Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan

In Gauravam, Shivaji’s class was everywhere. One can notice a distinctive difference in the approach between 2 Shivajis…..

The Senior will be full of proud and arrogance …. Frequently found smoking with Pipe.. While the Junior will be deeply religious…. With Veshti and White Full shirt…….

The way they walk there will be a difference…

The way they talk…. There will be a difference….

Junior Shivaji will always give a gentle and soft look … while the Senior one will display a royal arrogance and proudness……..

The Senior Shivaji will also exhibit his upper middle class behaviour…….

There will be scenes llike reading papers…. And reacting to the news that someone else has been made Judge which he was aspiring for…… and then taking the Mohandas case as a challenge…….. winning it…….

All through the movie…. Both will maintain that class…… and that’s why it came out as one of Shivaji’s best movies…….

Dear Balaji...

The difference you mentioned between two Sivaji's also perfect. Another thing did you notice?. The senior Sivaji will looks as slim (with fulshirt inserted) and junior Sivaji looks little fat (mostly with half shirt).

The scene you mentioned as reading a newspaper, it has a story.

At that time both Savaley Samaali and Rikshawkaran were sent to central selection comiittee along with some other Tamil movies for the selection of National Award. Everybody well known, MGR was selected as best actor (????...!!!!) for Rikshawkaran.

For an indirect attacking about that selection, Vietnam Veedu Sundaram wrote dialogues in Gowravam for that scene. You just imagine that scene.

Shivaji (reading newspaper): "Advocate Rengabashyam appointed as Highcourt judge" (then talking himself) " Ennadaa idhu?. Logamey kettu poyiduthaa. Unmaiyaana thiramaikkum uzhaipukkum inge mariyaadhaiye kidaiyaatha?. Pattam padhavi ellaamey recommendation with politicsaa?. Ennai vida junior ivan. Serndahhapola naalu vaarthai pesa theriyaathu (MGR?). Ivan case ellaamae 'adithadi case' (stunt?). Ivanukku justice post..???. Moonu thadavai en perai therndheduthu regret pannitaaley. Appadeenna ennai avamaana paduthuraalaa..?"

(turnig to junior Shivaji)

"Dey Kanna... bail move pannuda. Annikku court vaasailile ninnu, ennai kaapaatha yaarumillaiyaanu kathinaaney andha Mohandossai veliyil kondu vara poren. Ennudaiya vaadah thiramaiyaale, thooku medaiyil nirkira ovvoru kaithiyaiyum viduthalai vaangi thara poren".

I hope you can imagine that scene.

(Once Mr. Maniyan, Editor of 'Idhayam Pesugirathu', told "Isaw Gowravam several times. But still I cant beleive both Sivajis are one person. Such a difference in all aspects")

Saradha!

Thanks for that one. Is that movie running on your screen. Wow!Dialogue by dialogue. Even Balaji Sir's postings abt movies,cricket makes me feel the same way or picked from his archives(diary..). Really worthmentioning. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Isnt this enough for someone who degraded Sivaji as overacting and hasnt got a NA...

Pls continue this topic without deviating the topic.....

my favourite movie of shivaji is "karnan"

especially the scene where beeshmar announces him as "artharadhan"(the soldier standing atlast).....excellent scene.....

Thanks for the welcome guys. have been visiting the hub for sometime, but didnt have the time to post. To watch 'Shivaji' act is a pleasure. It may sound cliche but he really gets into the skin of the character. Be it serious movies like 'Gauravam' or 'Karnan' or humorous movies like 'Bale Pandiya', he pervades the scene. There is a particular scene in 'Sabhash Meena' where he calls his father to drive the car, mistaking him to be the driver (his father plays along to find out what he is upto). After Chandrababu and co. get into the car, he asks the driver to stop midway for a tin of cigarettes.

'Shivaji' (to Chandrababu): Rendu mani neram cigarette pudikalayna udambu ennathukku aradhu. Indha kandravi nattulethan appanukku munnadi magan cigarette pudikka kudhdhu. Mel nattula ellam paru, appanum maganum onna cigarette pudippanga.
(and hands over a 100 rupee note to the driver (his father)
His father: aa.. nooru rubaya?!
'Shivaji': yen ya yen? unga appan veetu soththa..?

That was simple and pure comedy played out very effectively

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Dear Balaji...

The difference you mentioned between two Sivaji's also perfect. Another thing did you notice?. The senior Sivaji will looks as slim (with fulshirt inserted) and junior Sivaji looks little fat (mostly with half shirt).

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Ofcourse, I know that difference as well... One scene which Junior was wearing full shirt was while coming back with Vegetables.... Pudalangai etc etc and coming across His lover's friends....

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. Annikku court vaasailile ninnu, ennai kaapaatha yaarumillaiyaanu kaThe scene you mentioned as reading a newspaper, it has a story.

At that time both Savaley Samaali and Rikshawkaran were sent to central selection comiittee along with some other Tamil movies for the selection of National Award. Everybody well known, MGR was selected as best actor (????...!!!!) for Rikshawkaran.

For an indirect attacking about that selection, Vietnam Veedu Sundaram wrote dialogues in Gowravam for that scene. You just imagine that scene.

Shivaji (reading newspaper): "Advocate Rengabashyam appointed as Highcourt judge" (then talking himself) " Ennadaa idhu?. Logamey kettu poyiduthaa. Unmaiyaana thiramaikkum uzhaipukkum inge mariyaadhaiye kidaiyaatha?. Pattam padhavi ellaamey recommendation with politicsaa?. Ennai vida junior ivan. Serndahhapola naalu vaarthai pesa theriyaathu (MGR?). Ivan case ellaamae 'adithadi case' (stunt?). Ivanukku justice post..???. Moonu thadavai en perai therndheduthu regret pannitaaley. Appadeenna ennai avamaana paduthuraalaa..?"

(turnig to junior Shivaji)

"Dey Kanna... bail move pannudathinaaney andha Mohandossai veliyil kondu vara poren. Ennudaiya vaadah thiramaiyaale, thooku medaiyil nirkira ovvoru kaithiyaiyum viduthalai vaangi thara poren".

I hope you can imagine that scene.

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Eaapdee neenga dialogue by dialogue adikireenga.!! :!: Amazing.... Once again , I admit that you are a Authority on Old films.... Hats off....
You know ...all the dialogues during that scene... I have them by heart.... especially when Shivaji pronounces the word... RECOMMENDATION.... He will pronounce in typical Mylapore Style !

Did you notice one more subtle difference in the acting.... Whenever the Junior meets Senior... Oru Guruvidam eppadee Panivum addakkamum irukkumo... appadee oru behaviour irukkum.
Junior eppodhum oru bayandha subaavathudan dhaan senioridam pesuvaar........
while the senior will be very inconsistent in his behaviour... In the spur of the moment , the senior will ask the Junior to leave his house....and the junior will leave lamenting... with those famous dialogues..... POGANUMNA THONRADHU ANAAA ENGAY POGANUMNU THONALAYE.....
The senior will casually later enquire Chellaaa... Di Chella... Engadee andha paya.......
Poitaan...
Ennadhu aathavite poitannaaa.
Damn it..... Enna avvalavu periya manushan aayitaana avan...

Adhu vera onnumiladee.... Kilikku rakka molachiduthu.... Aaatha vittu parandhu poiduthu......

ALL IN TYPICAL MYLAPORE STYLE..!!!!




Great... Keep it up.......

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Originally Posted by Scale

Saradha!

Thanks for that one. Is that movie running on your screen. Wow!Dialogue by dialogue. Even Balaji Sir's postings abt movies,cricket makes me feel the same way or picked from his archives(diary..). Really worthmentioning. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Isnt this enough for someone who degraded Sivaji as overacting and hasnt got a NA...

Pls continue this topic without deviating the topic.....

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Dear Scale,

If you read the other earlier postings of Sharadhajii in other threads, you will realise that she is an encyclopeadia on Tamil films....She had shared so much of old information.....
Me... I had enjoyed every moment of my School and College days watching the Legend Shivaji.....and recollect them and type my message......

Balaji sir, I totally agree with your statement about Ms. Saradha. I read almost all of her comments and stunned like anything. Some informations what she is giving, may be forgotton by its producres and directors. But she will give with full informations with years also..............

I also appreciate her boldness to present her statement even many fans opposes it.............

If you call saradhaji as encyclopedia of Tamil movies, then I can call you as 'Encyclopedia of movies, cricket, mahabaratham, Ramayanam'. That much collections you have in mind and serving for us suitably........

Hats off both of you...............

On seeing both of your valuable comments here, I hesitate to post my comments.........

Keep it up and flow without break........

Karthik.

Super Actor kamal Hassan planing to open a 'Acting college' in the name of Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji
http://thatstamil.indiainfo.com/spec...s/kamal15.html

If this is true ,no words to praise our kamal ,who is true sivaji fan.

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Super Actor kamal Hassan planing to open a 'Acting college' in the name of Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji
http://thatstamil.indiainfo.com/spec...s/kamal15.html

If this is true ,no words to praise our kamal ,who is true sivaji fan.

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must be appreciated....he is the right and fit person to do it in the name of shivaji...

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