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விஸ்வரூபம் படத்தில் ஒரு பாடலை கமலஹாசன் எழுத மற்ற பாடல்களை அண்ணன் வைரமுத்து எழுதி இருக்கிறார். ஆடியோ ரிலீஸ் போட்டோக்களில் அண்ணனை காணோம். ராஜா சார் வருகிறார் என்று தவிர்த்து விட்டாரா அல்லது வர முடியாத சூழ்நிலையா? யார் கண்டார்கள். அது இருக்கட்டும். இந்த வார ஆனந்த விகடனில் அண்ணன் ஒரு கேள்விக்கு பதில் சொல்லி இருக்கார் பாருங்கள்..
இதோ.. உலக மகா யோக்கியரின் பதில்.
ரங்க கோபாலன், வந்தவாசி: ''எழுத்தாளர் ஜெயகாந்தனிடம் நீங்கள் ரசிப்பது?''
வைரமுத்து: ''அவரது அறச் சீற்றம். ஒரு நாள் காலையில் என் வீட்டுத் தொலைபேசி ஒலித்தது.
'நான் ஜெயகாந்தன் பேசுகிறேன்.’
'வணக்கம்; வைரமுத்து பேசுகிறேன்.’
'என் மகள் திருமண வரவேற்புக்கு உங்கள் மண்டபம் தேவைப்படுகிறது.’
'அது உங்கள் மண்டபம்; எடுத்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள்.’
'பொன்மணி மாளிகை’ பெயரிட்டுத் திருமண அழைப்பிதழ் அச்சிட்டவர், ஓர் இசையமைப் பாளரைச் சந்தித்து அழைப்பிதழ் தந்தாராம்.
'கட்டாயம் வருகிறேன்’ என்ற உறுதிமொழி தந்து அழைப்பிதழைப் பிரித்த இசையமைப்பாளர், திருமண மண்டபத்தின் பெயரைப் பார்த்ததும் திகைத்துப்போனாராம். 'நான் அங்கு வர முடியாதே’ என்று நெளிந்தாராம்.
விசுக்கென்று எழுந்து வாசல் வரை சென்ற ஜெயகாந்தன் விறுவிறுவென்று திரும்பிவந்து, 'நீதான் திருமணத்திற்கு வரப்போவதில்லையே! உனக்கெதற்கு அழைப்பிதழ்?’ என்று அழைப் பிதழைப் பறித்துக்கொண்டு வெளியேறிவிட்டா ராம்.
இந்தச் சம்பவத்தை ஒரு நண்பரின் வாய்மொழியாக அறிந்தேன்.
கண்ணதாசன் வரியைப் பொருத்தி ஜெயகாந் தனை நினைத்துக்கொண்டேன்.
சிங்கத்தின் கால்கள் பழுதுபட்டாலும்
சீற்றம் குறைவதுண்டோ?’ ''
I think what IR did is no way comparable to what VM has done.
VM avoided Viswaroopam function because he did not want to sit with and share the dias with a man with whom he is not in good terms with. That is very much understandable. If any one of us is in that place, it would not be a surprise if we took that decision.
But to avoid a marriage (of a very close friend's family ) just because the marriage hall belongs to some one I don't like, is too much...laughable ( though it is his personal matter ).
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Originally Posted by
raja_fan
I think what IR did is no way comparable to what VM has done.
VM avoided Viswaroopam function because he did not want to sit with and share the dias with a man with whom he is not in good terms with. That is very much understandable. If any one of us is in that place, it would not be a surprise if we took that decision.
But to avoid a marriage (of a very close friend's family ) just because the marriage hall belongs to some one I don't like, is too much...laughable ( though it is his personal matter ).
Even before discussing who is right or wrong (which we can't do given the lack of full information), when somebody is asking about what he appreciates in Jayakanthan, why should he go tangentially and bring some MD and quote a personal/ controversial incident (that is assuming the incident/ version is true.:confused2:). There should really be many better ways to praise Jayakanthan than this.:roll:
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electriceel
Even before discussing who is right or wrong (which we can't do given the lack of full information), when somebody is asking about what he appreciates in Jayakanthan, why should he go tangentially and bring some MD and quote a personal/ controversial incident (that is assuming the incident/ version is true.:confused2:). There should really be many better ways to praise Jayakanthan than this.:roll:
Oh...In that case, our IR is no better than VM in dragging people indirectly.
There are significant number of instances, where IR has tried to mock VM ( not mentioning his name directly ) on stage in functions. Seru alli veesuvathu enbathu cinimaavil sahajam. So we cannot say this side or that side is better..or to say who is Ulaga maha Yoggiyar !
[ For Viswa roopam, it is Kamal hassan's mistake to involve VM and at the same time invite his "enemy" to launch the songs ! He is the producer..he has all rights..but somewhere he should be knowing what he is doing... ]
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raja_fan
[ For Viswa roopam, it is Kamal hassan's mistake to involve VM and at the same time invite his "enemy" to launch the songs ! He is the producer..he has all rights..but somewhere he should be knowing what he is doing... ]
கரெக்ட்.. கமல் கொஞ்சம் யோசிச்சிருக்கலாம்.
ராஜா சார் மட்டும் என்னவாம்? யுவனோட முதல் கல்யாணத்தை அறிவாலயத்தில் உள்ள கலைஞர் அரங்கத்தில வெச்சுட்டு, ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கு பத்திரிகை குடுத்தார். அந்த அம்மாவும் இவரை மாதிரியே தலையை சொறிஞ்சிகிட்டு, அங்க என்னால வர முடியாதேன்னு தான் சொல்லி இருப்பாங்க. அவங்க வரவும் இல்லை. இதுக்காக அவர் இதை எங்கேயும் சொல்லி காட்டலை, பத்திரிக்கையை பிடிங்கிக்கிட்டும் வரவில்லை.
இவர் இங்க கல்யாணத்தை வெச்சுட்டு அங்க கூப்பிட போனது தப்புன்னா, ஜெயகாந்தன் பண்ணதும் தப்பு தான். கமல் பண்ணதும் தப்பு தான். இவிங்க சண்டை தான் ஊருக்கே தெரியுமே?
இருந்தாலும் வைரமுத்து இதை இந்த நேரத்தில் சொல்லி காட்டி இருக்க வேண்டாம். ஜீவா மரணத்தின் போது இவர் துக்கம் விசாரிக்க போன போதே ராஜா சார் ரசிகர்கள் அவர் மீது கொண்டிருந்த காழ்ப்புனற்சிகளை குறைத்திருபார்கள். இப்போது?
எதுவானாலும், ராஜா சார்-ஜெயகாந்தன், ராஜ சார்-கமல் நட்பு நல்லபடியாக போய் கொண்டிருக்கிறது.
இந்த பாலா பரதேசி படத்துல கங்கை அமரனுக்கு ஒரு குடுத்துருக்கப்ல. ராஜ சார் வாய்ஸ் மாதிரியே இருக்கு. இது என்ன மாதிரி ட்ரிக்ன்னு தெரியலை. யாரை ஏமாத்தறதுக்கு அவர் பாடின பாட்டை விளம்பரத்துக்கும் குடுத்துருக்குகாங்க என்று தெரியவில்லை. வைரமுத்து மேடையில் நண்டு நரி கதை வேற சொல்லி உயிரை வாங்கினார், கேட்க நல்ல இருந்தது வேற விஷயம். கங்கை அமரன் வைரமுத்துவின் பேரை சொன்னதும், அவர் இவர் பெயரை சொன்னதும் மேடை நாகரீகத்திற்கு மட்டுமா இல்லை நிஜத்திலுமா?
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Raaja is doing a tamil film titled "Megha".
Singer Ramya(NSK) tweeted this: @ Prasad studios to record for raja sir's next project, megha. Will be singing 3 songs in d same movie as well. Can't wait for d release! =D
https://twitter.com/SingerRamya/stat...93258116853762
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raja_fan
Oh...In that case, our IR is no better than VM in dragging people indirectly.
There are significant number of instances, where IR has tried to mock VM ( not mentioning his name directly ) on stage in functions. Seru alli veesuvathu enbathu cinimaavil sahajam. So we cannot say this side or that side is better..or to say who is Ulaga maha Yoggiyar !
[ For Viswa roopam, it is Kamal hassan's mistake to involve VM and at the same time invite his "enemy" to launch the songs ! He is the producer..he has all rights..but somewhere he should be knowing what he is doing... ]
I was not supporting this or that person (Mr.X,Y or Z). Look at the context. All I was pointing out was, when the forum is asking a specific question to Mr. X, 'What do you like/ appreciate in Mr.Y?', launching an ad hominem attack on an unrelated Mr. Z out of the blue to make a point about Mr.Y, only badly reflects on Mr.X.
Swap X,Y,Z as you may, I still hold by that statement.:smokesmile:
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rajaramsgi
கரெக்ட்.. கமல் கொஞ்சம் யோசிச்சிருக்கலாம்.
ராஜா சார் மட்டும் என்னவாம்? யுவனோட முதல் கல்யாணத்தை அறிவாலயத்தில் உள்ள கலைஞர் அரங்கத்தில வெச்சுட்டு, ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கு பத்திரிகை குடுத்தார். அந்த அம்மாவும் இவரை மாதிரியே தலையை சொறிஞ்சிகிட்டு, அங்க என்னால வர முடியாதேன்னு தான் சொல்லி இருப்பாங்க. அவங்க வரவும் இல்லை. இதுக்காக அவர் இதை எங்கேயும் சொல்லி காட்டலை, பத்திரிக்கையை பிடிங்கிக்கிட்டும் வரவில்லை.
இவர் இங்க கல்யாணத்தை வெச்சுட்டு அங்க கூப்பிட போனது தப்புன்னா, ஜெயகாந்தன் பண்ணதும் தப்பு தான். கமல் பண்ணதும் தப்பு தான். இவிங்க சண்டை தான் ஊருக்கே தெரியுமே?
இருந்தாலும் வைரமுத்து இதை இந்த நேரத்தில் சொல்லி காட்டி இருக்க வேண்டாம். ஜீவா மரணத்தின் போது இவர் துக்கம் விசாரிக்க போன போதே ராஜா சார் ரசிகர்கள் அவர் மீது கொண்டிருந்த காழ்ப்புனற்சிகளை குறைத்திருபார்கள். இப்போது?
எதுவானாலும், ராஜா சார்-ஜெயகாந்தன், ராஜ சார்-கமல் நட்பு நல்லபடியாக போய் கொண்டிருக்கிறது.
இந்த பாலா பரதேசி படத்துல கங்கை அமரனுக்கு ஒரு குடுத்துருக்கப்ல. ராஜ சார் வாய்ஸ் மாதிரியே இருக்கு. இது என்ன மாதிரி ட்ரிக்ன்னு தெரியலை. யாரை ஏமாத்தறதுக்கு அவர் பாடின பாட்டை விளம்பரத்துக்கும் குடுத்துருக்குகாங்க என்று தெரியவில்லை. வைரமுத்து மேடையில் நண்டு நரி கதை வேற சொல்லி உயிரை வாங்கினார், கேட்க நல்ல இருந்தது வேற விஷயம். கங்கை அமரன் வைரமுத்துவின் பேரை சொன்னதும், அவர் இவர் பெயரை சொன்னதும் மேடை நாகரீகத்திற்கு மட்டுமா இல்லை நிஜத்திலுமா?
rajaramsgi,
Not able to agree with you for the following reasons. But I do not want to elongate this discussion further.
I think we are in sync, when it comes to Kamal's mistake in this case. If we were in the place of VM, we would also have avoided the function.
Regarding the comparison of IR-Jayakanthan meet with IR-Jayalalitha meet, you know this is not fair at all !
IR and Jayakanthan are thick friends while the latter (IR-Jaya) could no way be anything else other than compulsion arising out of Cinema-Politics nexus in TN. How can you compare these two ?
IR would not have really cared if Jaya attends the marriage or not. It could have been 100% a formality affair.
VM could have avoided dragging this particular incident in his interview, but this is very much usual in Tamil Cinema. When IR hit out at VM in numerous occasions, why should we not expect VM to do that ?
If what VM has said is true, Jayakanthan has every right to snatch away the invitation. Because no one can expect such flimsy reasons such as "I want to attend my best friend's family function. But the owner of the hall is an enemy to me. So I cannot come".
Did not IR and VM both attend "Ponnar Shankar" audio release ? for what ? because of their "respect" for a political leader...why can't they do it for Jayakanthan's family then ?
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VM's father in law passed away the previous day of audio release.
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Yes , Ashwin is the hero for this movie .. the composing happened when Be with Maestro was going on )
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IR's second marathi movie for the same director (director of HELLO JAI HIND):
"...Tamil Maestro Illaiyaraja collaborates again with Gajendra Ahire after Hello Jaihind. One hopes, unlike the songs in Hello Jaihind which didn’t catch the attention of people, this album becomes very popular. Raja Sir has even roped in Hungarian musicians Béla Lattmann(bass), Attila László(guitar), János Nagy(keyboards) for recording his compositions for this film..."
The song featured in this trailer is the same as the popular tamil song (only little variation in the end). Forgot the lyrics. The tune sounds fine. Not sure why the lyrics are in English. Maybe the situation! Not sure.
http://www.madaboutmoviez.com/2012/1...uring-talkies/
thanks,
Krishnan
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krish244
IR's second marathi movie for the same director (director of HELLO JAI HIND):
The song featured in this trailer is the same as the popular tamil song (only little variation in the end). Forgot the lyrics. The tune sounds fine. Not sure why the lyrics are in English. Maybe the situation! Not sure.
Krishnan
Krishnan, Sounds great. I don't see any resemblance of any tamil song on it though. Must be from telugu or kanada? The closest tune that comes to my mind is Prem Kahani's Rangu Rangu?
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Rajaramsgi,
Courtesy the catchy tune, I don't remember the lyrics of the tamil song :). I should not say, it is exactly the same tune, but a variation of the tune. What I distinctly remember is that the flute playing the main tune (probably at the beginning of the song) and then the female (if I remember it right) starts singing the main tune.
Let me try to recollect the lyrics!
thanks,
Krishnan
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rajaramsgi
Krishnan, Sounds great. I don't see any resemblance of any tamil song on it though. Must be from telugu or kanada? The closest tune that comes to my mind is Prem Kahani's Rangu Rangu?
Yes. It resembles Rangu rangu a lot.
Pray IR comes out of the "rangu..rangu.." fever. For me, I think he got "vanam mella.." of NEPV from the same mood.
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It also sounds like "Swalpa soundu jaasti maadu" from Suryakanthi....All these have a common under flavour.
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It is Pallavi Anupallavi BGM / 'Mella Mella' from Vaazhkai.
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AravindMano
It is Pallavi Anupallavi BGM / 'Mella Mella' from Vaazhkai.
Aravind, If I listen to mella mella song in youtube and then go back to the marathi trailer, i can see the connection. well spotted. thanks for sharing.
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AravindMano
It is Pallavi Anupallavi BGM / 'Mella Mella' from Vaazhkai.
Perfect. This is the song I was referring to. Thanks AravindMano!
thanks,
Krishnan
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Oh Electriceel, I just love your analogy
Regards
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NMK
That doesn;t look like a review at all and where exactly did the "reviewer" watched the movie.Not read any special premiers for NEP till today.
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It has released in Dubai Thursday afternoon
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NEPV released in Muscat on Wednesday & I watched it this evening. It’s a horribly slow movie & a mega sodhappal from GVM. I am shedding blood tears for Maestro :( He is totally wasted in the movie. There is not much BGM pieces. All the songs come one after the other & the interludes are repeated as BGM most of the times. The film moves at a snail's pace without much interesting scenes and tests the patience of the viewers. I had enough archanai from family for taking them to watch this ordeal.
Only things I noted: there is a symphonic 3rd interlude added to Vaanam Mella song & a short bit of Pengal Endral in Maestro’s voice. Otherwise, nothing much to write about :(
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Guys,
It's really sad to see the initial reviews on Nee thane en Ponvasantham--All the buildup for what ? A school life story for an English Orchestra ?
In any event, I l stopped believing GVM after I saw VTV-- his limited knowledge when Kamal goes all the way to the US to solve a murder, and touting about his Raghavan instinct--an instinct to just scour a region for a body, when the place is just behind the scene of the kidnap.
A riveting story was expected, but what was presented was a loose and illogical story.
Hope the fans like this movie as they did VTV and make this a hit for at least the hardwork put by IR and all the unnecessary buildup.
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NEPV released in Muscat on Wednesday & I watched it this evening. It’s a horribly slow movie & a mega sodhappal from GVM. I am shedding blood tears for Maestro :( He is totally wasted in the movie. There is not much BGM pieces. All the songs come one after the other & the interludes are repeated as BGM most of the times. The film moves at a snail's pace without much interesting scenes and tests the patience of the viewers. I had enough archanai from family for taking them to watch this ordeal.
Only things I noted: there is a symphonic 3rd interlude added to Vaanam Mella song & a short bit of Pengal Endral in Maestro’s voice. Otherwise, nothing much to write about :(
So, sadly the enigma haunting IR has come true again :(
Whenever big directors switch to IR from other MDs, they come up with a failing product..
Agathiyan, Cheran, Myskkin, now GVM to the list...sad..very sad !
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So, sadly the enigma haunting IR has come true again :(
Whenever big directors switch to IR from other MDs, they come up with a failing product..
Agathiyan, Cheran, Myskkin, now GVM to the list...sad..very sad !
The problem is all these directors come with their fresh ideas initially and its new in the market and sells.
By the time they come to IR their brand of movies are typical and boring.
A classic reverse case is Bala..Sedhu, Pithamagan type of movies where his brand..he came to IR and they became hits.
But then his brand of movies started becoming boring and be it IR or anybody cannot save them
I doubted the same with GVM..never have liked his movies..didnt even watch VTV, varanam etc..
He has tried his same formula in NEPV.It will never get crtitical acclaim.His target audience is the college crowd. ..lets wait and see if it does commercially fine.
Dosent matter anyways..we have got what it matters..a new age Raja album..Thats all matters
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balachidam
The problem is all these directors come with their fresh ideas initially and its new in the market and sells.
By the time they come to IR their brand of movies are typical and boring.
A classic reverse case is Bala..Sedhu, Pithamagan type of movies where his brand..he came to IR and they became hits.
But then his brand of movies started becoming boring and be it IR or anybody cannot save them
I doubted the same with GVM..never have liked his movies..didnt even watch VTV, varanam etc..
He has tried his same formula in NEPV.It will never get crtitical acclaim.His target audience is the college crowd. ..lets wait and see if it does commercially fine.
Dosent matter anyways..we have got what it matters..a new age Raja album..Thats all matters
Disagree with you on the last line..
if you want just an album to enjoy, that is fine. But if you want that album to be popular and well received by public, the film has to succeed...
I believe we are not living in the "Kadhal Oviyam" times where music stood apart irrespective of the film's failure..
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raja_fan
Disagree with you on the last line..
if you want just an album to enjoy, that is fine. But if you want that album to be popular and well received by public, the film has to succeed...
I believe we are not living in the "Kadhal Oviyam" times where music stood apart irrespective of the film's failure..
Completely agree with you on your view.
My thought is as a Raja fan alone. Public/popularity at large is just good to have.
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GVM cautions viewers to scale down their expectations! He advises them to come just for Ilayaraja.
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-14-12-12.html
Perhaps, he has realized that his goose will be cooked soon.
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hahahahaha! My prediction seems to be coming true. NEPV seems to be just a reason to work with Raaja. Looks like it is almost a remake of VTV but with Raaja's music.
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Did the Hindi film "Happi," for which IR did the music, ever release? What about the soundtrack? The trailer featured some amazing orchestral music, and the film looks pretty good too.
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Did the Hindi film "Happi," for which IR did the music, ever release? What about the soundtrack? The trailer featured some amazing orchestral music, and the film looks pretty good too.
it didnt.
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Telugu version of the film (Yeto vellipoyindi manasu) has been getting mostly positive reviews. Some reviewers loved the film. As usual, heaps of praises on Maestro.
I have seen the film. Though the fanboy in me is disappointed in the BGM department, the film as such is not bad, if you put up with the slow pace. GVM shot a few songs very well... "Laayi laayi", "Yententa dooram", "Koti koti" are a delight.. especially the first one. The film is way too verbose... offering very little scope for BGM. GVM seems to rely on dialoges more than expressions. There is not much Raja can do when the lead characters keep bickering through out the film. Over all, not bad.
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teja
Telugu version of the film (Yeto vellipoyindi manasu) has been getting mostly positive reviews. Some reviewers loved the film. As usual, heaps of praises on Maestro.
I have seen the film. Though the fanboy in me is disappointed in the BGM department, the film as such is not bad, if you put up with the slow pace. GVM shot a few songs very well... "Laayi laayi", "Yententa dooram", "Koti koti" are a delight.. especially the first one. The film is way too verbose... offering very little scope for BGM. GVM seems to rely on dialoges more than expressions. There is not much Raja can do when the lead characters keep bickering through out the film. Over all, not bad.
That gives some relief !
But I read in one of the reviews that GVM has broken the songs in to parts in the picturization...is that true ?
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That gives some relief !
But I read in one of the reviews that GVM has broken the songs in to parts in the picturization...is that true ?
Yes, but it only enhances the impact. For example "laaayi laayi" (Vaanam mella) runs for almost 10 mins, with an extra interlude & a bit of charanam without the vocals.
"Atu itu" (Mudhal murai) is played multiple times instead of BGM in some scenes. GVM shot most songs in an unconventional way. Impressive!
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Super positive reviews pouring in...
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/cinema/...cle4199688.ece
http://postnoon.com/2012/12/14/yeto-...-romance/94731
http://hitorphat.in/yeto-vellipoindi...ont-miss-this/
http://www.rediff.com/movies/report/...s/20121214.htm
"Ilayaraja was a perfect choice for this. Every song is different from one another and comes at right place. His re-recording is a lesson to the new age music directors. Poor chaps will be ashamed of themselves after watching this film."
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