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No Kamal in your Top 10,he will make it to any Top 10 Indian actors list if not the Top 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poornima
Agree Gopi&Irrfan Khan are brilliant actors,but there are so many facets which has not been tapped at all.Any Top 10 should be on the performances delivered¬ on potential.
cinefan
needless to say, my list is based on what my views are about acting in its essence. just like your list (not ANY list) would have kamal haasan on the top. fair deal?
regarding irrfan, yeah probably you are right in that his repertoire is not as huge and diverse as kamal. however, he has been consistent all through this period and more importantly, he has turned in fine performances even in pathetic films with hopeless scripts which i think is a pointer to his abilities.
i strongly disagree on gopi... he has delivered time and again and if not for his paralytical ailment, he would have given us many more wonderful performances... there's this 80s movie called yavanika where he plays a brooding, sinister tabla player... knockout performance. and that's one of his under-rated turns.. anyway.
forgive the cliche, but different people have different tastes. these actors have their individual strengths and falls but for me, what connects the list is that all of them have been consistently good and, by and large, stayed away from hamming/overacting in their performances. as i said, in another list by another person, the priorities could be different. so there.
cinefan
needless to say, my list is based on what my views are about acting in its essence. just like your list (not ANY list) would have kamal haasan on the top. fair deal?
regarding irrfan, yeah probably you are right in that his repertoire is not as huge and diverse as kamal. however, he has been consistent all through this period and more importantly, he has turned in fine performances even in pathetic films with hopeless scripts which i think is a pointer to his abilities.
i strongly disagree on gopi... he has delivered time and again and if not for his paralytical ailment, he would have given us many more wonderful performances... there's this 80s movie called yavanika where he plays a brooding, sinister tabla player... knockout performance. and that's one of his under-rated turns.. anyway.
forgive the cliche, but different people have different tastes. these actors have their individual strengths and falls but for me, what connects the list is that all of them have been consistently good and, by and large, stayed away from hamming/overacting in their performances. as i said, in another list by another person, the priorities could be different. so there.
Fair enough poornima.Infact i would have accepted it if I was new to this hub&had not read your posts last tamil New year when you showed a marked bias against Kamal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poornima
Now we all have our biases(for&against),agreed.But your explanation that the actors in your Top 10 have by&large stayed away from hamming/overacting is misleading.
There are innumerable films where Mohan Lal,Mammotty&Amitabh have played to the galleries with their loud performances.Infact Amitabh can't hold a candle to Kamal when it comes to comedy.
And Mithun,he has a large stock of utterly rubbish films.Don't you know?
See,you can have a Top 10 list of your choice,it need not have Kamal haasan,but accept that basically you don't like him instead of justifying his absence thro' unconvincing explanations.
cinefan
if you have really read my previous posts, you should have also accepted that time and again, i have ALSO acknowledged kamal haasan's extremely rich contributions to tamil cinema as a writer and producer. which i think is itself reason for me to believe that there is no marked bias against him. as i said, it's just what hits you as good acting.
about hamming, i've only said they've by and large stayed away from it. they've done it in innumerable films? well, if they are innumerable you couldve mentioned at least a couple of them... which i can, mohanlal has hammed in some of his later films like praja and onnaaman... mammootty in many of his earlier films where he tried to do comedy and failed miserably. amitabh too, especially when he gets overwhelmed by the role and tries to perform for the critics (black).
and to say that amitabh can't hold a candle to kamal in comedy is, well... i don't think any leading actor in this country, not even mohanlal who's a brilliant comic talent, has been as effective as bachchan when it comes to comedy...he has made even the most ludicrous-sounding comic scenes convincing and funny without the backing of sharp-witted writers to do the backing.
about mithun, yeah he has a huge truckload of crappy movies for a career and that's precisely my point. he has delivered in many of these excuses for movies and his contributions in good cinema - mrigaya, tahader katha, gudiya and the like - have been outstanding too. so.
Thanks Poornima for accepting most of what I said ,which means logically you should have had Kamal in your Top 10. :D As for Amitabh&comedy,well i don't share your opinion,Kamal&Mohanlal are far better.
Anyway,that's your list&we will leave it at that.PEACE
what a jaded topic of discussion..so then, wot brings me here??the very fact that this topic has a sense of "repeat value" and an argumentative demeanour which lies within the realms of monotony...
ahhh..the top 10 actors...i believe we need to flush out our perspectives a bit here..when we say an x, y or zee actor is gr8..what exactly r we pointing to out here??is it the fact that the actor in concern has been able to insert in his characters a sense of identity that a large chunk of his audience hv been able to connect with??r we talking abt his contribution to cinema in general??or r we talking abt a sense of individuality that only that particular actor cud have lended to the many acclaimed characters that he has played over a period of time...i vouch for the third clause....its individuality that matters...and for the same reason i say MOHANLAL is the finest actor india has ever produced...but again, i am judging the merit of an actor from a small sphere of observation...its just my yardstick that i am sticking to...but my conclusion on mohanlal is based on one simple observation, he aint the "same ballpark" as that of the other performers whom we deem as "gr8 actors"...a sense of naturality, an easy charm that he has exuded in his roles..he oversimplifies acting...now is tat a gud attribute to be posessing one may ask?? cant say i say...
My top 10 actors based on acting talents.
1. Kamalhasan (Versatility puts him in the top. I believe he is the only actor capable of doing many roles)
2. Shivaji Ganesan.
3. Mohanlal
4. Mamooty
5. Amitabh
6. Sanjeev Kumar
7. Nasrudeen shah
8. Om Puri..
9. Mithun Chakravarthy
10. Nagesh.
:)
Nice list thiru :D .... Nassurdeen Shah is missing in your list :roll:
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I was suppose to write Nasrudeen in place of Nana Patekar . :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by great