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I want to know the origin of "Vimal"/Vimala/Nirmala/Nirmal/Shymala"
It means pure in sanskrit.
"Mala" means impure.Does this come from the Tamil word "malam" meaning impurity?
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malar ÁÄ÷ (T) flower : > mala -malaa. -mal. -ÁÄ, -ÁÄ¡, -Áø, -ÁÇ¡
vizu malar (T) Å¢ØÁÄ÷ : excellent flower : > vimala Å¢ÁÄ¡, Å¢ÁÄ
niRa malar (T) ¿¢ÈÁÄ÷ splendid flower : > nirmala. niRam= oLi. ¿¢÷ÁÄ¡, ¿¢÷ÁÄõ.
chezu malar (T) ¦ºØÁÄ÷ : beautiful fresh flower : >shyamaLa. º¢Â¡ÁÇ¡
kazu malar (T) ¸ØÁÄ÷ - flower washed by water, lotus : > kamalaa. kamala, kamalam. ¸ÁÄ¡, ¸ÁÄ, ¸ÁÄõ, ¸Áø.
maalai Á¡¨Ä > maalaa Á¡Ä¡. (now spelt as mala ) not phoenetic spelling.
malam ÁÄõ - impurity ÁÄ ( also ÓõÁÄõ)
confusion arises in Skrt because malar : "r" was dropped by them and then word is permitted thereby to confuse with mala meaning impurity which also dropped the -m.
In Tamil, no confusion!!
also: maalikaa (skrt) from T: maalai. (raagamaaliha)
maaliha > malihaa (girl's name in Malay).
In sanskrit, sandhya means twilight or evening.A junction between afternoon & evening etc.
Did this come from Tamil word "Santhippu"(meaning a meeting place or junction)
¾Á¢ú ¦¿Êø º¢Ä¦º¡È¸Ç¢ø ÌȢġ¸¢Å¢Îõ.
Tamil long vowels in some words become shortened The word saar in Tamil means to reach, to lean over, join. Another form of the same word saar is sEr.
This word "santhiya" is in fact corrupted or forged from "saarnthiyai" (T).
saarnthiyai > santhiyai > santhiyaa. (long vowel shortened and "r" dropped. (i) changed to "a" as word-ending).
( iravum pakalum saarnthu iyayum kaalam).
saarnthu + iyai.
saarnthu is a participle of the word saar (sEr) meaning to join. Participles have been used in the course of word-building in Tamil. e.g.,
aNinthurai (preface) from aNinthu + urai (old word)
parnthurai (recommendation) from parinthu+ urai. (modern word).
saayum + kaalam > saayumkaalam > saayngaalam. (kathiravan saayum kaalam).
saarnthiyai > santhiya then means the time when afternoon and night became mixed.
sandhya in Sanskrit : n. (fr. SaNDha} the state of being a eunuch , impotence. Not same.
Viggop,
how many words still remain in Sanskrit to be explained? You must be done sooner or later. Why don't you take the word for Water? But to start with which one out of the 70 is your problem I guess.
Mala,
a while ago you explained the name Rama= Iraaman with "ir" in Tamil is darkness.
Is it the same with IraavaNan? Somebody of darkness?
If what I guess is right then the whole RaamaayaNam is nothing else than a descrption of the flora, fauna and geography similar to those myths of the ancient greek like the Helena, The Jason and the argonauts.
Yes. Eravanan has root in 'Er'. Eravu + Vannan = Eraavanan. Means black colour.
f.s.gandhi
and FSG has given you the answer!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Azhahan
Further:
Ratha or Radha was also a dark girl. The root is also ir = black. Iraathai> Iraathaa > Radha. from Tamil root.
According to P.C. Sarkar whom I read some time back, Radha was a duetero-mongoloid, "yellowish dark". or brown like a Malay, Filipino etc of the SEAsia region. It seems the migration of this kind of people took place in prehistoric times from island of Formosa (now Taiwan) to the Malay Archipelago and then to India. The dark colour may have resulted from some mixture with the Negritos. So, she was probably of Polynesian ( a resultant stock ) descent.
It has been said by other writers here before that Krishnan is from the root "karu" (T). Karu (T) to Kru in Northern adaptation. cf : the term krishNapaksham opp. of Sukkilapaksham. Krishnapaksham is actually the "dark side" of the moon. That confirms the etymology and meaning.
Some more:
The imaginary planet "Raagu". Meaning: black serpent. Also from Tamil root: ir = dark. ir > iraa > iraagu > raagu. ( raagu is northern adaptation.)
If we were to carry on researching on Tamil roots of Skrt words, there are about 60,000 or more and of the remaining, about 50% can be hortly disputed as from Tamil too. This is from about 170000 or more (total). Like Latin, Greek and Hebrew, Skrt is an invented language. Usually a dialect is taken and using it as a base, words are taken from all directions of the earth and a new language is forged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azhahan
Skrt is not a "dead" language in the sense that it had naturally grown and existed and then died. It was invented. So it is more like doll, which was made. It does not "die".
There are lot more and hopefully others may come forward.
Is the word "Dharma" from Tamil?