RAAJA'S SONGS & BGMS REUSED IN CURRENT MOVIES

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13th July 2009, 07:27 PM
rajasaranam

RAAJA'S SONGS & BGMS REUSED IN CURRENT MOVIES

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Originally Posted by app_engine

http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajra...mine-a-double/

B Rangan once again talks about the phenomenon of using IR songs in current movies :-)

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YOU DON’T NEED TO KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN to see that Vasanth’s new telefilm – Visaranai Commission, shaped for Doordarshan and sourced from Sa Kandasamy’s Sahitya Akademi award-winning novel – is rooted in the senses and the sensibilities of The New Tamil Cinema. You just need your ears. You just need to listen to the soundtrack spilling over with Kannan oru kaikuzhandhai and Ponmaalai pozhudhu and Ennadi Meenatchi and En vaanile ore vennila. What is it about Ilayaraja’s glorious early period that today’s filmmakers seek to recapture in their works? Is it just a whiff of a particular time – and if that is all, why not sneak in the occasional chartbuster by Shankar-Ganesh or T Rajendar or even Chandrabose? Or is the connection more personal, a declaration that this is the music these filmmakers were weaned on, this is the music that became milestones along the way to where they are today?

That, thankfully, is not the only way Visaranai Commission slots itself alongside the likes of Subramaniyapuram and Pasanga.

Right from early 2000's Iam Observing this phenomenon of Using Raaja's songs to add an effect (or) to rekindle the memories (or) to add a comical effect. It has just gone to an extent today that every film has atleat one Raaja song along the lines of reason mentioned herein.
I Was watching 'Nadodigal' Yesterday and saw the song 'Antha Vanathai pola manam padaicha' used in a comical scene and started off with a discussion wherein who started this trend for comical effect? I didnt remember then But said, It Should be Raaja, as I vaguely remembered some Goundamani scenes with Raaja's own earlier hits... Here is one which came to my mind now - The classic Goundamani,Senthil & Vadivelu Scene from Raajakumaran. :lol: Using 'Raasathi unnai kaanatha nenju'. :) Lets start discussing this trend and try to recollect Where else Raaja has redone his own songs to add an effect in BGM.
13th July 2009, 08:08 PM
rajasaranam

May be I have overlooked and there could be earlier composers who has done the same, If so please enlighten me :)
13th July 2009, 08:48 PM
app_engine

One of the early instances that I remember is from 'AN pAvam' where Revathy plays dumb-charade and when she tries to communicate director or BR, IR plays the tune of one of their earlier songs :-)

However this was not a case of playing the 'actual song itself' (like in thenAvettu, for e.g.) but an instrumental of an old song.

Kind of playful act by him :-)

That was much different from what many MD's do at present (may be at the insistence of directors). Whenever they want to get a "real feel" for a scene, grab an IR song , play it and the job is done. (siRu pon maNi asaiyum in Subramanyapuram, for e.g.)

Interestingly, even Shankar tried to make use of this technique in Shivaji. However, because it's an ARR film, possibly they didn't want to acknowledge IR as the "best-in-class" for erotic songs and so included KVM / MSV also and made it out as a comparison drama :-)
13th July 2009, 09:34 PM
crajkumar_be

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Originally Posted by app_engine

Interestingly, even Shankar tried to make use of this technique in Shivaji. However, because it's an ARR film, possibly they didn't want to acknowledge IR as the "best-in-class" for erotic songs and so included KVM / MSV also and made it out as a comparison drama :-)

Baffling as usual :shock:

They wanted a comparison drama - MGR/NT/KH The choice of songs/music director follows that, not the other way round.
13th July 2009, 09:39 PM
Plum

I think I'd go with CR on this - the whole thingie was based on getting in Sivaji, MGR into the mix.
In Telugu, it was ANR and NTR and Chiru, so obviously IR wasnt in the picture there also, though they could have used the beautiful Daasthe Daagedha from Yugandhar for NTR. Then again, it was musically a flop there(as in only hardcore fans of music know about it - NTR fans wont remember it much) so not much sense in doing that.
13th July 2009, 09:58 PM
app_engine

CR, Plum

What you're seeing is pretty obvious, even a child can see:-)

I'm trying to unearth if there were some discussions underneath, i.e. reg. choice of songs. (Telugu doesn't count here as that's not the original and more reputations at stake for all concerned in TN and not in Tolly, IMO).

Either way, it's another case of "using an old IR song" to get some mileage genre, prime topic of discussion in this thread :-)
14th July 2009, 01:34 PM
Punnaimaran

In the film "Raja kaiyya Vachcha", the song starting with the same words was used as an instrumental at the end of the film.
14th July 2009, 07:59 PM
MADDY

was watching a mediocre hindi movie - saans bahu aur sensex - they play "ram bam bam aarambam" from MMKR song to show a tamil couple dancing.......they play the full song - though the scene reeks racism - it felt kinda good that they acknowledge the glorious 80's and 90's of tamil music in some way.....

app_engine - thalaivar has no qualms in having raaja songs in his movie......watch duet - they would have used raaja songs in couple of places.....theva illama vambu pannadhinga......
14th July 2009, 07:59 PM
MADDY

was watching a mediocre hindi movie - saans bahu aur sensex - they play "ram bam bam aarambam" from MMKR song to show a tamil couple dancing.......they play the full song - though the scene reeks racism - it felt kinda good that they acknowledge the glorious 80's and 90's of tamil music in some way.....

app_engine - thalaivar has no qualms in having raaja songs in his movie......watch duet - they would have used raaja songs in couple of places.....theva illama vambu pannadhinga......
22nd July 2009, 06:00 PM
raajarasigan

Vaaranam Aayiram Title card has the following Guitar songs of IR..

Uravugal Thodarkadhai (Aval appadithan)
Kodai Kaala Kaatre (Panneer Pushpangal) (my all time favourite) :)

Also, in one of the scenes.. Suriya was singing 'En Iniya pon nilave' playing Guitar Chords of the same..

GM would have wanted some famous 80's songs as the film started progressing from the year 1980....

No doubt he is an HCIRF..... even when Suriya narrates his love to SR, "manasukkulle IR paatta ketta maadhiri irundhadhu"... :D
22nd July 2009, 06:15 PM
app_engine

uRavukaL thodarkadhai - kOdai kAlakkAtRE - en iniya pon nilAvE

hmmm...

Looks like GM has a great grip (or has a brilliant assistant who has an exact grip) on the taste of a musically savvy "student" of 70's in TN!
22nd July 2009, 09:31 PM
irir123

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Originally Posted by MADDY

was watching a mediocre hindi movie - saans bahu aur sensex - they play "ram bam bam aarambam" from MMKR song to show a tamil couple dancing.......they play the full song - though the scene reeks racism

perhaps they were acknowledging the song genuinely!

even then, i doubt if they would have understood the context in which the song is placed in MMKR - Kamal's deliberate use of a zapata hat / moustache et al, and his expressions bring out the parody-like humor - am sure they wud have missed the whole point of it!