"Vaiko's speech was awesome" - I second that ! Vaiko had done substantial homework and kinda done literature survey fit enough for a mini-theses on the origins of YAAZH, thru different civilizations!
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"Vaiko's speech was awesome" - I second that ! Vaiko had done substantial homework and kinda done literature survey fit enough for a mini-theses on the origins of YAAZH, thru different civilizations!
I totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by vem
But in Kamal's case I believe that he has been fairly consistent in his public statements with a little mellowing down happening now.If someone were to tell me that Kamal does believe in God,I wouldn't be surprised.Just read his recent interviews or even films,that strong anti-God stand does not exist( I think more than the concept of God,he was/is against idol worship,aarthi&the vibhuthi,kumkum culture) but numerolgy,Archanai for the sixth reel in temples-difficult to take in.I like AA will go by what he talks than believe stories(Sorry Madhan,no offence meant to you or your dad)
Even assuming that story to be true,it happened at the time of 'Kalyanaraman' which a late 70's film, right?I don't know what Kamal's thoughts were at that point of time.Has there been any interview,public statement by Kamal at that time where he has spoken against theism?
Anyways,you are right in saying we should leave their beliefs to themselves&concentrate on their work.
The kind of bad publicity Khaja bhai is going thro',VV still looks a doubtful starter.
Let's carry on in the VV thread&leave this to discuss just IR's new albums.
When is AOKK releasing?
Regd Kamal, I strongly believe in the following points.
1. Due to his deep personal problems.., he has now started feeling some kind of loneliness and also about some inevitable supreme power above him. This is evident from some of his interviews..
2. During the 70s or 80s..when he was establishing, he badly wanted people to forget that he is of brahmin origin..Atheism was a way for achieving that..Rajni just did the opposite and yet came to No.1 position..
Now the times are different and guys like Madhavan do not need this kind of masks..as people have now softened anti-brahmin feelings..
tmrrmt,Quote:
Originally Posted by tmrrmt
I never doubted the authenticity of your infor-source. Sorry if my words gave that impression. All i said was there might be something than meets the eye - like the producer doing all that, Kamal's belief notwithstanding. So there......
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by tmrrmt
Hmmm,Your first point might be a reason for kamal bringing down his stridency.Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
As for point no 2,good analyis.Might or might not be true.
BTW,Rajni's spiritual leanings are coming out after 90's, right? despite a 'Sri raghavendra'in the mid 80's.
Rajini is really nuts guys. He definitely has the inner peace for sometime I guess ( I could see his calmness and composure when I got a chance to talk to him for 5 minutes).
He looked like a very deep person with so much peace (which we see in great saints). But at the same time, he was smoking incessantly...... And some statements he says r just nuts.
So he is a diff extreme as Kamal is.
These are their personal beliefs and let us just leave them there. We should never start to hate or adulate them(as Rajini calls IR as Saamy ) for their beliefs ........
As long as they keep their policies personal, no problem at all. But
Sathyaraj is a famous atheist - and unlike Kamal, he has been continously hurting the sentiments of people following the religion (especially Hindus)...... He knows that he will draw flak if he insulted other religions (afterall every religion has its own beliefs). But unfortunately our own people think that he is a thinker :)) On the other hand, sages say that mind is the main reason for all our sufferings, so making the mind quiet is the main goal.....
We try to create a Mahatma whenever a person tends to be vague :)
It's both funny and sad that people like Sathyaraj and Kamal would deny the existence of God. After all, it was God who allowed them to become big names. Atheists will be atheists, I guess.
Shouldn't it be more funny for people to attribute all their achievements of tedious labor to something non-existent :?
It is a common practice for people to mudsling atheists who strongly believe in their own existence and dont credit anything to any supreme being. people tend to say that they have belief but somehow they try to hide the fact and pose as atheists...... Rubbish.
give us one good reason for people acting like that?!!
will you people do that from your heart of hearts?!! that you believe in something and pose as something else?!!
It is a very hard and trecherous path which we have to go through our lives. though we know there is nothing called GOD. the society around us keeps on insisting us to belive in their belief system. When we oppose we are mudslinged like this.....
for instance though an atheist i had to marry in a temple due to family pressure. we make compromise for the society against our beliefs. For this compromise against my wish, which had more compassion towards fellow human beings-. I was ridiculed as been made to bow before GOD. i just had my laugh over it 'Evalavu Kruramaama manasu' deriving sadistic pleasures out of another man's pain.
It pains It pains a lot being an atheist... but the belief we have that there is no god makes our life more happier than any of you believers, enriching and cherishing our existence in this purposeless universe.
Can we talk about IRs new album here, please.
Please visit this URL to see what DSP says about IR
http://idlebrain.com/news/2000march2...sriprasad.html
Good point , tmrrmt. I am not sure about the 'can and will', but if people like these talk about God or anything else, I listen. I think the human mind is capable of great things, even the owner of such a mind is awed by it and starts to attribute it to God.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmrrmt
I dont know about Kamal or Sathyaraj's personal character and other things. But even though I do believe in God, I think, I like the atheism of these accomplished people as it balances out the extreme superstition that pervades the indian life, if not necessarily the movie industry. This is for the very same reason, I like rajasaranams post here, even while he is critical of IR (even though I love IR's music).
rajasaranam ..atheism is a great concept ..but without God we have a major social engineering problem. DMK had to invent, 'kadamai, kanniyam, kattuppaadu' just for this reason. If you analyse hinduism deeply it is almost atheistic. The concept of karma, for example, has no place for 'divine intervention'. Anyways, to me atheism or theism , whatever philosophy is for the lasting happiness of all human beings , I am for it.