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To me the biggest turn-off in azhagi varA is the very unimaginative lyrics / atrocious singing by the lead singer:-(

Don't tell me I've now become sophisticated and all that - it's a 'never applicable' condition in my case as I've taken a vow not to get sophi:-))

It's plain simple - we should not make songs just with the words we speak (i.e. regular conversational prose) as that's void of any imagination and = dumbness! Even the songs that are sung in paddy fields won't use the words like 'azhagi varappOrA, chORu tharappOrA':-( They'll have some extra stuff kicked in, please refer to ANY of those themmAngu numbers of IR from his initial years, and you'll know what I mean.

2nd thing - lead singer:-( IMO, IR should stop signing up this guy Tippu for such songs. He is no MV. Even if IR uses an aged MV (why even Mano) the results will be better IMO!

If you look at it seriously, the sandhams of azhagi varA are same as the kuRavanji (vAnarangaL kani koduththu mandhiyOdu konjum etc) which was out-and-out folk (far away from anything you call sophi). Now compare both these:-(

On top of these, UO is supposed to be a period movie. Why go to centuries back (and dig into ilakkiyams), even a few decades back you won't hear such horrible language in folk songs as they always have some real "local words and phrases" that are also musical (i.e. having a puN). This sounds like today's madras (or some suburb) bAshai to me.

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Originally Posted by rajasaranam

முன்பு ராஜா ஒரு காட்டாறு! வழியில் இருந்தது எல்லாம் ஒதுங்கி கொள்ள 'ஜோ'ன்னு கொட்ற இசையருவி கீழ நின்னு அதை ரசித்தோம். இப்ப நிச்சலனமாய் கடந்து போகும் நதி! மூழ்கிதான் ரசிக்கனும். வேண்டாம் என்பவர்கள் கொஞ்சம் பின்னோக்கி போய் அருவியில் நனைய தடை இல்லை. நதியின் ஆழத்தையும் அமைதியையும் ரசிக்க நினைப்பவர்கள் இங்கு வரவும் தடை இல்லை.
இதில் உயர்வென்ன தாழ்வென்ன? என் அவா சிக்கிரம் அவர் கடலாய் சமுத்திரமாய் மாற வேண்டும் என்பதே. ஒரு பத்து பதினைந்து 'சிம்பொனி'களாவது அமைக்க வேண்டும், என் வாழ்வு தீர்வதற்க்குள் கடலாட வேண்டும்.

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Aaha !! Andha NaaLum Vandhidaatho !!!

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Originally Posted by app_engine

It's plain simple - we should not make songs just with the words we speak (i.e. regular conversational prose) as that's void of any imagination and = dumbness!

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Depends... think of songs like "enna paattu paada enna thaalam poda" (Sakkalathi) or "orampo".. very colloquial lyrics that Raaja pulls off brilliantly. He often stamps his mark in incorporating casual lyrics in songs - only someone with true knowledge and control can make such accommodations. But then, the voice, pronunciation, situation, music must match it... the rustic charm is now missing and it just sounds pseudo.. neither here nor there...
~~வைக்காதே ஆசை, அது வெங்காய தோசை~~

ananth222,

If you take each of those songs with "colloquial" lyrics, there was this IR singing factor that masked them somehow.

Infact, initially me & my gang ridiculed 'enna pAttupAda' so much (ippidiyellAm oru pAtta). It took some time for that to "grow on" me. In addition, the vaNdichchaththam based song was novel at that time, compare with the azhagi rhythm - there would have been 100's of them from IR already.

Same in the case of Oram pO, here the percussion arrangement was phenomenally new and Raja carried the song with his rustic rendering as well.

In addition both the above songs were part of 100% folk packages where these were more or less expected (unlike UO where you jump from AraNangE to this which may be the reason for turn-off for many)

I think KVM's 'thillA langidi dappAnguththu Attam AduvEn shOkkAppAttuppAduvEn...ajak chA' is the thematic explanation for this azhagi varA. (If that can be in TM, why not this in UO'ngaRa mAdhiri discuss paNNi iruppAngaLO?)

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Originally Posted by ananth222

some people think they have completely figured out what "the mass" is and exactly what "the mass" wants...

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NOM. Isn't that quite obvious by the audio sales and popularity?

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Originally Posted by dochu

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Originally Posted by ananth222

some people think they have completely figured out what "the mass" is and exactly what "the mass" wants...

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NOM. Isn't that quite obvious by the audio sales and popularity?

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NO :)

rs,
obviously, I don't agree. neither the 'mass'. :wink:

hope it was a typo - using caps doesn't reflect proper netiquette.
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