"I found this scene very grating" - Why?
Shrinks: What's with the west and "analysts"? Or is it just Woody? Or just the upper class?
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"I found this scene very grating" - Why?
Shrinks: What's with the west and "analysts"? Or is it just Woody? Or just the upper class?
So loud & uninteresting altercation, devoid of humor. A bit much of a parlor trick (keeping the patient waiting), that even the worst sitcoms on TV resort to. Adding a laughter track(although I really hate) might have enhanced the scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
Also the sheer irony of casting, the lady is far more attractive on a relative scale to WA, that one contemplates the possibility of him being able to get her patients* to bed. And having WA to treat in utmost condescending way, again. Old jokes, atheism, morality, blah blah being infused into this. You go 'not again'. You don't usually go 'not again' because he infuses them in far more arresting sentence/conversations than in the scene here. Maybe it's also the sheer loudness of the scene that took away the effect.
Just the upper class. But then again even dentists appear like Shrinks in WA's films.
* - now supposing for the fact that the patient is a bipolar or manic depressed (information of specific kind), old or young, attractive or not attractive,, that'd make for a better effect. It'd be much more effective if that information were provided to us. But for a film like DH, with a fabric that's constantly between the lines of reality-fiction-dream, we'd have to fill, I suppose. So it does work for narrative purpose, but the scene itself was grating & the jokes weren't evocative. Maybe it's WA being provocative, it really felt like it was made my a man who pulled his finger out of his arse & stuck the fat middle one right back at the world. Letting others into the whole ' deconstruction' of Woody, uh sorry, harry.
The only time Woody was present at the oscars. Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpwF6fbLFw4
Thanks Nerd for the video. Yes, hilarious. :D Only through Woody Allen, I started loving New York. Great city and great people!
Robert De Niro, Scorsese, Al Pacino, Denzel Washington ...the list grows!Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Absolutely! Always, any film set in NY city interests me a lot, just because the first film I enjoyed thoroughly watching after I landed in CT, was Annie Hall. That was through my roomie who was elder to me and had a lot of passion towards 70's NY films like Annie Hall, Manhattan, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and so on. Through Woody and other torch bearers, I started to know about NY. Every week he used to introduce me films like this (from library) and every 15 days, I never missed going to NY (through that memorable train ride). It continued atleast for six months till my family arrived. The affection towards NY and its people is beyond any comparison. The road side shops and restaurants, watching manhattan from other side of the river, just felt I was at home in Mumbai. All because of these great visionaries!
crimes and misdemeanors
ennayya.... aesthetic'nu chonninga... atheistic'a poyidichu....
pongayya... ungala ellaam nambi oru padam kooda paakka mudiyaadhu...
Alice - I watch it every time it is on MGM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
The scene where he undresses her when she is talking about her kids' reaction to mother Teresa, the chinese doctor, the ending with the v-o gossips and the easy dips into surrealism - invisibility, Alec Baldwin, confessional in front of her house, the sister (when I saw so you wardrobe, that was too much for me - said with so much earnestness that you totally totally see her point. vERa eppadi solla mudiyin?!). Exland.
I admit ESILY has some slow parts - but overall it is quite impressive. The very relationship of Woody's character to Mia Farrow and Alan Alda - the situation itself is funny. And many like that. The dance, musical, Parisian ending - lightA emotionalAvE irukkum.
Stardust Memories - :shock: enna viLayAdreenga. One of his best.
Grating-A. Great-nu vENaa sollalaam.Quote:
Originally Posted by k_g
idhukku mEla indha aaLai padikkiRadhE waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenan
He does not get Woody. He does not get the turmoils of an approbation seeking, solipsistic, superiority-complex infused, insecure man with epicurean ambitions- even if only for differentiation and muddled without directions, unweighed by scruples.
Have I spoken too much :roll:
B(K), have you seen the analyst in 'Anything Else'. He's just impossibly funny.
Groucho, have you seen 'Don't Drink the Water' ?
It is like his early films, like a film version of the kind of prose he writes in the NewYorker.
Absurdity, slapstick, one-liners - you name it.
Woody and family are stuck in the US embassy in a communist country, where they seek refuge after they are suspected to be spies by the local police.
Woody is a Newark caterer who hates the European cuisine of the chef and Arab emir entourage who is camping at the embassy. There is a priest who has been in asylum in the embassy for 6 years (who loves to show magic tricks but completely sucks). Embassy headed by a bungling Michael J Fox.
The ending is just outrageous.
Woody is given a gun and his personality changes. He gets all serious, full of self-confidence and practices some trigger-happy moves. :rotfl:
The under secretary is hit on the head by a brick and starts thinking his both the Wright brothers. Don't even ask :lol:
He picks up a bomb
softie, crimes paththi unga karuththukaLai sollavum.
Watched the scene again now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
ennavO pOnga.
A psychoanalyst saying: this is bullshit, "no you can't explain", "don't you try to play, blame the victim",
"Okay, if you're telling me you're settling I accept that" :rotfl2:
I mean he is totally logical - I am merely explaining to you why my choice of necessity is confined to your practice :lol:
The frustration of not being able to hurt him, make him repent - simply because he is on a different plane - who can make up such kind of stuff I say!
The very idea of an analyst - how can anyone advise anyone. What does anyone know?
The very idea of an artist - how can anyone writer about life and people . What does anyone know?
How is anyone qualified to advise? How is anyone qualified to create art?
What is it about art and relationships? That you bare your deepest to someone.
Remember Manhattan - his problems with Streep's book is she is going to reveal the quirks of their relationship.
Speaking about one's deepest problems to a stranger is what psychoanalysis is.
Here he sleeps with her patient. In ESILY his daughter listens and feeds him information about Julia Roberts. It's all the same Mr.Sivam.
Woody :clap:
I mean the gay abandon with which he throws in an editing blooper in the middle of that scene
ennangadA film, medium, making - I thumb my nose at you 'nRa maadhiri :lol:
The opening scene. The brilliant brilliant Judy Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eOr08Cefpc4
Outrageously funny and at the same time very ....pertinent 'ngraar saar.
Everyone' misery - you even caused the misery - mix your f'ing alchemy and turn it into gold
Artist 'Oda predicament exaggerated for effect.
I mean he walks away from her when she threatens suicide saying, "it's not in you. Jane is the dramatic one. The solo violinist".
Oru artistic typification, reduction influencing how one views human-beings. :bow:
So whose life are you exploiting today?
You'll be very happy to (know).. <cut away by an editing jump> :lol:
en idhayaththil...
Of course, I got the very idea of an analyst saying that stuff is meta- as I said in that post. But it didn't come off as funny (even when you put :rotfl2: emoticons next to it), and it IS condescending to write characters like that analyst. I don't mind the condescension if it's meta- or funny. It didn't come off as funny, but it's meta-. I thought I was clear in that post. The casting, acting, dialogue delivery, the volume levels, the shot making, editing, etc didn't really sit well. And the sitcom parlor trick. OF course the whole film is littered with condescension of casting, continuity, editing, filmmaking & shot locations, I refuse to believe it's all too intelligent or meta- but it came off well.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
This kind of expletive-heavy scene must only be a consequence of divorce.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
This scene works precisely because of Judy Davis. Woody is rather weak, but his screen history sort of registers him funny. That we forgive his usual ticks like 'what are you telling me', 'oh give me a break'.
That's one of the few redeeming moments. But generally not one of his best, it's a nice little TV movie to collect his paycheck.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
I don't think it's decided that his 'early funny ones' outscore his 'serious' work. But I sort of get Groucho's general problem with Woody's later work.
Oho :-|Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
I find it funny every time.
Clear only. But I was emphasizing it again as it was one of the reasons I found the humour working even on repeat viewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
btw you mean condescending to analysts, right?
Hmm... all if it worked for me. Particularly the shot making.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
Agree. A fun, one time watch. I found myself in splits.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-glove
It took some time to take off. But I don't think it is a movie which needed redeeming moments.
"That's a stove? I've been mailing letters in it all week"
Woody attacking the chef
The milk pouring through the sleeve of the priest
The priest walking into the room unable to get out of the staitjacket at the exact moment when Woody is giving a piece of his mind to the emir
The emir being pushed down the stairs - its as predictable a slapstick moment as it gets with absolutely nothing more to it, but is still funny
Woody and his wife (the girl who comes in Radio days) goofing up the names - the least of the things they could have handled, in their 'assumed personality'
"..and I am his lovely wife" :lol:
Gagfest.
Celebrity script not available online? Not there on Script-o-rama.
It is a lazy film but I quite liked it. Was looking for the midnight lines that Ken Branagh tells Winona Ryder. I remember finding them quite romantic. Can't find the lines.
Yikes, I didn't see your query, P_R. Of course, I love it. As you guys indicate, it was indeed his earlier work (was a feature movie first but without Woody). "Recent" stuff like this, Deconstructing Harry and even Small Time Crook makes me miss his earlier work.
I've watched Celebrity on big screen. It was screened in a special theatre in Singapore that screens "Restricted (Artistic)" movies, meaning they allow TA stuff there. It was there I realise how awesome Leo is when he is playing himself. He has, ever since. Branagh is probably the best Woody imitator if you called that imitating rather than acting. Good stuff, but one time vonly.
He goes to a school reunion. Finds himself looking the youngest. Everyone looks like they have their accomplishments behind them. He feels he has still not found his feet - time running out on such things. Even feels he probably looks older to his classmates. Does not have youth on his side as much as he thinks. Comes back to promptly end things with his wife. His excesses and indiscretions we come to know of, don't bother us (me). His predicament (?) is engaging.
And then the woman who cared and nurtured him in worst moment - he has to give the bad news to her at a dramatic time. It brings out the side of her he has (we have) never seen. The maternal creature is not to be seen. And there goes the novel (misery turned into gold-dust? Even a reversal of Alvy quoting Balzac: there goes another novel).
The previous night he talks to Winona (the lines I am searching for) he talks about knowing her with the conviction of one who created her. She is the one in his previous books he says. The romantic imagination of having anticipated her, the illusion of having created her (the thrill of perfect understanding that the counterpart can thus anticipate) are brought out well.
Couldn't help thinking of two quotes. One the waeldfamous one by Clementine in ESoTSM
Clementine: too many guys think I am a concept or I complete them...
And Inception....
Mal: I'm the only thing you do believe in anymore.
Cobb: I wish. I wish more than anything. But I can't imagine you with all your complexity, all your perfection, all your imperfection. Look at you. You are just a shade of my real wife. You're the best I can do; but I'm sorry, you are just not good enough.
Also Winona Ryder mEla andha kaalathulayE oru idhu :mrgreen:
So when she reacts the way she does in that scene, lightA emotion aayittEn.
Apparently she should have done Melinda and Melinda - which again is another lovely film despite Well Ferrel, incorrigibly lazy ending.
Same film, problems of course - pazham dhaaNdi periya vishayam.
Stumbled on this. Woody already propecising that folks won't take him seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi_95...eature=related
Before PR's post on S & L, might I add that Samantha Morton's performance is one of the greatest perfs last century, and more of an achievement than any of L'Artiste. Penn is brilliant too.
Based on Harpo Marx, right?
Yight.
Sweet and Lowdown
Woody makes me likes the films that I am wired to hate.
Music - who me?
Superficial characterization
Half baked character developments
Following the life and quirks of a character who half-delivers on the 'interesting-ness' promise
'I get it, will you move on' level repetition of quirks, lines
A few throwaway good moments do not a movie make
Sudden gag-scenes, enjoyable standalone, but whose feel has nothing to do with that of the rest of the movie
If any other filmmaker who dared put up such an offering - I'd've roundly questioned his right to be continue in the business.
I'd alternate between annoyance of wasting time on a film I didn't "get" and the self-pity of not being able to 'get' them.
But I liked this one.
And it's not like anything has changed. I am likely to react the same way when I see such a movie by someone else.
But this one, I liked.
Isn't the film about the very difficulty of 'characterizing' the artist? Especially an Artist who is a lousy prick, & as emotional reclusive as Emmet. "Emmet is an artist and because he's an artist he needs no one", isn't the film about that 'lack of connection'? Samantha's character functions as that 'connection', standing in for the audience, who have one-way connection with the Emmet, deriving pleasure from his work but the latter refutes to seek approval or meaningful exchange. Especially an Artist who is as gifted as Emmet, second only to Django..
I like both his pseudo-documentary work, Zelig & this..
Yes it is as all that.
I am saying, with any other director I'd've been like: "big deal. Make it engaging. Don't assume I'm interested etc."
So half the time I was conscious about feeling: "oh so this how people feel about those movies which I wonder how people can like" :lol:
I hate you for that, but you know that already.
Another Woman
Good. Lazy fellow. Konjam tight-A ezhudhi irukkalaam.
paraalla.
Husbands and Wives - How does he do it every single time? I mean writing such awesome characters and more importantly such superb lines. Loved the film.
Was kind of impatient towards the end. And the handheld camera was so jarring. May be he wanted us to be in the middle of things. Sooperappu :clap:
:clap: Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
B(K) - 'same film'nu complain paNNuveengaLE, see my maaple talends. eppadi rasikkiRaar paarunga.
Return of Judy Davis-Woody together :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIbYqxqtP38
P.Cruz as a prostitute, great casting.
Long wait. When release ?
Lazy bum writing is obvious already. Only one who seems capable of telling such stories, creating cud-cheworthy moments nRadha can hardly wait
Play it again, Sam!
This has to be the funniest Allen film (he did not direct it though). Slapstick-layum piNNraanyaa. Wickedly/Insanely/Incredibly funny film. Has lots of typical woody moments too but not as heavy in substance as his other acclaimed films. A film not to be missed. Was laughing like a maniac in many scenes.
Saw To Rome with Love trailer when I watched that pathetic Marigold film. June 22 it seems, my first Allen film on big screen :redjump:
:clap:
The 'wrong' signals from the nympho ellAm :rotfl:
And of course, this ATG moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o
Marigold??Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Trying to impress in the first meeting
Girl: A bourbon man
Woody: I gotta cut down on my drinking...I put away a quart a day
:rotfl:
oru Onaayaa irundhu paarthaa dhaan...