how can a mangaai be a pazham :roll: )
* wave your hand in all the directions for every song
are the real acting????
If shivaji did not drink and smoke how would one create character such as
* sinna jameen and drunkard in vasantha maaLigai
or
* an egoistic barristor rajnikanth in Gauravam
in the world, moronic clowns????
paNdaaramA nadichittu oorukku ubathEpannittu thiriyirathuthaan nadippu????
What a waste you are thirumaaraa! :(
we are not talking abt the acting ability of m.g.r....just his public image and his generosity!Quote:
Originally Posted by stranger
if u consider those things u have mentioned....only shivaji and kamal are actors!
i have seen some heroes who had done police officer role with un-buttoned kaaki shirt,pant inside the boots,t-shirt inside etc....
m.g.r is better
In what?Quote:
m.g.r is better
figuring out a maangaai is kaayaa illai pazhamA? :rotfl:
I accept my defeat. I am a waste. You are the most intellegent who knows more about everything. Please do not spam in this thread. You can go to Rajini and Vijay's thread and talk about their meaningful movies and their acting abilities and compare them with MGR and be happy. Let the other people make some meaningful discussion over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by stranger
no...Quote:
Originally Posted by stranger
better than guys who had done police officer role with un-buttoned kaaki shirt,pant inside the boots,t-shirt inside etc....
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ..
:lol:
pandianin raajiyathil uyyalala
Thanks! :)Quote:
I accept my defeat. I am a waste.
I like a real man like you who is whole-heartedly accepting the defeat! :notworthy:
Take care! :)
Shall we analyse some of the songs that featured in Makkal thilagam’s movies …….
Its an established fact that MGR had a wonderful flair for music . This also had made legendary composers like MSV-TKR, KVM benefited to a larger extent.
Another classic example is 2 splendid compositions that Shankar Ganesh duo did for :
1.Naan yen pirandhen
2.Idhaya veenai
From an above average standards , ShankarGanesh’s fame rose to dizzy heights after the 2 movies…..and they are still being remembered today for the above 2 movies ! and such was the extraordinary musical sense by MGR !
Rarely we have come across MGR’s songs not being popular…….
The late 60s and early 70s witnessed some incredible music from Mellisai Mannar .
KANNAN EN KAADHALAN
I restrict myself to the songs only as MGR was ahead of times on picturisation ( Makkal Thilagam did wonders despite the not so advanced stages of cinematography )…probably to overcome his limitations as an actor ( say like Shivaji ) he focused on other finer aspects of making a movie and established himself as a model for future generation. ….sheer survival instinct must have made MGR successful in life …after all when he became a dominant hero, he was already in his late 30s !
The greatness of the 2 legendary personalities MSV and IR stems from the fact that they studied the whole storyline , at times guide the Director as to how and when a song can be positioned so that it will have maximum impact which ultimately will contribute to the overall success of the movie…..such was their professional commitment ….there were instances where both had made mind boggling changes at the last minute to make a tune or a BGM more meaningful …..
There is a reason for highlighting this fact as, in this movie too , a song was needed to PROVOKE and ENTHUSE A HANDICAPPED PERSON TO STAND UP AND DANCE ….
How to make one handicapped character cheerful and stand up , dance ??
The tune, the rhythm and the background music should be so scintillating that it automatically triggers passion and enthusiasm ……..
Here comes a brilliant, imaginative composition from the LITTLE MASTER OF MELODY
PAADUVOR PAADINAAL AADA THONDRUM….
This song was finalized after several tunes by MSV and finally shorlisted and finalized by MGR……
True ….. when TMS is the singer , the pulling power of his voice will make even someone down physiologically and psychologically, to get thrilled and stand up to dance !
And when it gets associated with stalwarts like Mellisai mannar, Makkal thilagam ….its something special…….
Its no wonder that JJ will start dancing …. At times twist dance also …..
The situation ….. MGR , in a birthday party, in suit , sitting proudly with a piano and starts …….
TMS starts with somewhat like a virutham…slowly singing Paaduvor paadinaal ( a gentle piano background )
After a brief pause , there will be splendid combination of Piano and violin with tabla and drums and bangoos once again ! ( with just these support instruments MSV created a magic those days ) finally with clapping…..
There will be parallel shots showing a cheerful MGR, the party members , JJ’s foot , trying to control but gradually getting tempted by the pull of the song’s rhythm, shaking of head acknowledging the splendid rhythm and finally will storm in to dance…..
Paaduvor paadinaal aadathondrum…..
The interludes before the charanam …..paatil suvaiyirundhaal aatam thaanay varum…..its a virtual war between flute , piano, violin, tabla again !
One gets tempted to rewind several times when TMS reaches the stage ….Thannai marandhadhu kandu , thulli ezundhadhu vandu…..nooladarndha idai dhaan neliya…nooru kodi vindhai puriya…….nooru kodi vindhai puriya……. A big pause …….and TMS resumes again with a clapping
The tune, the rhythm pattern will all be exact match for the situation…. MG trying to enthuse cheer and audio delight …. will make everyone dance automatically
Also, as the scene warranted Makkal thilagam to sit and play Piano, he was totally restricted from making his routine mannerisms…..Kayyayum kaalayum asaikaamal MGR illai ! but as if he is tied to the instrument, MG will respond to the song ……at times using one hand to run through the piano while using the other hand for demonstrating his expressions ! quite a fascinating character Makkal thilagam is !
The same song will get repeated and this time the scenario will be totally different as Vanishree will be tempted to stand up and dance…..
SIRITHAAL THANGA PADHUMAI…adada adada enna pudhumai…..koduthen endhan manadhai ……. A song which will speak volumes of MSV melody…. Its another gem of a duet from PS – TMS…..This is a typical Makkal thilagam song , loaded with melody….this type of song , one can hear quite regularly in his movies….few examples are Unnai paarthu kondirundhaal paatu varum, Chinnavalai mugam sivandhavalai….
MINIMINAY KANMANIYAY KONDAVALAY ENNIDAMAY…… a song with a difference….rhythm pattern will be different …..TMS this time with LRE …its one of the best of LRE
One reason why MSV songs are still being cherished now , could be that of his long association with Makkal thilagam…..who must have made MSV work overtime and stretch to the maximum so that the best output comes….the more you ignite a gold and more will be its shine …..
I have heard that some of MSV - MGR’s rejected tunes were used for other movies and they also became hits later !
I continue to wonder the enchanting melodies of Makkal thilagam’s movies which have stood the test of times and are still being heard at large …….
For those who question Makkal thilagam’s limitations as an actor should look at other positive sides ……his flair for music, the picturisation, the manner in which he instituted basic discipline through his movies , the way he positioned himself smartly to capture the hearts of the entire Tamilnadu
Lets appreciate the fact that anything that is conveyed through a movie gets the attention of an ordinary citizen and its paramount that positive messages are communicated and MG took care that they are presented in the most ideal manner
Lets also forget and forgive his off screen image on personal front with fellow stars …..Are we 100 % pure, clean and sincere in our personal life ?? lets ask this question to our inner consciousness and you will get an answer ….
One of my favourite MGR song os Vizhiyae kathai ezhuthu.. from Urimai Kural.
I think it was Yesudass's first song in tamil. Is that right?
The director of the movie(Sridhar) was interested in taking the song completely in Seashore with MGR and latha walking around. MGR thought it will be good to take the song with the costumes of Prince and princess with expensive sets.
Because of this there was a misunderstanding between Sridhar and MGR.
Definetly it could have been a class if it would have taken in the manner Sridhar liked. MGR thought it may not not reach the mass.
Finally it was taken as per MGR's wish and became a massive hit.
Vizhiyae kathai yezhuthu,
Kaneeril yezhuthathae,
Manjal vaanam.. Thendral saatchi,
unakkaagavaey naan vaazhgiraean..
Thirumaran
Viziyay kadhai ezudhu is one of the best songs of MGR and its Yesudas's first song for Makkal thilagam...
Actually its a very lengthy song with splendid interludes composed by MSV...its a pity that those days, Chennai vaanoli nilayam had edited the interludes and you could hear a cut short version only
You will also realise that the style of the entire movie was typical MGR's and not Sridhar's and this sums up the whole story.....
MGR always wanted his style and thoughts implanted on his movies....
dign:
vizhiyE was not yesudas's first song.
his first song was in some old movie,,directed by VEENAI BALACHANDAR.
Movie was called BOMMAI
his song was........
"neeyum bommai
naanum bommai
nenachu partha
ellaaam bommai"
end dign.
SP
You are right . Neeyum bommai was KJY's first tamil song
I think for MGR his first song was Viziyay kadhai ezudhu.
Pl confirm this.
not sure balaji. I think yes. that may be the first one.
IF i am not wrong hez sung "nalai namathE" songs.
"neela nayanangaLil oru neenda kanavu vanthathu"
If tht movie is after the movie u mentioned... then may be u are right.
SP
You are right. KJY sang 2 songs in Nalai namadhey
1. Neela nayanangalil - with PS
2. Kadhal enbadhu kaaviyamaanal - with PS
3. Ennai vitaal yaarumillai - Solo
and this came after Urimai kural only