Sillunnu Oru Kadhal - A.R.Rahman - Vaali - Surya

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Originally Posted by MusicIsLife

Maddy,
After the initial stint in TFM, ARR did not spend that much time in TFM, he made himself available for better career projects and a national/international limelight.

You seem to say, TFM is not worth for ARR, am I reading it correct?

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no, i meant ARR was always out of place in TFM.....TFM cud have done without him......if he could have bcome a full fledged bollywood composer by 95, and if he cud have moved to London permanently in 99' , he cud have gone much higher in career.......instead he became thrishanku and got stuck, going nowhere.......MIL, it really pains me to see a composer of such caliber is not getting his due in TN and is compared to upcoming composers like u1 and HJ......infact in that rediff review, that lady says that HJ and YSR are better than ARR.......idhu ellam enga aalukku thevaye illa.......he has lowered himself by coming back to tfm....

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guess me, vaali wrote "cowboyin kan pattadhum playboyin kai thottadhum onraga sex aanadhu, onranga mix aanadhu" in 94'..... :lol: ......avar appadi dhan.....

"Sillunu Oru Kaathal" special show on Vijay TV involving A.R.Rahman, Surya, Vaali and Krishna.You can download the video here.

http://rapidshare.de/files/29467800/...ecial.wmv.html

MIL, it really pains me to see a composer of such caliber is not getting his due in TN

Maddy
Let us be realitic, If you consider any business (though Movie is an art form, baseline it is a business-> show business), bottom line is to make money, there are only a few people/production houses who could afford that kind of money/time, and there are those perfectionists and people who think different. ARR does take a big amount of time that lot of producers might not afford, hence they might turn out to others who could do the same job, if not the best atleast good. in that case U1 has been very good giving some good music, if not the best, his background scores are way improved and the songs are mesmerizing in some of the movies. If you see failure-2-success-# of films ratio, it is kind of low-2-high-high in case of U1. That might be one of the reasons why ARR has accepted less movies and production houses are involving him in select movies. It does not always correspond to caliber, it is hard to sell only one section of diversified culture that might suit a different trend/different tone in music.
This does not undermine anybodys talent, it is just situationally better suited for some of the musicians out there, but U1 stems out to be the best of the creed in TFM at least right now.

surya said in a interview that everyone is talking of sok audio that it is a hit.

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Originally Posted by baba88

surya said in a interview that everyone is talking of sok audio that it is a hit.

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appa movieyum hit than :yes:

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Originally Posted by MusicIsLife

Maddy
Let us be realitic, If you consider any business (though Movie is an art form, baseline it is a business-> show business), bottom line is to make money, there are only a few people/production houses who could afford that kind of money/time, and there are those perfectionists and people who think different. ARR does take a big amount of time that lot of producers might not afford, hence they might turn out to others who could do the same job, if not the best atleast good. in that case U1 has been very good giving some good music, if not the best, his background scores are way improved and the songs are mesmerizing in some of the movies. If you see failure-2-success-# of films ratio, it is kind of low-2-high-high in case of U1. That might be one of the reasons why ARR has accepted less movies and production houses are involving him in select movies. It does not always correspond to caliber, it is hard to sell only one section of diversified culture that might suit a different trend/different tone in music.
This does not undermine anybodys talent, it is just situationally better suited for some of the musicians out there, but U1 stems out to be the best of the creed in TFM at least right now.

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MIL, u did not get my point.......i said this bcos i think ARR's music hasnt reached/understood by many people in TN.......that's y still they place him 2nd or 3rd best in all time list........whereas the reach/popularity of ARR's music in north has been strangely terrific....he is instantly considered the only legend after RDBurman there.....

MIL, do u say that Dhoni is better than Sachin just bcos he is more important to the team now??? The comparison between a proven/tested legend and a upcoming person shuld be sensible.....u cant compare u1 and ARR on the same scales/parameters........FYI, still ARR sells more audio than YSR........YSR hasnt bought in any new trend in TFM, he hasnt cracked any sales records like ARR did with Kadhalan, he hasnt reached bollywood/international arena like ARR did in just 5 years......there's no way that ppl. can come up with statements like YSR is better than ARR or like that.......

i wonder y no one came with such statements when ARR doing gr8 and IR was going down???? i'm just vexed that y ppl. are so happy to analyse only ARR's dowtrend and disect him like this??? ARR has proved himself and he need not be compared with yet-to-prove ppl. like yuvan......that's my point......

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Originally Posted by MADDY

no, i meant ARR was always out of place in TFM.....TFM cud have done without him......if he could have bcome a full fledged bollywood composer by 95, and if he cud have moved to London permanently in 99' , he cud have gone much higher in career.......instead he became thrishanku and got stuck, going nowhere.......MIL, it really pains me to see a composer of such caliber is not getting his due in TN and is compared to upcoming composers like u1 and HJ......infact in that rediff review, that lady says that HJ and YSR are better than ARR.......idhu ellam enga aalukku thevaye illa.......he has lowered himself by coming back to tfm....

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Creatively, ARR is in an enviable place since he is famous in TFM and HFM. He can do projects like Bose, Lagaan, Swades, RDB, Meenaxi in Hindi and SOK, Boys, and KKS (to name a few) in TFM. And he has gotten the occasional international project like Bombay Dreams and WOHE. So I can understand perfectly why he doesn't leave TFM.

Besides ARR, I don't really follow any composer's career. He's the only one consistently doing interesting things with his music. I listen to most albums by SEL (Hindi), HJ, and YSR, but only like a few albums of theirs. I listen to newer IR albums out of curiousity, but this is not his era.

Maybe HFMers are grateful for ARR because before him it was people like Anu Malik and Nadeem-Shravan ruling the roost? At least in the South we had IR, but they had nobody like that up North in the 80s and early 90s.

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Originally Posted by MADDY

i wonder y no one came with such statements when ARR doing gr8 and IR was going down????

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Maddy,

i hope u r follower of ARR. then u could have read kumudham, AV magazines and tamil media's craze reviews of ARR's earlier albums. they praised ARR top most. there were hot discussions about IR vs ARR in kumudham. i still remember that discussions.

definitely the total tamil media is supported and hyped ARR.
they critisized the downfall of IR. that is the fact. i knew very well these because at that time i am great ARR fan.
IMHO, The Tamil media's initial hype only put the road for this legend's success. tamil films is the one which is identified ARR to lime light. since ARR is gem personality, he will not forget the roots.

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Originally Posted by MADDY

i wonder y no one came with such statements when ARR doing gr8 and IR was going down????

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definitely the total tamil media is supported and hyped ARR.
they critisized the downfall of IR. that is the fact. i knew very well these because at that time i am great ARR fan.
IMHO, The Tamil media's initial hype only put the road for this legend's success. tamil films is the one which is identified ARR to lime light. since ARR is gem personality, he will not forget the roots.

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vasanth, i must appreciate that u have lot of patience......

i dunno which Tamil media u r talking abt???? tamil media outrightly rejected him when he hit the scene......within 2 months of roja hit, there was a article in "maalai murasu" saying that ARR drinks too much and is always in female company and doesent respect producers.......its a well known fact that so called geniuses of tamilnadu - subbudu (god, i hate this guy like i hate pakistanis), Madan (very subtly) , Kamal hassan and many others including sathyaraj shred ARR into pieces and maintained that IR was the best thing happened to humanity.......AV even put down a gr8 album like karuthamma.........then, when ARR became a huge name in North and when he was becoming a global figure, tamil media realised that this guy is huge and forcibly stopped themselves from criticising him..........tamil media has been the most unkind to ARR......ARR made them fall at his feet with his keyboard.....now ith yuvan-power recharged they are going all out on ARR again......

Maddy,

first up of all, u should understand the basic thing like every successfull person will have +ve feedback and -ve feedback. i think u taken the -ve feedback completely and somehow u missed the +ve feedback.

the tamil media means kumudham, AV, HINDU, indian express, thina mani, some extend thina thanthi. i remember that there were many articls published in kumudham and AV about ARR . for example there was "ISAI PUYAL in Tamil Cinema" article in kumudham or AV. i forgottan. u should not take "malai murasu" seriously. single album criticizing(karuthamma) will happen 4 every MD. u didnt see any IR album criticizing? ( for "kasi" they did).

subbudu -- he is the carnatic guy who likes carnatic very much. may be in his point of view, ARR has not depth in carnatic ragas and has potential in sound effects only.
kamal -- simply he is hardcore fan of IR . he like raja style music only. not other styles. taste will differ. kamal once said that "tamil media or cinemakku venummna avar(ARR) enkernthu suttarnnu theriyama rukkalam. naan oru periya liste tharuven.".

the same thing happenning for u1 now.