Someone out there who knows music please give some thoughts
on the beautiful anupallavi parts of 'swapnangal' and 'Thira' songs from Bhagyadevata.I feel the lyrics of 'swapanangal' is of high quality....
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Someone out there who knows music please give some thoughts
on the beautiful anupallavi parts of 'swapnangal' and 'Thira' songs from Bhagyadevata.I feel the lyrics of 'swapanangal' is of high quality....
I think one of the things to be kept in mind with IR is that he can be probably be called the last of the previous generation music composers and i mean it in a complimentary way. He has his own style and has developed his own sort of genre as others have pointed out here, and its just not possible for him to suddenly try to do stuff like the modern MD's.Its not going to happen if people expect him to suddenly do yuvan or Arr type sound based songs.
He will do songs within his trademark hooks and genres. Ofcourse this will sound similar to his previous works since he has done so many songs in his career so far that its almost impossible to get something totally new out of his songs now. But the fact that even after 33 years his songs both old and the new ones still excite people is ample proof that his style/genre/hook is timeless.
Coming to Bhagyadevata that charanam piece in Allipoove song is such a nostalgic teaser that it was pretty much evident that it was done deliberately. But does that pull you in or what . Sendhoorapoove song is one of the most mesmerizing compositions in IR's career.
Maybe I am a "glass half-empty" guy..doing a song modeled on a previous classic ..to me seems like an opportunity LOST to create a new classic. IR did not want to do even concerts, because the time needed to practice a song can be used to create a brand new one..now we see all these rehashes and people like who are looking for a fresh new ones are disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rprasad
I agree and am ROTFL..but sad thing is this is a reality. Novelty sells, irrespective of the context or wholeness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Coming back to inetk's point, even though I disagree with him or find his reviews not very useful to me, as a film music listener I have to say that certain IR songs do invoke a "dated" feeling in me (see my previous post on how rhythm arrangements create this feeling) . Maybe less for me than inetk. For eg, I do not consider tabla song as an anachronism. But quite a majority of IR songs are timeless classics (and obviously that is why I consider myself a IR fan). To fans like me, certain songs, like the one I was listening on my commute back home today - adhikaalai kaaRRE nillu are so mind-boggling and heart-warming that at times ..I feel like resorting to the expression .."idhai vEra entha kombanaalum panna mudiyAthu." :-) yes please listen to the chorus/harmonies in this song. To me, any number of today's top ten hits will not equal songs like this..Basically, even though IR might have done 4000 songs..the core 100-400 songs in my list make him more precious to me..maybe others do not feel that strongly and so can move on with the latest/greatest ....
Hmmm Ithukku enna solveengaQuote:
Originally Posted by kiru
Santhoshakke & Adichikko Sitteu
80'slaye athathaana senjuttu irunthaar Raaja :huh:
kiru,
I don't think the songs of Bhagyadevata are rehashes. He has used 'Sendoorapoove' alright but as rprasad said, it is used knowingly and he creates a new song even though he has used a couple of phrases from Sendoorapoove. 'Allipoove' is a new song to me and the way Sendoorapoove phrases enter and then change gives lot of joy. All the three songs are 'new classics' for me. Maybe I am a "glass half full or full-full guy" :)
Kiru, adhaan. Outdated adhellam irukkattum. Apdi enna current MD;s - hindi or tamil - apdi creativity-la poondhu velayadaranga. Indha remix generation-ku ivlo praise vera(note, I am exlcuding Rahman from this generation). When someone says "current MD's are puring amazing creativity", he better justify it. Tamil music is at it slowest ebb possibly - even in the 70's, pre-IR, even though that period is much denounced for music, we had Vijayabhaskar, V Kumar, Shyam etc, not to forget MSV producing some fine music. What is the state now? Every other film has a remix, and novelty seems to be experimenting with sounds. How can you say with a straight face that "current MD's are producing amazing cross-genre, mixed genre, blah blah"? If anyone says so , better be prepared to justify yourself
I agree with Suresh.
I liked the album a lot. I might not call it a super-classic (like Uliyin Osai) but this album is indeed a breath of fresh air. If nan kadadul and nadhalaala have their own individual dimensions of like-able factors, so does this album.
About it being dated and all.Well, it has that feel, may be because of that wonderful string section which reminds of 80s. But thats what i always loved abt IR's music and hence i dont complain.
Bottomline: I like it.
Reasons: Because it has elements which i like.
For most of the Raja fans other than inetk or Mumbai Ramki, the grouse is not on Raja vis a vis modern mds with their gizmo-techno sounds , but it is between the vintage, zestful Raja's super power creativity versus the tired and down synth Raja of today. Looks like those lovely basslines have vanished with the fine lines of age . hm.....cruel time!!!
thumburu, thats sadly the state of affairs. I am pretty sure you are aware of the limitations on the ground - the affordability of maintaining an orchestra. Even not considering that handicap, Naan Kadavul was very good. Let's see - but time is running out, 70 is approaching. After that?