Blind worshipping of Thamizh cinema rasigan

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

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Warning: Irrelevant analogy ahead.

Track comedies are travesties against film grammar. But without that there would be no Goundamani.

Between grammar and Goundamani I think the choice is eminently clear.

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Not a totally irrelevant analogy.
It is a peculiarity of Regional cinema/ to an extent Indian cinema stemming from the theatre roots of our stories where there was a vidhooshak cheering the audience while the main players changed into the costumes of the next scene.
When we speak of responsible arthouse ventures, we dont ostracise the tradition of regional cinema, 'Mullum Malarum' had a comedy track with VA moorthy. Keladi Kanmani had fabulous track with Janagaraj and when controlled properly, it can add value to the movie.

Oh I was just being modest :mrgreen: By saying this I guess I have counterbalanced. I was not talking about accomodating the 'traditional'. I was trying to build an anarchic case for the impossibility of overarching objective standards at all. A case I won't buy myself.

I don't understand the film business much but writing in order to understand is what Hubbing is all about !

When the multiplex boom hit us a few years back there was a lot of talk about how this would revolutionize films. How it would make it the preserve of the 'judicious' filmgoers. Indeed Hindi Cinema started having a lot of films which were urbane and quite consciously not catering to the general public. Can't imagine some of the Hindi films released in metros being released in Saharanpur, UP. Yes that is condescending.

Apart from wide market of indhi cinema, one other reason was that film technology was getting cheap. Digital cameras with lesser demands for light and quick processing. I remember some movie that got made by a crew of 12 people ! (Was it Revathi's Mitr)

So even if not the first, the second reason should have seeped into TFI. Has it ? Is that the reason why we saw several small good films in 2007.

If so then 'stars' can make films small enough to be tax write-offs !
But like all artists the lure of a wider applause (and money) is likely immensely attractive even if makes the 'judicious grieve'.
We can all be happily judgemental about that.

Note: I am ware that small is not always beautiful. I had the misfortune of sitting through mind-numbing films like 'White Noise'.Saharanpur brethren may have not been the passive Mumbai audience and would have set the theatre ablaze thereby registering the proper response for that film. I condescend again.

Bottomline: If filmmaking and exhibition are indeed getting cheap, then we will start seeing good (this word is pregnant with arrogance !) films, no matter what.

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Originally Posted by m_23_bayarea

CR, :P

But even in those movies, remember the amazing opening! That's possible only with big stars, because of their fans. No matter how bad the movies are, this "opening" factor makes a big difference in the revenue even if that movie fails to make profit. And this is possible only with fans. If a big star comes up with a really bad movie, there is still this opening and a revenue as a result. If some unknown actor comes up with the same movie, it will bite the dust from day 1 itself I guess! :)

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Fair enough

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Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram

>digr>
Warning: Irrelevant analogy ahead.

Track comedies are travesties against film grammar. But without that there would be no Goundamani.

Between grammar and Goundamani I think the choice is eminently clear.

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:rotfl: :thumbsup:
["Pertinent-ngaraaru"]

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

A movie like Aval Appadithaan or 'Thanneer Thanneer' doesn't cost millions and can earn its value back in just film festival screenings and national award money - why not do that?

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The costs incurred in making a film is bound by subject matter, technology and presentation. Parallel cinema is mostly restricted to experimentation with subject matter due to cost constraints. The more complex the setting, the more difficult it is to keep the budget small.Throw in the desire to fiddle with new techniques (think graphics) and you are already on your way to building a behemoth. And then there is the matter of wider recognition as PR put it. Rudraiyya and KB didn't have to deal with that.

BTW, do you seriously think Mullum Malarum can be classified as parallel cinema? I think it is blatantly commercial.

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Originally Posted by kannannn

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

A movie like Aval Appadithaan or 'Thanneer Thanneer' doesn't cost millions and can earn its value back in just film festival screenings and national award money - why not do that?

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The costs incurred in making a film is bound by subject matter, technology and presentation. Parallel cinema is mostly restricted to experimentation with subject matter due to cost constraints. The more complex the setting, the more difficult it is to keep the budget small.Throw in the desire to fiddle with new techniques (think graphics) and you are already on your way to building a behemoth. And then there is the matter of wider recognition as PR put it. Rudraiyya and KB didn't have to deal with that.

BTW, do you seriously think Mullum Malarum can be classified as parallel cinema? I think it is blatantly commercial.

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Mullum malarum is arthouse material with arthouse sensibility - If Mahendran had been in Bengal - it would have been arthouse - it even qualifies to be classified as independant film for some portions funded by mahendran and Kamal

Milk Abishekam + Soodam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUScosGFTy8

Crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1xUitaG9bc

Milk Abishekam 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r99X2jo2Oc

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I am sure, this wont be condemned by many who complains about blind-worshipping or whatsoever! :lol:

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Originally Posted by thamiz

Milk Abishekam + Soodam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUScosGFTy8

Crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1xUitaG9bc

Milk Abishekam 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r99X2jo2Oc

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I am sure, this wont be condemned by many who complains about blind-worshipping or whatsoever! :lol:

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1.the hero dint warrant these type of activities.he is strictly against these galataas.


2.the hero dint maintain the rasigar mandram for the sake of his own benifit and has clear cut visions abt his narpani mandrams and so are his fans.

To be true to both Rajini and Kamal - they have stayed away from manipulaing their fan clubs (or narpani mandrams - just a name) for political or selfish gains. However there is an image/culture/sub culture that has been established in thamizh naadu for fans - no matter how hard the concerned heroes wish, fans have to compete and in the process are bound to do all sortsa rubbish. what we can expect from the stars is to follow Sivakumar's path in abolishing all the fan clubs and that takes a lot of guts.

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Originally Posted by Vivasaayi

1.the hero dint warrant these type of activities.he is strictly against these galataas.


2.the hero dint maintain the rasigar mandram for the sake of his own benifit and has clear cut visions abt his narpani mandrams and so are his fans.

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Nobody talks about the "hero" here as you can see from the title.

I am only talking about "visiladichchAn kunjukaL"!