A shame

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

In spite of age-old discrimination- I feel it is genetic, in the male's build-up, male chauvnism- women have been establishing their importance with superiority, authority, dignity & emphasis from within their fortress! Isles of 'little worlds' do make the society at large, don't they? :huh:

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i feel women should work........they get a broader perspective when they work and mingle with ppl. from various walks of life.........though school/college are already serving that purpose, work area is the place where we all mature........so, i think women should be exposed to the work environment where they will learn and get to see lots of events/incidents/characters and most importantly learn how to react to them :D

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why did such a question arise???

why shud somebody think that women shudnt go to work :huh:

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Originally Posted by Devar Magan

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Originally Posted by Lambretta

Oru VEla unga office'la peNgal yArume vaela-ku varAta ungalku scene romba dull-a theriyum-nu varthathoda ibbidi kobapadrenglo? :wink: J/K! :P :D

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athuvum right thaan :lol:

but, nurture panren, guide panren, values solli kodukurenu sollittu penaathunaa, naan chumma irukka maatten..


our PP madam is discouraging the current generation with her posts.. if she cant encourage us, no problem.. if she openly posts her opinion, i have the right to post mine too.. 8-)

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sabai naagareegam-nu onnu irukku! you have failed despicably in that! shame on you! How can you hope to prevent me from 'openly' expressing my views? I can't understand why I shouldn't express them 'openly'! :roll: Who is preventing you from opening a thread and pouring out all your views. Are you aware of how you are making yourself a laughing stock here by your ridiculous & unrefined expressions?

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Originally Posted by MADDY

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

In spite of age-old discrimination- I feel it is genetic, in the male's build-up, male chauvnism- women have been establishing their importance with superiority, authority, dignity & emphasis from within their fortress! Isles of 'little worlds' do make the society at large, don't they? :huh:

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i feel women should work........they get a broader perspective when they work and mingle with ppl. from various walks of life.........though school/college are already serving that purpose, work area is the place where we all mature........so, i think women should be exposed to the work environment where they will learn and get to see lots of events/incidents/characters and most importantly learn how to react to them :D

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What is preventing them from broadening their 'perspective' from home? Can you imagine the precious need of their presence at home for the family- the children, the elders? Is it replaceable? Yesterday my second son had come to visit us with his 3-year old son. I enjoyed feeding him his lunch using all the ploys I can to push down what I wanted to. I recalled all those happy, past years of the childhood of our own 3 children. Does a paid ayah in a creche stick the spoonfuls with the same affection making it enjoyable for both sides? Kids taken care of full time by the mother DEFINITELY are lucky & they grow into happy, balanced adults. It is a mother's prerogative to watch her child grow, blossom. Don't rob her of it. There is extra dimension of brilliance & confidence in such children. Last night we rang to wish our 5-year old grandson(daughter's son) happy birthday, I asked him playfully 'how old are you?' He answered, 'ten thousand years' and started giggling uncontrollably. this joyful creativeness comes to them only in a safely, intimately nirtured environment. Our 5-year-old grandson from Mumbai (first son's son) rang & told my hubby that he has obtained 2 hundreds in abacus. I asked him, 'thumhE thO sow mil gaya?' Our dil interrupted to say he got 100 only but the teacher had marked 100 in 2 places, on each page. She was strictly telling the truth to her son removing his false opinion. I pleaded with her to let him enjoy a harmless joy. But she wouldn't relent! I would have done the same in her place. But now as grandma I have mellowed to wink at such things!!! But I am proud of my dil in her policy. She spends her whole time & energy for the 2 bright kids & my 'kid'!!! In my footsteps! Both my dils & daughters are very intelligent, educated young ladies with a broad perspective and dedicated, happy housewives. Am I wrong in wishing to spread the good message to the womenkind of our world?

>>There is extra dimension of brilliance & confidence in such children.<<

While attention by parents (esp. mom during early months / years) is very important for child's development, this 'extra' brilliance / confidence is, IMO, only wishful thinking:-) There are millions of 'AyA' grown, brilliant, confident and balanced children. There're also millions of children who were "nurtured" by mom to no end that ended up as average people and also not-so-balanced in their lives. These two are strictly not connected, IMO.

It's nice to see your conviction of parental time and attention to children. However, to attribute that tangibly to brilliance etc. and how the child would act in later years is, again IMO, going overboard. A not-so-wise mom can also spoil her children (both in the health perspecitve and discipline perspective). i.e., if the mother herself is not quite brilliant or balanced, whatever nurturing etc is not going to make a great child.

Another thing - moms with jobs do not automatically mean deprived children. I have seen 100's of moms who live close to work place ("staff quarters" etc), who can manage both, with a little help from some old relative who stays home:-)

Looks like arguing for argument's sake! :lol: Being older than you I may have seen even more instances of unelightened mothers who have made their children grow into pucca villains & brutes!!!

What I wish is enlightenment for women, encouraging home environment for children & elders, pampered life in the shade & safety of home for women( already 'gifted' with enough physical discomforts by nature why aggravate it with all that added strain?). AND peace in the lives of men!!! :wink:

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Looks like arguing for argument's sake! :lol: Being older than you I may have seen even more instances of unelightened mothers who have made their children grow into pucca villains & brutes!!!

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And even after all such experience, you say those who are spoon-fed by moms are "extra" brilliant than others who are spoon-fed by chiththi's, pAtti's and 'AyA's :-) Funny!

It was not an intention to 'argue for argument's sake'. Unscientific ideas cannot be accepted, despite noble intentions. That's all!

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Originally Posted by app_engine

if the mother herself is not quite brilliant or balanced, whatever nurturing etc is not going to make a great child.

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True :)

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Kids taken care of full time by the mother DEFINITELY are lucky & they grow into happy, balanced adults. It is a mother's prerogative to watch her child grow, blossom. Don't rob her of it. There is extra dimension of brilliance & confidence in such children.

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ungalOda pala karuththukkal indha generationaala(me too) yEththukka mudiyalanaalum.... idha yaaraalum marukka mudiyaadhu.... :D

chithis, paattis come under my scheme as occassional substitutes for the mothers but not paid ayahs!

mmm..'unscientific'? Well, there are many things in life that just happen-good & bad- which can never have 'scientific' explanation!!! I am for intellectualism, yet I believe strongly in intuitive approach also.