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Originally Posted by Siv.S
‘Jupiter Ascending’ tops Malaysian box office, followed by Tamil thriller
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'Jupiter Ascending' tops the Malaysian movie box office scene while 'Spongebob' cleans up the North American box office. — jupiterascending.com pic
DESPITE faring averagely at the North American box office, Jupiter Ascending seems to be the favourite in Malaysia.
According to GSC’s Top 10 movie listing for the closing weekend, the fantasy flick starring Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum, holds the top spot, followed by Yennai Arindhaal, a Tamil thriller starring Ajith Kumar, Trisha Krishnan and Anushka.
Japanese anime The Last: Naruto The Movie holds 3rd place while epic drama Unbroken, directed by Angelina Jolie, and The Wedding Ringer comedy, starring Kevin Hart, Josh Gad and Olivia Thirlby, comes in 4th and 5th respectively.
The Imitation Game and Project Almanac take 6th and 7th places, followed by local comedy drama Suamiku Encik Perfect 10, starring Aaron Aziz and Lisa Surihani.
Action thriller Wild Card, starring Jason Statham, and Chinese romantic-comedy My Mr Right, telling the adventures of a group of newly-weds and lovers from Taiwan and China who sign up for a romantic getaway in Malaysia, take up the last two spots.
North American Box Office
AFP reports that at the North American box office, The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water has dethroned American Sniper in its first week of release.
The animated 3D movie, in which the title character attempts to recover a stolen burger recipe, debuts with US$55.4 million (RM197 million) in ticket sales, according to box office tracker Exhibitor Relations.
American Sniper, relegated to second place, has US$23.3 million (RM82.9 million) in ticket sales as it finally fell from top spot.
Since its release, the highly acclaimed movie has bagged half-dozen Oscar nominations, including a best actor nod for Bradley Cooper in the title role.
Jupiter Ascending sold the third most tickets this week, with a disappointing US$18.4 million (RM65.46 million) in its opening weekend.
Seventh Son, a 3D fantasy-action film starring Jeff Bridges and Julianne Moore, debuts in fourth spot, earning US$7.2 million (RM25.62 million).
Project Almanac takes fifth place with US$5.23 million (RM18.61 million) in ticket sales.
Paddington, a big-screen adaptation of the family classic about a bear lost in the big city, earns a whisker less for sixth place with US$5.22 million (RM18.57 million).
The Wedding Ringer takes US$4.72 million (RM16.79 million) for seventh place, followed by The Imitation Game, which stars Benedict Cumberbatch as code-breaking genius Alan Turing, at US$4.69 million (RM16.69 million) for eighth spot.
Black or White, a racially-charged drama starring Kevin Costner as a widowed grandfather battling to retain custody of his mixed-race granddaughter, is in ninth place with US$4.5 million (RM16 million).
Jennifer Lopez’s steamy The Boy Next Door, in which the pop diva plays a divorcee who has an ill-advised affair with a very young male neighbour, comes in 10th with US$4.1 million (RM15 million).
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First of all, I am not going to use cuss words or any foul language to pass my message and reply to this post.
The article header is 'Is YA a profitable venture'? By profit, I guess he meant the profit for distributors and theatre owners and not the government. So Kaththi was definitely in a better position of being profitable to the above said segments, thanks to the tax exemption it got in the state.
Now coming to the first weekend collections of both movies, both had their own set of advantages. One was released during the festival weekend whereas the other released solo with no competition for 8 days. One received mixed critic reviews whereas the other one got thumbs up from most renowned reviewers. One had almost nil promotions. Even the trailer released only couple of days before the film release whereas the other one had good promotions. And past history of GVM doesn’t matter here because he has always hit the bull's eye with his action films. Comparing YA with NEPV or Nadunisi Naaigal is as stupid as comparing Ai and Nanban as both are different genres. Above all, one film's release was in doubt till the previous day eve because of the thideer eelam supporters while other one had the smoothest of releases.
In spite of all these hurdles, Kaththi ended up with 7.8 Crores in Chennai Box Office, $624,445 in the USA, $193k in Aus. I request you to see if YA manages to reach these milestones at least before declaring a hands down win. I don’t want to bring in UK, Kerala and ROI and all, at least for now.
Let’s do a 5 comparison for both movies. Day 1 through Day 5 including premier shows – YA - $480k, Kaththi - $511kQuote:
Originally Posted by BM
Normally per day average is not a good indicator because the no.of screens/locations also matter, but here I think the no. of screens for both are 98 (or thereabouts); so you can do the per day/screen average if you like now that both numbers are 5 day numbers. Diwali is not a festival in US (definitely not the full week); and let’s be fair here…Kaththi had SRK’s Happy New Year to deal with in US from Friday.
The US distributor has acknowledged the numbers are good, but I don’t know if they are still in the profit zone. If they are, it’s great for them and the makers.
YA released in 12 screens; whereas Kaththi released in 10. So while I respect the intent of building averages here, the better way to do a comparison would be per screen. Meaning the $38k per day for YA came from 12 screens vs $32k coming from 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by BM
YA : $38,420 / 12 = $3,201
Kaththi : $32,196 / 10 = $3,219
Again, like the point about Australia above, you are comparing numbers blindly to derive the per day without taking into consideration the no. of screens/shows across TN. Also, Kaththi had an additional work day in between (Diwali doesn’t mean all the 5 days were off days). Also, I read some great posts here in this very hub that YA was released all across Chennai city and adjoining centers in almost all screens; except 3 cinemas. So why is the opening day still low compared to Kaththi; which shared screens with Poojai (released in 300 screens in TN)Quote:
Originally Posted by BM
Here your math as per the BW numbers is absolutely correct and I do not want to debate this. My only question here is the same as above. YA released in ALL screens in Chennai except 3 (as per a post in YA thread before release). As per the above report, YA had 486 shows for 3 days whereas Kaththi had 411 shows. This means YA has 75 shows extra, i.e. only 25 shows per day more than Kaththi?Quote:
Originally Posted by BM
Yeah, if you take out the day of release when the kings and queens of opening arrive with a trumpet, or if you ignore the fact that it was a solo showdown or 'saturated' showdown, as ever, hands down, it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by BM
Cedy - as always...brilliant post!! :clap::thumbsup:
On the UK, KL and other regions, I think we should get some more facts straight here. I keep seeing and reading posts that refer to KL, UK etc being small markets for Tamil films. Let me put some things in perspective -
Most decent Blockbusters in Malaysia collect between $1.5Mn to $2Mn; which equates to about INR 9 Crores plus approx. (Obviously there are exceptions like Endhiran, Sivaji which are beyond $2Mn);
Similarly, in the US, Kaththi was the first non Rajni/Kamal movie that made it beyond $500k (INR 3 crores); and we know $1Mn in US is an outstanding figure; which equates to about INR 6 Crores. Now I see folks publishing US and Malaysia numbers for all movies ever since I joined the hub; however, we brush aside KL, KA, UK etc stating they are very small markets. Here are some facts and figures to look at and think about :
In Kerala, Kaththi made 10.3 Crores (Thuppaki made 10.7Cr); which is much more or close to the US/Malaysia blockbusters.
Similarly, in KA, Kaththi made 10cr plus business.
In UK, Kaththi was GBP 320k plus; which is almost equal to INR 3 crores.
Kaththi with just a $193k ended up being all time #2 at Aus box office after its entire run. People here are using these smaller centers to show how close the gap is with YA; but want to ignore UK, KL, KA etc because the difference there is much higher.
Vijay has expanded his fan base and market in these regions, so what is wrong in Vijay fans posting these and celebrating his successes there. Why should Vijay fans not post and feel proud….. just because movies of another star cannot collect half of what Vijay movies make there? It is much better to say UK da than saying Mayajaal da.
Box office mojo doesn’t report first weekend numbers for tamil movies like earlier for some reason. However, Kaththi too was quoted to be at 1.7mn MYR (from 32 reported screens) after first weekend; even though it was released in much more screens in the first week. So this issue of uncertainty is there for all hero films, so there is no point in trying to show one actor as being the victim.
And on that point about being in a different league, for once I agree….because Vijay has reached a stage where his movies don’t have to wait for even the first schedule to get over for distributors to queue madly to buy the rights, unlike some others where the rights are not sold even 10 days before release most of the time. This, to me, is a huge testimony to Vijay’s success and star power at the box office.
DAMMY,
This is the classic case of both sides being right. KL,KA,UK are big markets for us and small markets for them.
Malaysia, yeah....
Kaththi it was RM 1,767,970 from reported 32 screens right?
Rentrak, I guess would be tracking the same set of theatres all the time, I guess.
Most of the recent 29 should be part of Kaththi's 32 right?
If that's the case, Kaththi's numbers are all the more impressive.
If Malaysia, UK, KL and Karnataka give a combined difference of 15 crores, that's pretty significant. Especially given that Chennai would always be even-stevens thanks to holy woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Yes, Ajay. Someone was talking about trends here.... I feel the actual trend is even more dangerous : if their favorite actors movies are doing well, put Vijay down in the name of celebration....if the movie isn't doing well, ridicule and blame Vijay. Extremely frustrating to read some silly and kiddish excuses blaming Vijay for "not so good" outcomes, instead of acknowledging the outcome .Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
how u know they get correct figure?? they just give false information regarding screens numbers and BO reportQuote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
How do you know that 'they' give false numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by ALWAR_AJITH
Oh yeah. Rentrak is also giving fake numbers now. Good. :)
simple just watch out how many screens from yest ad ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
same goes for kathi too...Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
good point BM and good counter argument Cedy.
I have only couple of things to point out.
1.Both YA and Kaththi had full capacity crowds on opening 3 or 4 days. If YA released in more screens(520), then how come their collections can be of similar range? Unless Kaththi recorded 100% on all screens and YA recorded 85-90%, they both cannot be equal. I know for a fact that YA was packed for 1st 4 days, so that throws some questionable collection details from BW or Sify. I just smell something fishy with the numbers reported. My guess is Ajith doesn't give any mileage to those websites and they don't pay back, so it is a simple math.
2.People comparing 5th day collection of Kaththi in India Vs YA are completely hopeless. It was a extended diwali weekend and people are bound to visit theatres while 5th day for YA was actual working day(Monday). So before thumping your chest just think for a moment before you do so.
3. For most part IMO collections are comparable. UK, we know the story ... you play HD print in local cable channel and it is bound to affect collections drastically. But I'm not going to debate that VJ has higher presence in UK and definitely in Kerala.
4. In US, Atmus reported 480K, But we also have this website(US based) which shows cummulative figure of $590K (I guess it takes into account Atmus + other distributors).http://moviecitynews.com/2015/02/the...nd-report-124/
See under Cummulative and read the numbers standing 0.59 mil.
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to call YA flop or average is atrocious IMO. BTW nobody knows what transpired for Kaththi after 5th day and suddenly it became 100C in 12th day which took even Jalra pillai by surprise.
I am sure YA is not doing bad. But losing two shows in Sathyam main screen in a week does not look great either. And that too Anegan's shows are not getting filled up in a jiffy.
Cedy and Dammy , As usual you guys rock the floor :clap: :clap:
Alwar Ajith,
I don't know if u r really ignorant or acting like one. Assuming its the first one, let me explain. Rentrak gets data only from few reported screens in Malaysia for some films. Not whole. For Kaththi, they reported for 30 odd screens whereas the screen counts were much much higher. Same for YA too. For movies like 7A and Velayudham, they didn't report at all. It doesn't mean they didn't release in Malaysia
Anegan is a new movie , so it is understandable. If anegan does not do that well, you'll see that YA will immediately take it back. You obviously have new movie from good director+seal able star combo which is bound to have some impact. the same would have happened even if it was I or Kaththi. Correct me if I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie Buff
Freedom,
Completely respect your views! On the 5 day vs 4 day comparison, it is unfortunate but the issue is no one tracks a day to day collection in Malaysia like US or UK. Also, if Kaththi had a 5 day festival release (with Poojai as competition), YA was a 4 day solo and saturated release. And we know the first 2 days never have a problem to fill in for big star movies due to loyal fans.
I don't think anyone is calling YA as a flop (maybe some did, but that always happens from either side when a Vijay or Ajith movie releases). Some websites/trackers (whatever you want to call them) are hinting towards it being an average from a business perspective mainly due to the 30% tax. We will have to wait and see what the exact outcome is. Too early to even say its a blockbuster.
As for the 100cr point on Kaththi, again, I have read this numerous times here....ARM tweeted this, and almost all the so called trackers and industry bigwigs like UTV Dhananjay retweeted. Sri even congratulated ARM. No point discussing this, because either side is never going to come to an agreement here.
I do not think so it would have happened if YA was doing great. So it should be doing good or decently well is what I presume. That is why I also mentioned the tickets for Anegan are not getting filled up quickly.On the other hand I think that the U certificate for Anegan might have tilted the odds in it's favour as I think that the bigger screens are mostly allotted to films that have tax exemption in a scenario when 2 films are expected to do equally well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
IIRC Sathyam main screen retained Kaththi for nearly a month, let alone 2nd weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie Buff
what fairly took me by surprise is how Careless Ayngaran are in UK market if they are the distributors/investors. even in US, I atleast know 7 family friends of mine who didn't go to watch in theatres because Hd print was available and say wat? they all liked the movie. Piracy killed the movie pretty big in US (no comments about UK), otherwise the numbers would have been close because the movie had +ve WOM.
In Florida, Sunday evening there was about 25 People which was not bad, My friend was the one who screened the movie and he has made a sizable profit. some folks claim that the movie is a disaster - Truth is for a non festive Thursday release, the collections are awesome. and some folks who claim Kaththi released in October in Winter - It is still winter here in US for most of February and is colder than October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Just read my post above AB. No point in writing it here again,Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
there is nothing to act as how can assume rentrak give correct info from certain screens only? who gave that data? GSC cinemas? TGV cinemas ? LFS cinemas ? CHATAY cinemas?Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Freedom,Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Good points, buddy.
Regarding the 4th one, here is what ATMUS, the distributors of YA, had to say about Movie cine news
Media Friends, moviecitynews website do not publish actual numbers. Those are estimates only and do not spread that as US BO numbers.
https://twitter.com/ATMUSent/status/491261615887511552
Bimmer, I don't think anyone claimed or called YA as a disaster here...at least for US. Infact SMK (who is a Vijay fan) contributed with his 4 friends and bought YA for his area. He also wrote in YA thread that they made 20% profit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
I think otherwise. This is movie from KV and dhanush is good on his own. So this combination might attract new crowds. So chances of selling more tickets is higher. The same was not the case for Kaththi since people already knew how bad poojai was. There was obviously no other choice. If YA released 1 week after I, they both would have shared screens too. I hope you understand what I meanQuote:
Originally Posted by Movie Buff
Thanks bro. didn't know that. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
Freedom,Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I would agree to you if there is pressure for Anegan tickets. And there is absolutely none. You can try now and get it for any screen in Chennai. I just booked mine. I do not think 'I' would have shared screens with Anegan. In fact I believe Anegan would have never released in a week's time after 'I'. And speaking about non festival opening for YA. Then ideally it should be viewed by lesser people in the opening weekend compared to a festival release and that means more people will be catching up with the film in the second weekend. So I see no reason why YA should not be preferred for bigger screens in the second weekend.
Kind of agree but not 100%. We'll see how Anegan goes, my prediction is if it doesn't do that well, then YA will take it back. But I agree with you on the tax thingy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie Buff
IMO AMR clearly missed it by 1 week. they should have gone for release on Jan29th and it would have been ideal.
Freedom,Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
We need not even wait for the weekend. Just check today's (wednesday) booking status in spicinemas.in. Except for two classes in Sathyam main screen, almost all other screens have tickets. And this is after setting the number of tickets required to 10. It was not the case for Kaththi in its second week. Almost all evening shows were full. You need not believe me. Just check it yourself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
This could be the case in single screens. But in multiplexes they open bookings for a full week and they do not tamper with the schedule in between. And regaining the main screen in the 3rd week would be tough. But if that happens can be rest assured that the movie is indeed going great guns.
your agreement is valid if there are no subsequent biggie release. There was no huge competition for Kaththi until Lingaa came, which gave Kaththi a good 31/2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie Buff
Cool, I usually won't bother doing these things. But point taken!Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
Shankar's 'I' was lurking around all the time. Infact, Aascar went on board proclaiming a Diwali release, even suggesting Kaththi might not affect I. Vijay held fort and delivered.Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
The thing with Kaththi's success is, it did well uniformly throughout and for a significant time frame. You can check any market, it will be in harmony with other markets.
CB No questions on Kaththi's success, I Movie Lurking around and releasing are 2 different things. we laymen would have little idea about movie releases but Aascar and Vijay know the movie release dates. Kaththi if released in Feb would not have been so much of a success IMO. The stage for Kaththi was set and the content delivered the Success.Quote:
Originally Posted by CEDYBLUE
Couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer
I'm glad there is no bickering between immature fans from both sides on this thread (the way it usually ends up!)
good discussion.. learnt so much :clap: