Film / Documentary - Recently watched & worthy of some discussion

Thanks guys, but these are all broad similarities, right?

That pregnancy detail actually didn't matter at all, on any level. But it does seem like the extra bit of detail was merely added to help create some kind of investment in that character being in charge of investigation. But again, it doesn't rise beyond the cosmetic touch because Uma isn't involved directly here and she's not going to be under danger. There's also the dialogue where Vijay Anthony warns Selvam how she's quite good at picking up the scent and to be wary of her..

I get the comparison with things FUBAR, but this is all generic to films of this genre. The lack of trust, incompetence and in-fights.

Again, it's about "how" it breaks out and how things go balls up. With the writer/filmmaker necessarily wanting to explore the thematic and dramatic possibilities.

Take up that dinner sequence in Fargo, that's a hugely important sequence. Here, the closest to that pivotal moment is with Selvam's trepidation that arouses her to suspect and she immediately follows up with coffee shop despite having chartered it to Selvam. But again, here lies the difference in doing it more plot based, while Fargo is more intimately tied to its gender politics. There were much more of parallels with different characters, all with thematic weight, right? Here, I believe it's the bleakness of the truth from truly ever breaking out, or being made in to a readily accessible entity, as if this is ever possible.. Nihilistic muteness of 'truth', therefore the protagonist truly deserving of being the 'hero', made it work. Now, if we were to dig out gender-based Coenesque study, we have to stretch to contrast the male characters here, & link the call girl and the pregnant cop, especially when these characters are less defined & their situations not particularly underlined in the visual/narrative level. Unlike Fargo, with both Mcdormand and William Macy's relationships etched, here we don't even know Uma's familial background. Also, we only have Vijay Anthony's manchild here. Male characters in Fargo(or BAR) are all spectral variations of the male, with inherent weakness of the gender. There's no such study in MG.

maRupadiyum
(Balu Mahendra / Revathy / nizhaLgaL Ravi / Aravindasamy / Rohini, rAsA music)

:thumbsup:

One of my great regrets is to have watched it in unimpressionable age. BR's PP with Revathi-Pandian wasn't ideal either. In fact, the period (mid-80's to early 90's with Nizhalgaal ravi, Raghuvaran and so on) got little too populated with husband stereotypes.

Years later, I got to see Arth and was impressed. Might want to revisit Marupadiyum again.

That மௌனகுரு-Fargo discussion (started off with @orupakkam and @venkiraja and I kinda barged in) was quite long. The last 3 twitlonger posts are the ones referred to here, but they may not make sense without some of the earlier tweets, so reproducing them (after putting together disjointed tweets) too here...

@orupakkam: They tried making it in Tamil as மௌனகுரு which is decent attempt. But it lacks the nuances of orig.

@venkiraja: Mounaguru has nuances of its own. Uma Riaz's character paid some tribute. Nothing more.

@equanimus: [If I may barge in] Yeah, nothing at all borrowed from Fargo. Very unfair to even say they tried making it.

@orupakkam: >Nothing at all< I beg to disagree. Lets move on :-) It is definitely not a scene-by-scene attempt. But the inspiration is glaring to ignore. If you had read Thi Ja's 'Akbar Sasthri', then you may feel Sujatha's 'Vimanam' has a striking resembl. to former

@equanimus: There's an obvious nod to Fargo with Uma Riyaz's pregnant police woman character. But what is borrowed? Mounaguru is serious throughout with a Kireedam type story with the hero's situation spiraling from bad to worse. Tonally very different from Fargo which is much more dry and deadpan. Honestly, I don't see any similarity.

@orupakkam: The parallel thread where the group of police met with the road acc. and got hold of huge cash, which triggers a series of crime and the prostitute link helps the investigation to track down shares the same pattern of story telling from the former. Though, discussing about Fargo made me think about Mounaguru, I did not mean it was a complete remake. :-)

@equanimus: But these aren't common plot points in any sense! The road accident is the start point here, the prostitute's role is much more important (in Fargo it's a mere detail!) and so on. The premise of a stash of cash, parallel threads connected etc. are Hollywood/indie cinema influences no doubt but there's no Fargo IMO.

@orupakkam: http://t.co/EsqBQSSC

@equanimus: http://t.co/QtXLc6LP

@orupakkam: http://t.co/EEupLe9H

Thanks equa. Orupakkam's reductive views are what I deeply resist.

indha discussion epdi pOyirukkunnA....

@orupakkan: Fargo remake fail #mounaguru (watches over left and right - Ahn evanum vevaram therinjavan illai. post paNNiralAm
@venkiraja: Eh? epdi?
@orupakkan:Ahn adhellAm apdi thAn ivanai samALichuralAm
@equa: may i Come in
@orupakkan: (AhA! vandhuttAnyA vandhuttAnyA ivanai samALikka mudiyAdhu surrender dhAn)
he he Let's move on...
@equa: dei, namma innum pEsavE ArambikkalaidA idhai paththi, dhukkuLLa enna move-on?

Clear case of vethu vEttu speaking above station in the firm belief that there is nobody around to question them or evne if there are, those real vevaram therinjavans are polite enough for these vetis to obfuscate and make it seem like they are talking equally to the vevarma therinjavan.

oneside is a hubber by any chance?

Plum, அப்படில்லாம் நடக்கல. Please do not presume things, and he's not around to respond to you. And in any case, I was the one who entered into the conversation (as I am generally curious about how such things gets formulated and propagated). He was just talking to someone on twitter about something.

Equa - I just foun dthe "Lets move on" even before the discussion started in real terms ,funny. And that too, the moment you entered. It seemed like throwing in the towel right away to me. Even now, reading it in sequence, it seems to me that he was making it up as he went. I can recognise the symptoms.

VantaaryA map pOduravaru :lol2: enakkum sErththu pOduyyA.