Somewhere along I remember reading about growing skin! Perhaps that is what the majority of the people are doing and want me to do also! :huh:
ஆடை இல்லா ஊரில் கோவணம் கட்டியவன் கோமாளி!
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Somewhere along I remember reading about growing skin! Perhaps that is what the majority of the people are doing and want me to do also! :huh:
ஆடை இல்லா ஊரில் கோவணம் கட்டியவன் கோமாளி!
Another sign of the modern world's malady: ennui! Too lazy and bored to get 'involved'!!!! Why such an ado about sex discipline and human reationship ethics? Lucky am I not to have yet been engulfed by ennui! :rotfl3:
This is impressive answer. So I can proud about India Culture :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
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Originally Posted by Badri
(sic)
Calvin: You know what Dad did the other day
Hobbes: what ?
Calvin: He bought a book and paid for it in cash
Hobbes: ?
Calvin: He said he didn't want his card tracked and marketing offers sent in mail for similar books he may like
Hobbes: Your Dad's going into the future kicking and screaming, isn't he ?
And just because I enjoy throwing logs into a fire:
1. I have a question for those who believe that it is the job of parents to influence personal choices - What of those that do not have the luxury of parents?
2. Why must two sets of coda - the legal and the moral - exist? Seems like an excuse to create occupations does it not? (Priests and Lawyers)
'Sendiri mau tau lah'! In other words, suyabutthi. And since when parents could influence their children? Try asking parents of teenagers. Parents set guidelines/examples for children to follow. To say parents are influential...nah...it comes back to the children's suyabutthi. So, with parental presence or not, it's back to suyabutthi.Quote:
Originally Posted by complicateur
Legal-external deterentQuote:
Originally Posted by complicateur
Moral-deterent from within
:exactly:
An interesting article in times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7074875.ece
I wonder why the percentages are high in rural India for both men and women !!!!Quote:
The Indian Government does not provide statistics for unmarried couples cohabiting but a study by the Mumbai-based International Institute for Population Sciences last month showed that 17 per cent of young men in rural areas said that they had had premarital sex, compared with 10 per cent in urban areas.
The survey of 55,000 women and men aged 15-29 also showed that 4 per cent of women in rural areas claimed to have had premarital sex, compared with 2 per cent in the cities.
I take a big :bow: to your parents who have done well to bring you up. There seems to be hope for the younger generation. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by AudazJay
mr. logger - :lol2: for orphans, isnt the parental role taken over by guardians? Surely that must count for something. :roll:
The statistics about premarital sex is typical of India. As long as it happens under the carpet and the carpet is nice and clean it is fine.
We blame globalization for most of our ills. It is easy, isn't it ! But we fail to look at our own backyard.
Even so, this is not the first time we are touched by foreign influence. We have been in the past. Our culture adapted to that and has since evolved and it will continue evolving.
Unfortunately the real issue has been swept under the carpet yet again. The issue with AIDS and how to deal with it.
People who are going to do it will do it. The government (and Kushboo in her original interview) is/was just trying to encourage them to do it safely. There is a difference between encouraging out-of-marriage sex and encouraging people who indulge in it to do it safely.
For the record, I am not a fan of out-of-marriage sex and I will not encourage anyone to do it. But if they do it anyway, they should be encouraged to do it safely, so that the rest of the population will not be affected. I can't see anything wrong in that.
Even if it is wrong, there is nothing wrong in me thinking that my view is right and talk/write about it. It would be a shame if the SC bans me from doing so. Thank God for the verdict.
Exactly. Very well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsath
Are you sure WHAT Kushboo said EXACTLY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Badri
I am sure you do not know that!
Nobody is denying the facts like existence of premarital sex and whores and pimps in Tamilnadu.
If I remember correct, Kushboo was questioning as if "There is none who is not involved in premarital sex"!
What does the law and court know about individual feelings???
In the near future a murderer will be let go freely according to the law and court. Does that really mean the one who accused of murdering is innocent?! So, it is true the law is above all of us but the law can be blind too at times!
IIRC Khusbhoo said no educated man in TN would any longer expect his bride to be a virgin .
Now, if we want to get uber-factual and say 97.35% of the educated men marry virgin women, with a standard error of 1.45% and rail at her for saying something patently incorrect, offensive and what not.
Or one can take a couple of breaths and see that what she said was simply an expresion to emphasize "how commonplace pre-marital sex".
Good old Letter v Spirit.
To quote from a movie Hugh Grant- Sandra Bullock movie
SB: You are the most selfish person in the world
HG: That's ridiculous. You don't know all the people in the world.
Yeah, an illiterate talks about educated people's lifestyle. How can she make a correct statment?! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
Well, I am sure she is let go because she has the "freedom of speech" just like anybody! It is NOT that what she said is correct Moreover, what she said was got manipulated "on the way to the supreme court" ! :D
Your murderer analogy is misplaced. Here the crime of expressing an opinion that sits ill with many people is not a punishable offence. So it is not as if she got away with circumstantial evidence or something.
SC வரைக்கும் இந்த மாதிரி கப்பி கேஸ் எல்லாம் கொண்டு போக வேண்டியது, அப்புறம் இத்தனை ஆயிரம் வழக்குகள் தேக்கம் அப்பிடின்ன வேண்டியது.ஓய்வு பெற்ற நீதிபதி ஒருத்தரைக் கூப்பிட்டு பெஞ்சு போட்டுறுவாங்க :lol2:
In some cases, if a higher court confirms the decision of a lower court, then the appellant should be fined heavily for wasting precious time and resources of the judiciary.
You are disrespecting the judgement capabilities of illiterates. As they form a significant portion of the country you have sleighted the country as a whole. I take offense on behalf the masses. If only I weren't working late today I'd go out and burn your effigy.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
No I am not, I am questioning the judgemental capability of a art teacher on an enzyme reaction as the teacher does not know "C" "N" "P" stands for elements! No offense meant here!Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
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Originally Posted by P_R
I DO NOT say that what she did is a CRIME and that she is a criminal. I am only saying she is ignorant! And law does not make anything right or wrong! It is just set of rules set arbitrarily by may be WHITE PEOPLE!
Perhaps that was your intention, but rather than the spirit of your statement* if I stick by the letter of your statements it smacks of condescension for the toiling masses.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
* which is still offensive to art teachers !
You can read as you wish and interpret as you wish! This is a free world after all! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by P_R
I understand that you do understand that her opinion being right or wrong with her being right to express it. But I am being bull-headed and sticking to your words :Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Khushboo being let off by court does not mean she did no wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
A murderer being let off by court does not mean he is not a murderer.
The inappropriateness of the analogy is what I was pointing out.
Wish that had been said about samooga aarvalar Kushboo's statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
Why is poor Kushboo alone is an exception?Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
I think many will understand much better if Kushboo has said, Who is vegetarian these days? Everybody eats chicken, meat and goat and fish!
I am sure the law will let her go as she is NOT a CRIMINAL!
But some will get seriously offended for sure! :lol:
What are you talking about??? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by thriinone
Kushboo is the WINNER as per the LAW! :roll:
Why is she "poor kushboo"??? :lol:
மல்லாக்க படுத்துகிட்டு எச்சில் துப்பினா மார் மேலதான் விழும்!
நம்ம நாடு ரொம்ப கேவலமானது, ஒழுக்கமே கிடையாது-அன்னிக்கும் இன்னிக்கும். பொறுப்புன்னா நமக்கு என்னான்னே தெரியாது; மூலை முடுக்கு விடாம அசிங்கம் எங்க பாத்தாலும் பல்ல இளிக்குது, கல்ச்சராவது வெங்காயமாவது; அது பத்தி பேச நமக்கு என்ன யோக்கியதை இருக்கு?
பத்திரிக்கை பரபரப்புக்காக போற போக்குல வாய் புளிச்சுதோ மாங்கா புளிச்சதோன்னு ஒருத்தி பேசுனதுக்கு இத்தனை பேர் இத்தனை விதமா வக்காலத்து! இதுக்கு பேர் என்ன? வெட்கக்கேடு!
It is not my intention to push anything under the carpet! The escalating ills I see around me are too glaring to be glossed over! That makes me sad, mad, concerned. Not scornful or unmoved or uninterested- as if it is somebody else's headache! Let us first learn to react and then to act.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7074875.eceQuote:
It is unlikely, however, to change habits among most Indians, who rarely indulge in premarital sex, let alone cohabit with lovers, and usually have their spouses chosen by their parents.
The actress, who goes by the single name of Khushboo, had appealed to the court to quash more than 20 cases filed against her in 2005 after she made allegedly immoral comments in magazine interviews. She told one publication that “no educated man would expect his [bride] to be a virgin”. The comments led to outrage in parts of southern India, where she is a star of Tamil-language movies.
The judges, however, challenged lawyers acting for the complainants to produce evidence of any girl running away with a lover in response to Khushboo’s comments. “Please tell us what is the offence and under which section should she be charged? Tell me how many people have been affected by Kushboo’s statement?” asked Chief Justice K. G. Balakrishnan.
Khushboo, 39, took her fight to the Supreme Court after a court in Madras dismissed her 2008 plea for it to quash the criminal cases filed against her.
The Indian Government does not provide statistics for unmarried couples cohabiting but a study by the Mumbai-based International Institute for Population Sciences last month showed that 17 per cent of young men in rural areas said that they had had premarital sex, compared with 10 per cent in urban areas.
The survey of 55,000 women and men aged 15-29 also showed that 4 per cent of women in rural areas claimed to have had premarital sex, compared with 2 per cent in the cities.
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by P_R
தமிழ் கலாச்சார ஆர்வலர்களின் பல் இடுக்கில் சிக்கிக்கொண்டு தவிக்கிறாரே...அந்த பரிதாப உணர்ச்சி தான்... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
:rotfl: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by thriinone
பல் இடுக்கில் சிக்கிய துணுக்குகளை எடுத்தெறியாவிட்டால் அவதிதானே? வருமுன் காப்பதுதானே புத்திசாலித்தனம்?
அது எந்தக்காலத்த்தில்???Quote:
Originally Posted by thriinone
சட்டம்தான் நம்ம கடவுள்களே ப்ரிமாரிட்டல் செக்ஸ் வச்சுக்கிட்டாங்கனு சொல்லிக் காப்பாத்திருச்சே! தெரியாதா உங்களுக்கு?
நீங்க என்ன சார் இன்னும் அந்தக்காலத்திலேயே இருக்கீங்க!
பலவருடங்கள் ஆயிடுச்சு! முழிச்சுக்கோங்க சார்! :lol:
நம்ம சட்டம் வேடிக்கையானதாகிக்கிட்டுப் போகுது, கடவுள் ப்ரிமாரிட்டல் செக்ஸ் மட்டுமா வச்சுக்கிட்டாரு?
கடவுளையும் அவர் உணர்ச்சிகளையும் எப்படி மனிதர்களுக்கு சமமா இறக்கலாம்? :lol:
It is really dangerous to bring God's devine activities to justify Kushboo's statement! :lol:
And highly ridiculous! :oops:
God has done lots and lots of other things which can never be justified if Humans do that! :lol:Quote:
The judges pointed out that even the Hindu gods, Lord Krishna and Radha, were co-habiting lovers rather than man and wife. “When two adult people want to live together, what is the offence?” they said. “Living together is not an offence. Living together is a right to life.”
I am not talking about lord nithyanadha here! :lol:
I am talking about his GOds! :lol:
May be judges thought Kushboo falls in a Goddess category as there was a temple built for her! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam
:rotfl3:
thamiz, you are funny, man! :D :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz