IR music is custom made for movies. Its a total V Sekar type family/comedy/sentiment movie. What do you expect? Boom Boom type song for this? Wait for the movie to come and judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
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IR music is custom made for movies. Its a total V Sekar type family/comedy/sentiment movie. What do you expect? Boom Boom type song for this? Wait for the movie to come and judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
vijayr:
Anithu Vidungal is good in COA. The rest of the songs are real bad.
Someone mentioned that Rajni was interested in IR. To your point, yes Shankar can make his point by providing COA as an example.
Njv:
Whatever we IR fans may say, why produce a below average album if you are not interested? Did IR agree to provide music for hsi own Financial reasons or did he agree to please few of his friends? If so surely I have no say.
However one thing is sure, while the re-recording was going on, TB must have really felt bad for having ditched IR last time. He had to take whaterver IR gave with his mouth tied..
Having said that, I wish Raaja gets the prestigious film. He can prove disbelievers (including me) that he still can produce a successful album for a complete Masala film
Bala
COA - Chidambrathil Oru Appasami. Maestro shows his class
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/t...view/7675.html
IMHO it really doesn't matter if the MD is not IR. Take Chandramukhi.... the songs would have gone unnoticed had it not been for Rajini. When I first heard the songs, it went straight into my trash bin. But after the movie got released, its one of my most listened to album. Thanks to Rajini!!
Now going to Anniyan, the album was a total crap. Shankar deserved a better album. With my ACID I can create an equally better collection. Absolutely no cohesiveness between the lyrics-raga-rhythm. Very predictable rhythm patterns & progressions. Looked as if super glue was used a lot to make things come together. If its HJ, then watch out for some irritating and stupid chorus and predictable rhythms.
The last Rajini album, which I loved every bit was Thalapathi. After that all he has got have been close to crap. He cannot lift the song value every time with his screen presence. Baba was an example of how even Rajini's screen presence could not lift the song(s) popularity.
So bottom line, if given a chance IR would do wonders (as long as he keeps Karthikraja from spoiling the song with his stupid synth arrangements).
PS: Had a chance to see songs from Jhonny last nite. Man that is THE album Rajini should wish, yearn, pray to get from any MD.
"Had a chance to see songs from Jhonny last nite. Man that is THE album Rajini should wish, yearn, pray to get from any MD. "
Jhonny is namba Raaja's ultimate creation!! I watch only Rajini's old movies with IR's music like mullum malarum, 6-60,dharmathin thalaivan,Siva, Veera, Yejaman,dhalapathi, etc... Ilayaraaja is The GREATEST!!
speaking of Jhonny, I thought that was the best music ever by IR, but I watched Nizhalgal and man, this one movie has all the songs released by all the MDs in TFM together. I repeatedly watched the movie just to observe BGM and many MDs including IR himself used the BGM from this movie to create songs where are outstanding. Just an outstanding composition. Anyone has BGM of this movie by any chance?
Balaji,Quote:
Originally Posted by balaji
I completely agree with you that IR should avoid such projects. However COA wasnt a bad album, if not great album. I mentioned last week that its a below average album from IR, but yesterday I watched the trailer and my impression on the songs were totally changed. Just wait till the movie and lets discuss again. Someone else mentioned here that the movie is gonna be a winner, and I have the same feeling.
njv, this site has some bgms but don't have Nizhalgal. sorry!
http://www.ee.duke.edu/~vijay/BGM.html
Doing music for a Rajni movie may be a great deal for us but I am not sure it may be the same thing from IR's perspective. IR has done music for Rajni moves from Bhuvana Oru Kelvikuri (First full song for Rajni) and Bhairavi onwards. I dont know how may Rajni movies IR would have done.
It is like at work - the new group of people may rave at someone who is at senior position or soemone they look up to - but if you had known and worked with them when they were like you and were your peer - I am not sure if you would be as eager (eager may not be the word - may be aspire or wait to be given or called on) as some of the newer kids on the block for the chance to work with or please the person in the senio position.
However, people here mentioned Johny - along with that I hope people listen to albums like Kazhugu, Gharjnai etc. to understand why we rave about IR.
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The problem with YSR's music is not that it is contemporary, it just sucks, period.
Inference: There is a hell lot of suckers in Tamilnadu, :lol: ( no pun intended despite the smilee)Quote:
If you think "kan paesum varthaigal or devathaiyai kandaen (KK) or kadhal valarthaen or the latest Theepidikka are not mass hits, no one can convince you about that.
Another statement :, there is lots of truth in it ( see below).Quote:
They are hits but will never find place in a Rajni movie.
Some more equations
MR+Kamal+IR->Nayagan, phenomenal, a landmark movie, album, fetched the coveted National Award to Kamal
MR+Rajini+IR->Dhalapathi, a much anticipated, hyped movie, great album, definitely not a landmark movie ( the biggest rehash of MR , an extended version of "nayagan")
Shankar+Kamal+ARR-> "Indiyan" The great Anniyan Part 1, a well made movie , definitely not the gretest album by ARR but was above average, and again the third (last) national award to Kamal
Shankar+Rajini+ ? ( and I think probably ARR as many would like and think)-> "Shivaji" ( if that's still the name for this Mother of All Hype movies of Kollywood), will be much more anticipated, hyped
( and it probably deserves), will it fetch the first national award to SS ( I will be happy if it does), if BigB could win a National award for that crap Hindi movie ( forgot the movie name), I don't underestimate BigB's enormous talents but he deserved that award for much better movies done earlier by him.
About YSR,
, very true, in the same lines, the first ARR+Rajini combo "Muthu" was also contemporary too, yet was a big hit and met the required hype despite movie being a average hit, I wonder If YSR todate ever even came close to this , despite giving hit movies one after the other in the last year or so.Quote:
The problem with YSR's music is not that it is contemporary
His 'TappanguthU" songs ( Are these the ones called "Kuthu" songs these days) todate there is no single number despite all his remix circus to meet the "suckers" criteria akin to "Manmadha rasa", "Appadi Podu", "Devuda Devuda" or " Annanodu Pattu", and hence definitely no place in a Rajini movie, be it Shankar's or some one else for that matter.
IR + Shankar ( with or with out Rajini),
with only 9 movies of Shankar he has created such a mass Histeria in TN for catering a movie with extravagance on thin ( repeated ) story lines all along
( barring "Boys", ARR was good in that , and yes probably this movie would have been a better Shankar movie for YSR to have shown any of his proficiency) and with this pattern, it is quite known that his scripts are of different kind ( I am not admiring his scripts) and some what predictable but he he quite comfortably
( most of the times) managed by his way of presentation of the same old stuff, so a IR combination will be a no no both in reality and and in our presumptions unless Shankar makes a " Moonram Pirai" kind of script ( which is not even possible even in dreams) or a " Period movie" ( yes we must be joking) or a movie like ' Indiana Jones series ( it will be great if he does and imagine with SS that would indeed turn out to be landmark movie, again a big big ??)
I have felt many times a second time watching of Shankar's older movies makes me feel how the hell he made all these movies a super duper hits, on the otherhand, a second or third time watching of most of MR's movie makes me yearn to watch once again and feel why the hell people are not too welcoming for his movies considering BO statistics ( except his initial few movies),
Lastly, can somebody compare a shankar kind of movie in preShankar era, I mean a similar way of presentation ( a glorified Masala movie in other words), the only movie I can think of is "Agni Namshatram" which was still a far better movie IMHO compared to many Shankar movies
PS:The biggest thing I have liked with Shankar is his way of Picturisation of songs, again not the recent movies, his first 3 or 4 movie, they were indeed trend setting with out any questions)
IMHO, ARR should be the MD and he will definitely do great than HJ ( what a pathetic score for Anniyan, not that this movie deserved more than this)
Prabhudas