IR's New albums - Ver 2008/2009

inetk,
If you understand English, and if you hold "the right to express one's opinion" high, just treat my reaction as an opinion of your opinion. As long as you write garbage, you can expect me to ignore it, rotfl at it or reply like this. Neenga paatukku ezhudhunga, naanga paatukku react panrom. Ezhudhalama vendamannu neenga mudivedunga, react panradha pathi naanga paathukkarom. :lol2:

"If you're so concerned about 'padathukku thevaya illiya' please write on Raja's compound wall about it. Why bother about others point of view?"
Ennayya aniyayam idhu? :shock:
You can write all you want in your blog and expect people to jaalra thattufy and gooja thookkufy. indha forum la vandhu unga link-a potteenga. I commented on that. Why do you bother about MY point of view sir? Neenga illadha neram paathu dhaan unga garbage-a pathi comment pannanuma indha forum-la?

P.S: Also, oru word-a quotes la podradhukku artham irukku. Ivvalavu eclectic-a irukkara neenga idha kooda purinjukkalaya?

Jalra, vayetherichal nu ellam yaara venumnaalum sollalaam saar. Copy-list la irukkara conspicuous absence-laye yaaru yaarukku jalra nu velangum :)

crajkumar_be: You win.

Well, when we fight over good music, no one wins :( So, let there be peace.

Listened to the soundtrack once. Lovely soundtrack. Very melodious. The shades of 'Sendoorapoove' are very clear to us. Which means Raja must have used it knowing it fully well :) All three songs are very touching inspite of some phrases reminding you of earlier Raja tunes. I personally like this better than the earlier Raja-Sathyan combo of 'Innate Chinta..". That album was nice but this one is definitely better. Melody rules and what more can we ask for? I go with irir123 on this album. Makes me look forward to other Raja albums this year, especially Pazhassi Raja.

Waiting for the CD to arrive in Bangalore. Will write a detailed review after a few more listens.

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

Bhagya Devata....

A disappointing recycle of "tired of hearing" IR tunes with shades of "16 vayadhinile", "Karagattakkaran" gems !

Sorry...No further hopes on Satyan-IR association :(

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:exactly: There is decline in the quality of Sathyan's movies too. Few weeks back I watched 'Innathey Chintha vishayam' and was very much disappointed as the movie had nothing to tell.
That apart Raaja has given 3 soulful & melodious tracks is a great gift leaving apart rehashing his own tunes. You have to understand that there was no point of time when Raaja was not experimenting variations of his own tunes. only the trained ears like ours can find this similarity. For others these will be fresh. So Santhosha padunga thalaivar 'Chess' game'la mathiri puthu puthu variations for the same opening/middle game kudukraarnnu nenachu, Athula thaan irukku beauty :)

IR needs someone to 'bend nimitthify' him, or else, he will continue with rehashes - thats why I wish Kamal works with him, for he is one tat brings out the very best in him

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

inetk,
If you understand English, and if you hold "the right to express one's opinion" high, just treat my reaction as an opinion of your opinion. As long as you write garbage, you can expect me to ignore it, rotfl at it or reply like this. Neenga paatukku ezhudhunga, naanga paatukku react panrom. Ezhudhalama vendamannu neenga mudivedunga, react panradha pathi naanga paathukkarom. :lol2:

"If you're so concerned about 'padathukku thevaya illiya' please write on Raja's compound wall about it. Why bother about others point of view?"
Ennayya aniyayam idhu? :shock:
You can write all you want in your blog and expect people to jaalra thattufy and gooja thookkufy. indha forum la vandhu unga link-a potteenga. I commented on that. Why do you bother about MY point of view sir? Neenga illadha neram paathu dhaan unga garbage-a pathi comment pannanuma indha forum-la?

P.S: Also, oru word-a quotes la podradhukku artham irukku. Ivvalavu eclectic-a irukkara neenga idha kooda purinjukkalaya?

Jalra, vayetherichal nu ellam yaara venumnaalum sollalaam saar. Copy-list la irukkara conspicuous absence-laye yaaru yaarukku jalra nu velangum :)

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Sensible! that even a review can be reviewed :notworthy:

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Originally Posted by irir123

IR needs someone to 'bend nimitthify' him, or else, he will continue with rehashes - thats why I wish Kamal works with him, for he is one tat brings out the very best in him

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:notthatway: script and characters are more important than anything else to inspire Raaja :) But yeah! Kamal can extract the best of Raaja even for a dud like MX is something great we should appreciate :D

I am not music savvy like some people here (including inetk-karthik among others). But somehow I have a feeling it is mainly people who are very my knowledgeable in music are failing to appreciate the music of IR. Many of these people are either very good in Indian classical music or know other current/contemporary genres of music from other parts of the world.
Let me elaborate - indian music is very much into thalam/variations. So people with this background will feel IR never gives nadai changes.
But the funny thing is IR knows indian music very well and western classical music very well. But he CHOOSES not to use certain components of either school in every case. For eg. we have a lot of tabla songs with no variations nadai changes, whereas the same IR can give changes for every line in 'shivakaru damaruga layamai naadham' in k k santhoshangal.
In a majority of the tabla songs ..the interludes are totally rhythm less with a complete WCM treatment. Even the vocals to the monotonous tabla beat are joined by quite a bit of harmony layers.
The reality is in popular music, people listen to the melody a bit and really need a rhythm to carry it. Maybe, IR probably feels he needs to take songs to a different level..many to me seem like concertos..Did he succeed here or not ..only time can tell ?
In contrast, Rahman comes in with a focus on rhythm and has reaped rich dividends in commercial success. To some extent, I get the feeling IR is not very much into rhythm, he uses it to the minimum to carry his compositions to the masses. Left alone, he probably would be composing concerto, symphonies etc influenced by his insight into indian raagams.
Not sure, I made sense, maybe rambling..somebody help me out :-)

(BTW, the post was motivated by references to "incongrous rhythm" .."outdated" rhythm etc.. note: Shankar(Ganesh) in one interview said, if you take out the rhythm, current songs are not very different from older songs..yes..rhythm is what gives "time period" and many times "ethnic" flavor as well..if you do plain melodies..like Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik..you can never tell the time period..same goes for "classical" rhythm instruments like mridhangam or even western drum kit)

Re: Bhadyadevata..listened to the song over lunch..not so positive..yes..looks like a conscious attempt to bring sendhoorpoove to the new era..not a success IMHO (BTW, similar feel was better captured in some siraichalai songs) . Somehow the melodies are not sticking to my mind..I dont think it is the language barrier..maybe I will give it more listening.
Just happened to have maalai nila from kangalum kavi paduthey and I seem to like that one for sure. Fresh melody and rhythm as well.

Jaganmohini on June 15

http://www.ragalahari.com/news/6653/...june-15th.aspx