World Cricket II

Steve :clap:

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Cricinfon Page 2[/url]]Statistics don't really count, even the one that tells you Imran averaged 19 with the ball and 50 with the bat in his final 10 years as a Test cricketer.

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:shock: Most bowlers and batsmen would kill to have one of those averages. Imran had them both at the later part of his career :notworthy:. Perhaps Imran is the best bowling all-rounder in Test cricket (Sobers being a batting all-rounder).

Batting-wise Kapil's average looks a bit modest but the main reason was he seemed to have a cavalier approach (from what I have read and heard). And Kapil would have bowled mostly in Indian pitches and that's the reason his bowling stats look a bit off, I think.

It is a pity that BBC went on strike on the day of Kapil's 175 :-(.

Still I rate Ian Botham way above Imran Khan, since no one has made such an impact on the game when Beefy was played. He is the true world class all-rounder that I've ever seen in my life. His aggressive batting matched Viv Richards (many of his hook shots without helmet is still vivid in my memory) and he has a bit of style too, his agressive bowling matched any fast bowlers of Windies as well as others at that time and he was the best fielder in slips as well as any part of the ground. In fact, his off-field activities the worst you could've ever seen in International Cricket. Had he not been addicted to drugs, we might have witnessed a only one in the history to score 10,000 test runs and 500 wickets all-rounder and 200 catches. He is a natural talent and he too played naturally with some flair.

If I've to describe him in one word, he is 'Mr.Controversy'. If I want to see anyone in action among these four, then he will be my first choice and Kapil will be the next. The next two are little bit boring and they are not entertainers (bat+bowl+field) like IT Botham and Kapil Dev. Ian and Kapil played more attacking games than the other two, who were little bit calculative and cautious in their approach.

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Originally Posted by Plum

India is just above bangla and WI in bowling averages in last 3 years in Tests

This clearly proves how much of our test record owes it solely to our great batting machine and not any other aspect

To me even saying that the batting machine is ONE of the reasons for India's ascension to #1 is deeply insulting. Or even saying that they are only 60% or 70% responsible is also insulting.
Clearly, they are the sole reason we are top.

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aahn :asku busku: ippadi oru bowling attack vache captain panni, test matches win panni, 1st place-ku kondu vandhomla :wink:

ipdi oru bowling attack vechu captain paNNi win paNNOmnu solRadhukku bowling average innum kammiyA irukkaNum

What these numbers tell us is that our bowlers, and the way they have been captained(again, not much of Dhoni's fault but certainly these bowling averages counter any claim that Dhoni did miracles with this bowling group), have given away huge runs anyway. It is our batting that has surpassed that huge opposition score and out-scored them.

Clear?

And one doesnt need stats - anecdotal evidence sliced at any point of time will support it. Take the recent test series - our bowling conceded 400+ twice. Still, our batting didnt cave in matched them, and purely due to the efforts of the batsmen, got ahead. Go back to Sri Lanka - same story

Go back to Sri Lanka India Series in India. 32/4 _ Dravid produces match saving hundred. Again, Captaincy has got nothing to do with saving that match.
And so on...

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Originally Posted by Flau

the way they have been captained(again, not much of Dhoni's fault

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appuRam edhukku soneenga :lol:

To pre-empt, despite this bowling, he captained us to victory. The point is captaining to victory would not involve such high averages

Aus vs srilanka t20. . Aus 25/2. .6 overs

Fernando catch to dismiss clarke :rotfl3:

aus 31 for 4 :rotfl2:

aus 115/7 in 18.4 overs

Abdur Razzaq slams 7 four's and 10 sixes to make 109 off 72 balls. Pakistan wins by 1 wkt and 1 ball to spare in its chase of 287.

http://www.cricinfo.com/pakistan-v-s...ch/461567.html