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irir123,
You have reopened an old wound :( I was one of those guys who saw the movie called 'Ashwamedham'. I think I was dragged to it by a friend of mine. I rarely venture anywhere close to 50mts of a theater which runs a Balakrishna movie. Needless to say, Balakrishna, Nagma, Amrish Puri in clownish costume and the formula oriented absolutely insensitive and idiotic direction. The definition of hell.
Plum,
I guess a review which states that the music seems to have a dated sound is fair. Nothing wrong with it. If it reminds someone of an earlier era, so be it. (For example the opening of 'Jai Ho' reminded me of R D Burman's 'Dekha Maine Dekha Hai Ek Sapna' from Love Story and I honestly felt 'Jai Ho' had a very dated feel.) I think Karthik's review probably reflects the thought pattern of many youngsters of today who may also feel that some music is not 'current'. I not saying this in a dismissive sense. I say this because I have personally seen diametrically opposite views expressed for the music of 'Uliyin Osai'. Some youngsters didn't find it great but a lot of middle aged people found it to be superb. I have had more than one person borrow the tape from me to hear the songs but my kids don't want to hear it!! The paradox is that people would enjoy the 'old dated sound' of say a Madan Mohan Lata combo but if a song with the same quality is done by someone like Raja, it can get dismissed as being 'old'. I personally don't have an issue of someone finding a song dated but if you don't enjoy the tune due to this aspect, then it is unfortunate. Again, what can be considered as dated could vary from person to person.
While I fully endorse Karthik's right to express his opinion I differ with him when he makes a statement like this, "but the current music scene is such that composers use an assortment of genres with amazing creativity." I honestly feel there is lot more cut and paste happening in the industry nowadays and it is done very intelligently. I don't see too many music directors with 'amazing creativity'. They know how to borrow and how to intelligently paste it into their composition. None of them knows how to integrate it and make that genre their own. Anyway I have deviated too much from the subject of this thread and will stop now.
My review of Bhagyadevata songs.
Swapnangal (Rahul Nambiyar and Chitra): This is a melody in the lines of 'Mellayonnu'. The start is reminiscent of some old Hindi melodies. The rhythm during the charanam is lovely with something like a hand clap added to the basic tabla beat and the violins playing some lovely counter melody. The beat is back to the synth beat once it returns to the pallavi. The second interlude has some nice violins and flute. The tune is very soulful and this is a perfect song for those who love their music in low volume late in the night with lights switched off. Chitra is lovely as usual. Rahul is OK.
Alli Poove: (Vijay Jesudas and Shweta)? : Wonderful opening the song has with the tune for the female voice dripping honey. A lovely steady beat is maintained from the pallavi into the charanam. The first interlude has some superb flute portions, which add to the beauty of the song. The surprise comes in the charanam when 'Sendoorapoove's phrase makes its appearance. It does again after one line but ends differently. The second interlude as violins playing counter melody to the keyboards. The synth bass follows the song diligently in the charanam. Inspite of, or maybe due to, the appearance of Sendoorapoove, this is a honey drenched song.
Thirathannil (Karthik): A kanda chapu Kalyani song. Very interesting. Whenever a Raja song is sung by a contestant in Idea Star Singer, Usha Uthup almost always comments about the lovely 'movement' of the song. This is one such song where the charanam has lovely movement. The Kalyani that the song paints is very charming. Karthik has done a nice job. Very soulful and touching melody.
All in all, an album to cherish. I have been hearing the songs in a loop for quite some time now and would highly recommend this to anyone. I will disagree with raja-fan who felt that Sathyan - Raja combination has nothing to give. If they give such albums in the future, I will definitely be looking forward to their combination. I also disagree with RS, who felt Sathyan's movies are not reaching great heights. All his movies are the same, aren't they :) I guess I made a mistake with 'Manasinnakare' where I thought the songs were mediocre. Now I don't and I am not making that mistake with 'Bhagyadevata' :)
A third lovely album in a row by Raja this year. (Like Ramki, I too shudder at the thought of Namitha but let us hope Raja continues with this same form.)
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Guys,
Can you please stop this war over inetk's review ?
Erkkanave indha thread bore adikka aarambichchu pala maasam aaagudhu..adhila idhu vera..
Bhagyadevata is IR-Satyan combos best work to date.The 'Senthoorapoove' feel was added to 'Allipoove' at the behest of lyricist Vayalar Sarachandra Varma since it was his all time favourite song.Producer M.M.Hamza deserves special kudos coz he was the one who wanted tabala in every song was after satyans tail to push Ayya...wonderful wonderful album...
rajaalltheway,
Thanks for breaking the 'Sendhoorapoove' mystery :) Fully agree with you. This is a lovely album and is growing on me with each passing day.
""but the current music scene is such that composers use an assortment of genres with amazing creativity."
yeah, I'd like to hear more about such composers - the word assortment is the key. Assorted biscuit packet maadhiri pola. I am just not able to buy such justifications for music. Avaru African djambo-mjambo beats-ai, Yugoslav drum vechu adichu, adhula american country guitar riffs pottu, Indonesian chorus pottu super-a assorted genre panni irukkarnu oru MD-ai ayaravadhu paarattina sirippu dhaan varudhu.
raja_fan, with due respect, this deserves to be discussed - because in the end, it will come to light that whatever these people mean as assortment, Raja has already done as integration. People just complain because he is not doing it like Yuvan maybe - just random combination of genres pottu, nalla varudha-nu QA panni paarthu release pandra type. Oh you will never get that from Raja, dear inetk. Unless you have a clear idea of what you are talking about and explain it AND WHY you think Raja lags behind the current amazing MD's on that count.
"I personally don't have an issue of someone finding a song dated but if you don't enjoy the tune due to this aspect, then it is unfortunate"
Yes, my point is the same, suresh. If I was uncharacterstically harsh on this one, then it sums up my frustration at random accusations without a sound reason on Raja. Outdated is a ridiculous word to use.
Plum,
I agree with you that there is no way that Raja can be said to 'lag behind' the current MDs. What can be said is that Raja's tastes and aesthetics are different from those of the current MDs and he is constantly experimenting without giving up on his aesthetics. Someone can say that Raja's music doesn't follow the current trend but we expect Raja to set his own trend rather than follow a trend set by others. Anyway this is a vast and highly debatable subject but all I can say is that if someone doesn't want to listen to Raja because he his 'outdated' or 'not trendy enough' the loss is theirs!! I mean, how many MDs can come up with something like Naan Kadavul or Bhagyadevata?