IR's New albums - Ver 2008/2009

Inetk, so you don't have any explanation for dating music? Naan kooda neenga periya thillalangadiya edhavadhu reason solveenganu nenachen. Mhmm... Appo unga reviewvai ennala serious-a eduthuka mudiyadhu.sollikkunga, kummi paattu padathula raja yugoslavian rhythms use pannalai adhu velaikkavadhunu sollikonga. Kalyana melathukku ketti melam vaasichirukkar raja. Oru african djambo-mjambo rhythm instrumentum, slovenialrendhu slokovic drum_um kalandhu kalyana. Melam kodutha pooris pyalraj engean indha gramathu 70ks raja engenu ezhudhikkonga.

Andha music 60ks, indha album 1805 feel, indha pooris puyalraj album futuristic feelnu ellam koluthi podunga. By your own admission of the method involved in ascribing such dates, it is difficult to take you seriously. Note: raaja musicla sila sounds 'modern'a illainu CR-e solrrar - naangallam jalra, neenga sruthi pettinu neenga feel pannina, ogay sir ogay.
Neenga nalla ezhudhunga review - atleast kaasu koduthu CD vanngareenga - ungalukku andha urimai undu. Engalukku eppoyachum sirikkanumnu thonichuna vandhu unga review padikkarom - please niruthidadheenga

Plum: I can definitely talk eloquently about musical dating, but the current music scene is such that composers use an assortment of genres with amazing creativity. Most of it is so diverse that film music has gone beyond specific dates and has entered into a mosaic of time zones and genres.

Broadly, such a dating classification may be possible, but it may fall short of being accurate - as crajkumar_be mockingly points out - due to how world'ish it has all become. Except Raja's music, perhaps - since it continues to retain an old world feel, his specific feel. Sometimes it may sound outdated to me, when specific portions of the background use a pattern similar to another Raja song I may not have enjoyed so much - or it may sound nostalgic is the pattern is similar to another Raja song I enjoyed.

My review is a point of view - as I always say. The effective way to counter a review is not to counter the reviewer, but the review itself. That is, the counterpoint is meant for the readers of the review, so they get a valid and different point of view which helps them form an (another) opinion. Reviewing the review may sound sensible to rajasaranam, but the fans here may find more value in a counter review by crajkumar_be if it points out the list of things he likes in a Raja soundtrack.

In case of Bhagyadevatha, crajkumar_be perhaps needs to say what he didn't like in the soundtrack, since I actually like it.

I don't see what is in a (any!) review to take it seriously. Do you meant to say people read a review and buy the CD. Or read one review and see a movie? I personally do not do it - reviews create the impulse to know more about the movie or CD, at least for me. But not enough impulse to act on acquiring the CD or seeing a movie. That is more of a instinctive or emotional decision affected by many other factors.

I shouldn't have used that 'jalra' word, for anybody, in this forum. That was clearly impulsive and definitely wrong. We're all fans of many composers and most of us are fans of Raja, having grown up with his music right through our formative years. Because of that association we also take the right to criticize or appreciate his music as we deem fit. I shouldn't have termed that urimai as 'jalra' - sorry.

When I wrote to crajkumar_be that he won, I really meant it. He made me realize that I was getting drawn into an argument while there is no need for one. He has the right to tear my review apart just like I had the right to review it in the first place. Fair point.

Seri seri vidunga pa. Let us not bash Inetk. Can understand his feel at times but he is a real IR fan(longest post in milliblog dedicated to him only). Anyway our own kootani is not that good as well. With the exception of a few we have bashed IR like he had failed his composing test while Inetk still maintained that IR was still middling(like yuvan). I think if ajantha had no rehashes Inetk would certainly have given ajantha a powerful review cause that was the only problem he mentioned. And i remember that he still found maayakannadi quite good while most of us here said maayakannadi was spoilt by KR's engineering and what else.

I think its best to just read and let go.

Inetk one question to ask, Have you ever tried reviewing IR's songs(especially those based on/mixing various genres). I feel that after listening to them, all the genre-based compositions nowadays dunt sound so original compared to raja's use. They sound so IRish despite all the genres we can find in them.

I agree - Raja's music, given his broad range and output, is perhaps a genre by itself.

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Originally Posted by inetk

I agree - Raja's music, given his broad range and output, is perhaps a genre by itself.

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Game, Set, Match :exactly:. I could not understand why loads of raja fans are so fanatic about his old compositions, but after listening to them can see why. He has done everything, explains why he does not seem to be bothered about film songs anymore(even if he does produce gems now and then).

இந்த மலையாள படத்தின் பாடல்களை கொஞ்சம் பயந்து கொண்டு தான் கேட்டேன். கண்டிப்பாக ஏமாத்த வில்லை ராஜா. இந்த வருடத்தின் வந்த முன்று IR படங்கள், நம்மை ஏமாற்ற வில்லை .

நமிதாவை நினைத்தால் தான் ஜகன்மோஹினி பயமுறுத்திகிறது. நமித்தாவை வைத்து இது வரை ஒரு நல்ல படம் வந்ததில்லை.

MR - as far as Jagan Mogini is concerned, think of the monkey that closes its eyes but keeps its ears open!

I actually did this several years ago, while watching a Telugu garbage titled "Ashwamedham" in Hyderabad - went ONLY for IR and the moment I realized the cast included 'handsome n trim' Balakrishna, 'miss.cosmos' Nagma, with Amrish Puri in a double-role as a villain, my eyes closed involuntarily and only IR's music (with stupendous gems "o prema", "seetha kalam" and "yen debba") made my night!

Inetk, I have no problems if you don't like raja's music and review badly. As I said you do better service to raja because you buy original CD's - I don't and whatever be the constraints, that certainly shuts me up - and you have the right to review as you see fit. But the dating formula has always baffled me - in the absence of a clear explqnation, it is also amusing to me. If there is some musicological theory to it, do explain. There's not much discussion going on here anyway.
I am not too bothered about the makeup applied to songs - that's just me ofcourse - so this aspect possibly doesn't bother me as much as you. Still, enna makeup potta raja song 'modern' soundinga irukkum and what do you imply by your dating? I'd be interested in knowing that

Inetk, I have no problems if you don't like raja's music and review badly. As I said you do better service to raja because you buy original CD's - I don't and whatever be the constraints, that certainly shuts me up - and you have the right to review as you see fit. But the dating formula has always baffled me - in the absence of a clear explqnation, it is also amusing to me. If there is some musicological theory to it, do explain. There's not much discussion going on here anyway.
I am not too bothered about the makeup applied to songs - that's just me ofcourse - so this aspect possibly doesn't bother me as much as you. Still, enna makeup potta raja song 'modern' soundinga irukkum and what do you imply by your dating? I'd be interested in knowing that