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P,
thanks for the link, probably the first unofficial first hand info on the album by the journalist,
also TISK thanks for sharing your personal experience giving a little more info ( I will be emailing you soon please acknowledge at your free time). I just read some comments and reply by this journalist (Ramya K) in her blogspot (linked above), one comment by her
"i did a small piece already for the paper on TiS, but fr. gasper raj wants me to do a review of the cd. let's see..."
This journalist has admitted herself that she is neither a musician nor an officiando herself and what she expressed was as a common listener, having said that, a little concern from me ( and probably by many in the forum I think )that a monumental work such as this needs review by some experts and critics with adequate knowledge and if Rev.Fr.Jegath has time to ckeck on this forum, my sincere request, as many have suggested for a long time, It will have a better impact and reach if the product reaches for review by more experts and critics from different parts of the world ( to begin with in India)
Prabhudas
I read sometime back in vikatan that IR sent the RPO symphony's cassette through Karthik Raja to Subbudu in Delhi for listening (after Subbudu wrote in an article about his old age / health / heart surgery etc. concluding whether he'll listen to symphony in his lifetime at all)...and this gesture was very much appreciated by the elderly critic...
I think IR himself can recommend who are the critics / experts that need to get a copy and evaluate...On a lighter note, I would not recommend the copy to be given to anybody related to any TFM MD:-) (album release'kku munnAdiyE suttu viduvArgaL)
Just imagine Deva getting a copy of TIS (TBI) for evaluation:-)
....with Udit Narayan and his daughter singing :D :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
IIR has come wayyyyyyyyy out of that cine talk with this music but the rest of us here are still in that celluloid mode !!
Friends! Please come out of that and try to live in a different world where music is divine and elevating your general outlook!
I've been saying for almost over an year that this TiS [TbI] is not Virumaandi nor Pithaamagan but no one seems to be listening!
That's another reason why there are no known names or voices like SPB etc. to make you identify totally with this music only and not divert your attention in any way.
I am not objecting to you having some fun here like we have just before the wedding night but i request you to be focussed to enjoy something totally different!
We will be uploading a sample Cd to give you an idea in a day or two as to what we are talking here.
YIA!!
TISK,
WHO is going to release the CD ? I mean who is going to preside the function ? Is it CM / PM / other ?
What will be the price of the CD/ Cassette ?
TISK, your post cleared one of my doubts. I wondered why were'nt any of the popular singers' voices used and your post has a valid point. As you have said, its difficult to comprehend what kind of album TiS would be - because I can understand that Symphony is a fusion of all western instruments and chanting a Tamil hymn set to a Symphony.... hmm... its like thinking about the 4th dimension!!! Sounds really interesting... It'll be great if you can post us a glimpse of the album (ofcouse much before the relase ;-)). Thanks!
IR says it is not a symphony, it is called as Aretoria!.
Source : This week Ananda Vikatan,
Any more info?
Sanjeevi, "Aretoria" illeenga, adhu `ORATORIO'...
http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/g_oratorio.html
Translation of IR's interview in Vikatan ....
When Shri Illayraaja soulfully sings "Nama shivaya Vazhga " ,the
spiritual vibrations of it fills the whole house.When he
finishes singing and comes out of that state ,his eyes are moisted
with tears .
Says Ilayraaja " This Thiruvasagam project is a result of my intense
desire to do something for the youth generation.
(Gives an example ) If you don't clean a house for days ,dust starts
accumulating ;If it is left as it is for four days ,then spiders and
dirt starts accumulating ;Left unclean for a month ,rats and mouse
settle there ;If its unattended for a year ,even if its a palace it
will be ruined !
"(Having Known this fact) ,we haven't preserved our cultural treasures
we have for centuries together !Our precious cultural treasures have
withstood for centuries inspite of our ignorance and negligence -thats their power .
Having known these facts ,we should keep our house clean .We should prevent
our culture getting damaged by external infleunces and so called new
-civilization inputs from the outside world.Well ,i thought on these
lines and Thiruvasagam project was born !"
This project is a journey that continued for four years -But the
actual work(composition ) was done in just 12 days .During those 12
days ,i used to start writing music from 4 in the morning to 10 30 in
the night .The day on which i completed writing the score was the guru
Poornima day of Manikka Vasagar ( who wrote thiruvasagam) -Thanks to
God ,thanks to his blessings !
<Question >Film Music ,Thiruvasagam music - which one gives you the
soulful satisfaction ? <Questions>
<Answer> Both appears to be the same .I have done Thiruvasagam kind of
music in films and vice versa.You perceive the difference .It appears
the same for me .Like the breeze is the same everywhere <Answer>
<Question >What attracted you to Thiruvasagam so much ? <Question>
<Answer>As the snow melts and disappears when sunshine pours in , a
man's lower form of ego ,selfishness flies away when he reads
Thiruvasagam.A person of the stature of Manikka Vasagar ,who has
realized god and is always in union with god ,describes himself as a
person 'who is inferior to dog ' and he surrenders to god.When you
read this in our wonderful tamizh language ,you are shaken by the
humility and you are moved to tears -It will be surprising if one is
not attracted to this wonderful treasure! <Answer>
<Question >How did you turn your mind towards god ,when your youth was
spent in Communist meetings ? ( as a musician )<Question>
<Answer>I don't have to search anything now .Having known where is
'God' .what is there to search now ?People search only those things
that they don't have !God has blessed me with its unique gift of music
to immerse in the 7 swaras of music and compose music for others ! It
is a blessing from god that i will be immersed in it and forget
everything else! <Answer>
<Question >How was the expereince of working with musicians of other
countries ?(like hungary ,US ) <Questions>
<Answer>This is not the first time that iam working with them .But
this project has one primary difference-thiruvasagam is a
treasure that represents Indian culture -I have to make them feel the
Indian culture in thiruvasagam and they have to work with me having
understood its importance and essence .Tamil Maiyaam decided that they
will use world class technicians for this project.The sound
engineering was done by Five Time grammy award winner Mr.Richard King
and the orchestra was conducted by world famous conductor Mr.Laslo
Kovacs.He (Laso Kovacs) commented that i write notes in such a speed
that this ( speed of writing notes) will find a place in Guinnes book
of world records !I was concerned that they might play without
understanding the beauty of this treaure(Thiruvasagam) .But ,everybody
performed wonderfully .I was happy when they said " We never knew that
such a treasure exists in India "
<Question > How was the experience of working with a christian priest
( Fr.Jegath Gasper ) for composing a symphony for hindu literature ?
<Question>
<Answer> This musical form which is used in this project is not of
'symphony' type .This form is called 'Oratorio' .perhaps ,this is the
first time in India that a musical piece of this form is coming.But we used a full fledged orchestra for this and hence
they started calling this as symphony.I was involved in this project
for the past five years .Well ,this project required good financial
backup .And my nature did not allow me to sell this commercially .Some
people approached me with some commercial gains in mind and hence the
delay ( as i don't prefer that ) .
Catholic Father has huge intrest in Tamizh Literature and devotional
respect for Thiruvasagam. By chance ,i mentioned to him about this
idea -Its divine play that who says what and who does what !After he
was ready to manage the project financially ,the one thought that
flashed in my mind " God is above all religions ' !
<Question >Do you have any plans to compose for any other tamizh
literature works ? <Question>
<Answer>(Gives an example) Thiruvalluvar did not pre plan to write
Thiru Kurral.It just happened naturally ,without any conscious
effort.This is how any good work will come .I don't carry a list of
'to-do' items and then execute it.To be open ,this format of music (
in which Thiruvasagam is composed) is new to you .When i first read
Thiruvasagam ,i did'nt read it literally -instead ,thiruvasagam verses
appeared to me in a musical form that you are going to hear in this !
<Answer>
<Question > After you ,so many peopel from the current generation have
come to the cine music field !-What do you think about that ? <Questions>
<Answer>Its a good thing ! Whetever passion i have for music is from
my (music ) ancestors .With no conscious effort ,quite naturally ,my
veins are filled with the music of Pavalar Vardha Rajan ( his late
brother ). I appear tall if i stand on the shoulders of my
ancestors.If they keep me down ,iam just as like anybody .Like an
illayraaja came from Pavalar ,a Yuvan Shankar Raaja from Illayraaja !
<Answer>
Illayaraaja's Thiruvasagam is going to get released in the 'Music
Academy' on Jun 30 rd th .Raaja says that 'This is the penance of my
life .My dream '
Well ,for us it is a boon !
Mumbai Ramki, thanks for posting the interview
Pl. visit www,tis-usa.com for a special call for volunteers for USA Launch!
We need dedicated people from every major city,
Please help us!
With your help we will besetting an unique record in the world wherein the entire project has been funded, marketed and made into a successful one just by common people like us!
Please, one last time!
YIA!!
This is the appeal. YIA!!
"Dear Friends,
On behalf of the TiS-USA team and Tamil Maiyam I would like to thank
you for
your patient and continuing support of the 'Thiruvasakam by
Ilaiyaraaja' project.
Here is an opportunity for you to be further involved in this historic
project. At this
time we are seeking volunteers who can act as the primary
sales/distribution
contact for 'Thiruvasakam by Ilaiyaraaja' in their local cities
starting July 2.
As you may now by know, 'Thiruvasakam by Ilaiyaraaja' will be
officially released
in the USA on July 2, at the Annual Tamil Convention to be held in
Dallas, Texas
(http://www.natt.us/). For the benefit of all the eager fans in the US
and Canada,
the TiS-USA team is planning to ensure that the CDs are available in as
many
cities during the same weekend (July 2-4).
We will initially be releasing the special edition CD package
containing the audio CD,
a 25 minute DVD on the making of 'Thiruvasakam by Ilaiyaraaja', a Hymn
book hand
written by Shri Ilaiyaraaja and a small booklet with an article by
Shri Ilaiyaraaja and comments by celebrities. Each special edition CD
will cost $20.
There will be an extra special edition which includes all of the above but the CD is an 'IIR autographed" one, the cost of which will be $50.
If you can sell more than 10 CDs in your local area please get in
touch with us ASAP by replying to this email or calling me (Dr. Sankar
Kumar) at 413-3913. An advance
payment in full for the first 10 CDs ($200 or 500) and $10/$25 for each
additional CD is suggested.
However even if you cannot make an advance payment we encourage you to
send
us an email. For smaller orders we will also be setting up a page to
accept credit card
payments on our website (http://www.tis-usa.com) by the end of next
week (June 16).
We will be eagerly looking forward to a positive response from you to
this call for
volunteers. Your participation at this moment is crucial to the
success of this project.
Sincerely,
Dr. Sankar Kumar
(for TiS-USA team)
919-413-3913
tisusa@gmail.com"
Hi All,
I am surprised about TiO has been released. Also the sales of TiO by Mastreo has been started in online.
http://www.dvdunlimitedonline.com/sh...d176e07d22c420
It is priced at near 12 USD.
it is $20 per special edition CD...
how come it is already released? Or is it something like a pre-order?
Anticipating the Cd release as of April 14th, our friend in NJ, 'DVDonline' has set up that pre-order page in his website! The price he had quoted is with a disclaimer if you notice. Anyhow, we will be talking to him to change that with the new format. Pl. bear with us for this confusion. Thanks.
And, as 'Vijay had rightly said, the price is $20 & $50 for the special edition packages respectively as noted.[plain and autographed] We are trying to get CD only offer also for $15 and will let you know in a day or two.
YIA!!
This is the Disclaimer on DVDonline:
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PRICE AND AVAILABILITY
Please note that this product is expected to release on Jun 30th in India. It is expected that this product will be available widely in USA by July 15th. Availability and subsequent release of this product is subject to change.
Price of this product is also subject to change. Any changes to the price will be notified prior to processing your transaction.
The price of this product is expected to be lower than the listed Price. If the price lower, your pre-order price will also be lowered.
yesterday i talk to the folks in dvdonline and they said they are not sure whats going on with TIS, specially after the deal moved from Saregama (where dvdonline has closer relationship,so better price) to unknown company. they said there wont be any profit in dealing with "TIS" but he is doing because of personal interest as an IR fan. I placed order with them for the DVD version in his store and he mentioned taht the price would be whatever the price TIS-USA decides.
As said earlier, 'kbee' is our well-wisher and has no malicious intentions. I have talked to him already and we will bw working together to make sure all those interested to have the CD on the release date are satisfied adequately.
Let us now focus on how to get this across throughout the US and set up a solid structure by 25th of this month to ensure proper distribution.
YIA!!
I was hoping that fellow friends from other states will join here, but it seems no one is interested. Please help TIS-USA in making this project a huge sucess, the success of this project is key to the forth coming projects.
TISK
If this is not the right forum for USA based folks, then please try some other alternate forums. For e.g. we have a yahoo group for NJ tamil people, so there must be some similar groups available.
TISK, I am trying to get my kansas friends who are BIG TIME IR fans, to volunteer. Will confirm in a day or two.
Thank you, 'njv', for your kind words. I am contacting thru other sources also and am getting very good feedback. as of now, more than 30 major cities in USA have people set for the release on the 30th! That need not stop others from volunteering! The more, the merrier!
Raleigh, Cary, Durrham, Charlotte[NC] Columbia[SC] Orlando[FL], Atlanta[GA], Richmond[VA] Washington D.C., Baltimore[ML], NJ[3], NY[2], Austin, Dallas, and one more city in Tx, Minnesota, sakatoon, SanDiego, Seatle, Omaha[NB], Connnecticut, Cleveland[OH] Phoenix[AZ] are some of the cities people have volunteered so far!
People from other cities or from the above too, please come and join us in this historic journey!
YIA!!
Thiruvaasagam renamed to 'Thiruvaasagam- a classical crossover'
over a lakh units to be released :)
http://www.dinamani.com/Cinema/CineI...tle=%F9Nn%A7Ls
There was an article (interview with IR) in last week's edition of Ananda Vikatan. The interview was interesting with crisp answers from IR. Can't seem to wait till June 30th!!
Chennai Online door delivers TIS with 10% discount!!!!
Source:
http://www.chennaionline.com/music/d...iruvasagam.asp
Thiruvasakam by Ilaiyaraaja
Thiruvasagam by Ilaiyaraaja will be released on June 30, 2005 in a grand event to be held at the Music Academy, Chennai.
Thiruvasakam by Ilaiyaraaja is an unique attempt to present select verses from Thiruvasakam in a musical form, synthesising ideas from both the Indian and Western classical traditions. The main objective of this project is to bring masterpieces from India's spiritual traditions, such as the Thiruvasakam, to the attention of the younger generation.
Thiruvasakam was written in 7th century in Tamil by Saint Manickavasakar praising God and is considered one of the greatest spiritual literary works ever written. The core of this sacred text is the message of universal oneness that God is one.
Maestro Ilaiyaraaja leads the high-profile team of artists and engineers, which includes the Budapest Symphony Orchestra conducted by Laszlo Kovacs, Oscar award winning lyricist Stephen Schwartz (of Pocahontas, The Prince of Egypt) and Richard King a five-time Grammy Award-winning sound engineer (including that of the Oscar award winning Crouching Tiger - Hidden dragon)
Please visit the official websites http://www.tis-usa.com/, http://www.tamilmm.com/tis.html.
You can also place your orders either here or here http://dvdunlimitedonline.com/shop/p...oducts_id=2402
Stephen Scwartz on TbI : "It's unlike anything I've ever heard before, a stunning blend of Indian and
western music and instruments.... I can promise you with confidence
you are in for a major treat when you hear Thiruvasakam in Symphony."
NOV, that's a great announcement and I'm 100% sure that TFM-DF had a big role in the whole project! Not necessarily with this specific thread or the contributions of DF'er to this venture in particular, but the whole movement with this site (the undisputed pioneer and probably the leader in TFM related web activity), I believe, is a catalyst for admirers of IR to encourage him for this and similar projects for the future...
Adhukku TFM-DF collar'ai thookki vittukkalAm:-)
I FULLY ENDORSE 'APP-ENGINE'S COMMENTS AND OUR SINCERE THANKS TO TFM-PAGE FOR THEIR VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION IN THIS MEGA PROJECT.
BTW, 'CHENNAIONLINE' HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US ORDERS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
YIA!!
TISK,
Could you host 3-4 preview tracks (30 secs) on official TIS sites? That'd waft off any apprehension to a common listener or a non-IR devotee.
Honestly, I wanted to listen TIS on Raaga and then buy, but now I've made up my mind and would buy the CD on the day of its release.
I believe these preview clips would be a good sales booster.
I am awaiting permission from TM/IIR for this. Will do it asap.
I urge everyone not to hear this in your computer or like this for the first time.
PLEASE hear THIS in A very GOOD sound SYSTEM at THE first TIME to FEEL the EFFECT on YOU!!!!
YIA!!
TISK sir ,
I think we better request all raaga ,musicindiaonline not to have the songs online atleast for the first one month ( To be realastic )
This is a major threat - I can write to few of these guys ...
Dear MR,
Pl. do! That will be a great help. We have also done it but if more people request, it will make an impact. Let others also do the same.
Thanks.
YIA!!
Dear friends,
Our penance has ended and I am pleased to share with you all that the much-awaited album of our generation, THIRUVASAKAM BY ILAIYARAAJA is scheduled to release on the 30th of June worldwide. I take this opportunity to request you to do whatever possible to make this a historic event.
First of all, I want you to purchase an album for your personal use and buy a few more as a gift item for the rest of the year.
Secondly, inform your friends and family and encourage them to buy for themselves.
Share this information to your favorite internet groups you are involved with.
If you want to play a more active role, please come forward to be a voluntary distributor in your city or state and help us to sell this. You may contact the local Tamil sangam, grocery stores and temples and give them your contact name and address for them to contact for their requirements. If interested, feel free to contact me as soon as possible, as we have only a few days to set this all up.
Write to the ‘regularly down-loading sites’ like raga.com, google etc and request them not to post this album for at least a month, if possible. We have written to them but if more people write then, it will have a better impact, we believe.
As a lover of music, Tamil and our Maestro, I hope that you will do these to make this album a grand success.
Please visit our website www.tis-usa.com by Saturday [18th June] for information as to how you may place your online orders and other related information.
Thanking you and expecting your favorable reply,
Anbudan,
Sankarkumar
919-413-3913
919-460-9430
yellaam iRaivan aruL
Just curious to know..
TIS was made with the donations from IR fans and well wishers..
Who financed the symphony of IR for RPH ?
I wonder if that had also been done like TIS from public money, IR would have got some commitment to release it..
sujatha reviews TIS ( TIO). - very nice one. :D
http://www.vikatan.com/av/2005/jun/26062005/av0803.asp
After listening to TIS please send ur wishes to IR at ijaja2005@yahoo.co.in
Does anyone have Mr. Sujatha's mail id? Urgent please.
YIA!!
TISK, have you confirmed whether it is OK to order from dvdunlimitedonline.com? I had placed an order here
http://dvdunlimitedonline.com/shop/p...bf6ae04e475a13
TISK,
Check your PM.
Raja_fan
It was not done for public money .RPO invited raaja for a symphony .It was not released for reasons not known to public .There is a lot of differences between teh first and the second one .The second symphony ( though technically in correct ) is a dhavam for raaja and in my personal opinion is multi-dimensional .Second symphony (TIS) is very special for many reasons ,which have been discussed in this forum .
To my knowledge ,an audio company cheated raaja on this- This may or may not be true !I got this reply from one of musicians who work with raaja !