IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

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இளையராஜாவிடம் முன்கூட்டியே படத்தின் சில காட்சிகளை விளக்கி, அதற்கு அட்வான்ஸாக பின்னணி இசை வாங்கிக் கொண்டு, அதற்கேற்றபடி 'கண்ணுக்குள்ளே' படத்தின் அந்த சீரியஸான காட்சிகளை ஷூட் செய்துள்ளார் இயக்குநர் லேனா மூவேந்தர். இந்த வித்தியாசமான முயற்சியின் பலனை ஸ்க்ரீனில் பார்த்த இசைஞானி, ரொம்பவே பூரித்துப் போனாராம்..

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This is on this weeks Junior Vikatan.

The following was also on the same edition. I hope Ilayaraja does not signup for this Velu Prabakaran's projects any more.

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காதல் புரட்சியை உண்டாக்கிய வேலு பிரபாகரன் 'பத்மநாபபுரத்து தேவதாசி கி.பி 1500' என்கிற தலைப்பில் அடுத்த 'ஏ'ஞ்சல் கதைக்குத் தயாராகி விட்டார். திருவிதாங்கூர் மகாராஜா சமஸ்தானத்தில் நடந்த உண்மைக்கதையின் பிரதிபலிப்புதான் கதையாம்

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BTW, happened to see/hear two scenes involving 'lovemaking' of the hero and heroine from "Kadhal Arangam'... can't stop thinking why IR is still watering scum.. (vizhalukku iraiththa neer)..! such a beautiful BGM for an excuse of a movie..! i can post the links if required.

I sympathesize with you. We are commenting on 2 things - IR's music and his 'eccentricities' in public relations.

If music is not good - such as 'ennada paandi' it should be ok to say so. But hard core fans can't seem to accept that. Whatever IR brings out is an oscar winning song for them. Let it be.

Public relations - whatever his eccentricities he may have, it is not good for public image. His eccentricity is overshadowing his talent. And this is not a profession have bucket load of enemies which he already has.

I am hardcore as well, but day by day his public relations is worsening and I don't mind talking about it. Similarly with his music.

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

Hello....

I do not know why this forum has become such intolerant to different views and people have started ridiculing peoples' comments like this...

Even I was branded as a critic..I do not know why...I have been in this forum for 9 years now and have never seen such intolerance here..

Do you want every one to become IR worshippers ?

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The replies to my post itself shows that this forum has changed again to a place where people lack mutual respect.

Ok Guys ! I am logging off..No hard feelings..

Just that I have come to the conclusion that IR and this forum has lost steam !

Good bye ! All the best ! :)

Thanks irir, I hate to be harsh but let me say this - you won't be missed.
People like cr call a spade a spade here and command huge respect. Infact, I don't even go out of the way to hear recent ir songs, and I have stated this before. What gets my goat is agenda-driven muck throwing at ir. To be fair, I wouldn't put you in that group. But you seem to have unwittingly taken up their cause. Ok, I take back my harsh words in the first sentence.

Let me just state that and first and foremost we are IR fans. Some of the people here are not even critics, but act like some depressed fans who have no interest in thalaivar's music. Things like "oh my god this type of film", "songs have too much synth, i am skipping", tune seems familiar etc etc.

Any fan of a composer would listen to the songs and let it attend to his/her ears instead of analysing how it sounds similar to and what instrument he should not have used. I think thalaivar knows best about what he should do for his songs instead of us advising him. While jaganmohini with the exception of a few is being thrashed, it is being hailed as a phenomenon in orkut and ir yahoo group. They have mentioned this as a new style thalaivar is adopting but still brings around his delicacies to the fore while here one listen and it is gone.

The problem with this place is they are over-critical without even understanding how IR composes his songs. And they assume faster than lightning strikes. This brings away the fun of listening to a IR album. What difference is there between such people and those tabloid critics?

Dochu, IR has alot of varieties within him. If Ennada Pandi does not appeal to you, it does not mean its bad. It is a situational song with orchestration imitating the protagonist. But you seem to belong to the OCWUC(Over critical without understanding composition) group. If you are the type that prefer grandeur in compositions(even though grandeur has alot of definitions) than its best you only listen to that and ignore the other albums. :D

Hulkster,
I don't think I am being overcritical. I don't mind it being complex raga or whatever, but if it doesn't please the mass, then it is not going to be a hit.

2 decades ago (until maybe mid 90's), I don't think we were talking about his composition or raga. His songs fell in either of 2 categories: good or bad. Luckily most of his songs were good and liked by people.

Instead of me being critical, to turn it around, I think some of the HC fans have resorted to dissect each song in terms of raga, (& other technicalities) and see if it appeals to them in some way or other.

I don't think 'ennada pandi' made it to top 10 chart in TV shows. I think it is high time for people to accept that it is a below average song than praise it as an oscar winning one as it had complex tune, or situation etc. If it was the 80's IR then I am sure he would have done a better one for that song than now.

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Originally Posted by dochu

2 decades ago (until maybe mid 90's), I don't think we were talking about his composition or raga.

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Well, you're definitely wrong on this part! Absolutely!!

There was no web but this was possibly the most discussed topic among most of my associates :-)

While only a few of them had rAgA knowledge and talked about it, every other person had exquisite comments to tell about his instrumental finesse.

And there were people who relentlessly fought as to 'who did this first , MSV or IR' kind.

And also there were countless associates who discussed about specific BGM's (it wasn't always about songs).

Looks like you had non-music-savvy people around you those days :-)

The whole thing of "talking about compositions of MD" has become such an interesting topic in TN right from the days that IR entered into the scene. (I don't know for sure, but in my guess, it's that tradition that led to the starting of original tfmpage.com itself - all the other forums came much later)

Don't take my word for it, ask anyone who has visited tfmpage during the 90's!

Also I clearly remember kumudam publishing a long "argument" between an MSV-fan & IR-fan around 81-82, just to showcase the kind of debate that was raging through out TN those days !

a_e,

I meant to include 'web' when I mentioned 2 decades ago.

Maybe there were discussions on raga and compositions as you have mentioned, but I think now, it is much more talked because of tech development (web). Hence I mentioned we didn't discuss as much as now than 2 decades ago.

I am not 'musically' gifted to analyze ragas, but consider being part of the TN mass who plainly enjoys a song without critically dissecting it.

I do not wish to divulge more - trust me, I am among family & friends who are highly reputable (still) in music world. I am the one who deviated from music to pursue other things.